Rolling Metal Thread 2010

I dunno about that, sometimes they like something because it sounds exactly like they did 10 years ago. Who wants rehashed stuff over & over. Smithy I thought you would prefer the Darkthrone way of doing things.

they rarely if ever rep hard for anything that's not great. they'll say "it's ok" about template-adhering things but I'll take a troo-dude's list of all-timers over anybody else's - it is bound to be chock full of albums that don't have a weak track on 'em. Herman I'd guess you would have a chip on your shoulders about these guys because like they wish you were not listening to the stuff they like and are vocal about it and that's the sort of thing that really sticks in yr craw n'est-pas

"anything that doesn't rule is garbage." isn't their stance. The quality of the music doesn't even come into it most of the time. It's more a case of "only 500 people are into these guys and they dont do interviews and they hate the mainstream". Nothing to do with the quality of music, its hardly ever mentioned, they always talk about everything but the music!

I dont have a chip on my shoulder though. I dont really care what they think, its just fun to talk about on the internet. I couldnt care less if they approve of me listening or not, im pretty sure that would be the same case for any other genre of music "oh he likes *insert genre* hes not one of us" I never worried about that shit when i was younger and at 37 I certainly dont now! I do like to slag off hipsters into the xx though, that is true :)

"anything that doesn't rule is garbage." isn't their stance. The quality of the music doesn't even come into it most of the time. It's more a case of "only 500 people are into these guys and they dont do interviews and they hate the mainstream". Nothing to do with the quality of music, its hardly ever mentioned, they always talk about everything but the music!

none of this is true

like "they're only into it 'cause it's obscure," c'mon dude, that is always a bullshit accusation to level - you can't prove it at all, it's just a way of dismissing somebody's opinion

this is the last I'll say about it I got other shit to do but the troo dudes tend to have superlative taste in my experience whereas people without those somewhat ridiculous self-imposed boundaries end up repping for really dull watered-down prog trash so gimme a troo dude's playlist over anybody else's, the end

isn't pfunk talking about dffd posters and smitty talking about people he actually knows??

im talking about people i know too

half of dffd are more into talking about aphex twin than metal

Any of you guys heard this?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_W8BxmcUmLgc/S_s6dHJUTcI/AAAAAAAAFzU/YJtROeWZnG8/s200/Cleric-Regressions-CD.jpg

Cleric - Regressions
A four piece from Philadelphia, Cleric's music mixes elements of grindcore, avant garde composition, doom and... something else entirely? Influenced by other metal pioneers such as Meshuggah, Converge, Fantômas, and Neurosis, their music zeroes in on a level of brutality and experimentation that a single band rarely maintains even for a few seconds.

http://www.last.fm/music/Cleric

I got it in the mail but have been too busy to listen to it.

would be curious about how that album goes down with you but I'm not too into the track on their myspace. decent dep/fantomas/naked city kitchen sink metal. not bad but vaguely irritating and the different styles don't really gel.

alan, check your fry up yahoomail

will do.

Checking out Hyponic now

Just Google'd dffd, came across a board called D00m For3v3r For3v3r D00m3d? is that what y'all were talking about earlier? Haven't been looking too deep into metal stuff for long enough to know what that is.

yes

Is it a place for metal purists or something? I still have no idea what tr00 means, tbh. O_O

i don't really know what it is but i know pfunk is fond of citing it in these kinds of discussions.

tr00, i mean someone can prob explain it better than i can, but basically w/metal there's still a kind of partisan you're in or you're out mentality that is used in opposition to those of us who like metal but also like lots of other music and only wear black tshirts 40% of the time.

that's helpful, cad. thanks dude

i am here 4 u

hahahaha :-)

Please note: if you are female, only wear black tshirts 15% of the time and like lots of other music, you should ask a god or three for mercy on your soul.

I only wear a black T-shirt 80% of the time. The other 20% I wear the blood of unbaptized babies.

The Tr00 guys are the ones that say that even though I've been in a metal band for 13 years and work on metal tours and shows and festivals and writing 70+ hours/week, I'm actually an indie nerd posing as a metal head. As far as I can tell, the only way for me to be Tr00 would be to bathe less often and drink WAY more beer.

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Anyway, I got a screener copy of Sam Dunn's new Rush documentary last night. It's his best film to date.

I am neither troo nor kvlt but I got more love for the troo kvlt dudes than most - their position is more interesting than "it's all good" imo, you gotta have a garde to have an avant-garde

loooooooool Nate :-D

my position is that every degree of divergence from what Tapes n' Tapes's perfected w/ "The Insistor" is a grave misstep deserving of twice the amount of derision extant in the universe in which we find ourselves

you don't actually like that band

no one actually likes that band

that song & "Hang Them All" or whatever is not that bad, but i don't really listen to them

that being said, they do name drop Harvard Square so

this thread is a haven from that stuff dude

asking you nicely

sorry, will oblige

I was really excited about the new Nightbringer, after liking Death and the Black Work quite a bit. On first listen today, though, it seemed a bit strained. Hoping to warm to it.

Hit Kathaarsys again on my Shuffle while on a run tonight. Really, really, really liking this band, super especially Verses in Vain.

D00m For3v3r For3v3r D00m3d is what was the Southern Lord messsageboard. Greg got fed up with them talking sh!t about Southern Lord & its practices, so shut the SL forum down & everyone decamped to there. I'd actually say it wasn't that troo or kvlt overall as people seem pretty open to Noise, Krautrock & all sorts of other stuff.

i remember hearing some part of that story somewhere! thanks for explaining all that

Most people are openminded and discuss anything, but there are a few posters who hate that kind of thing and call everyone nigels.
Wandering Boy Poet, who are you on there?

EXODUS! EXHIBIT B! YES!

i'm increasingly really interested in black metal -- bought the new Castevet on Tuesday, and Ludicra's "Stagnant Pond" is so good that I just keep playing it over and over

thinking of picking up that Krallice record ppl liked that came out last year

also looking forward to reading this -- http://bit.ly/bp47og -- soon, which is, in part, about black metal

whoa, attention glenn m., I'm listening to the new one by diabulus in musica - secrets - it's power metal in the Nightwish/Epica tradition: woman singing operatic, dude singin' Gothenburg death interjections, riffs for days, choral backups...strings! this is pretty hot, to tell you the truth

xpost oh you just posted that to get a rise out of me

Dominic Fox is a writer, poet and musician working in London as a software engineer. Widely active in the online cultural theory scene, he is best known for his weblog, "Poetix", which presents and eclectic mixture of philosophy, cultural criticism and modernist poetry. He has written for The Wire magazine, and his poetry has appeared in various small journals including the literary arts e-zine "Masthead". He grew up in Ross-on-Wye, was educated at Lincoln College, Oxford, and now lives in Northampton with his family. He performs and records shoegazing folk-rock as "w/trem", and blackened experimental metal as "Spiral Jacobs".

ksh get the first krallice record not the second imo

hahaha aerosmith, why does that get a rise out of you? (really going to read that book, btw)

cad, thanks dude -- i'll look into both

He performs and records shoegazing folk-rock as "w/trem", and blackened experimental metal as "Spiral Jacobs".

Like I'll bet this guy is a completely solid dude with a lot of interesting ideas and the ability to make interesting connections in a really provocative way and all but the further we keep the shoegazing folk-rock from the black metal the happier I'll be & the further we keep the "blackened experimental metal" in carefully monitored containment the better it'll be for all concerned

that, + scholarly tomes on black metal are basically a recipe for annoying dudes like me

i'm increasingly really interested in black metal -- bought the new Castevet on Tuesday, and Ludicra's "Stagnant Pond" is so good that I just keep playing it over and over

thinking of picking up that Krallice record ppl liked that came out last year

I ordered the Castevet too. get both Krallice albums.

don't get either krallice record

sorry, couldn't help myself

lol.

so, I went to a gorguts show last night. ruled. and they played new stuff.

new stuff was not unlike from wisdom to hate but.... maybe with even twistier writing and more in the way of dynamics. some "clean" parts even!