this album always reminds me of living in a dorm, staying up late working on paintings
― hobbes, Friday, 21 May 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link
BASSBIT
― original bgm, Monday, 24 May 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
The long Kate post up thread is awesome, ILM all-time.
― Davek (davek_00), Monday, 24 May 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Alan N - I always heard that as "decent bit"
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 24 May 2010 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link
definitely could be wrong on that one. but cool track.
so, I listened last night and was a little taken back by how abrasive some of this album is. and after all these years, I'm still not sure how I feel about this one.
― original bgm, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
and admittedly i most often listen to a single-disc redux of favorites i made if i put it on these days...
same here.
― original bgm, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
a playlist of the ambient/interlude/piano tracks off this makes a pretty good bootleg SAWIII
― don cab for cutie (Future_Perfect), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
The *intricacy* of the drum programming on the "drill and bass" bits just blows me away every time.
After living with it for a few weeks, I cannot believe I ever disliked this album. It's just a digital orgasm, from end to end.
― Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't listened to this album in like 5 years. I will revisit it today.
― limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd forgotten about this little gem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ZGIrNf71Q
― don cab for cutie (Future_Perfect), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Can someone please tell me what shoegaze choon it is that Jynweythek Ylow so reminds me? It's driving me nuts. Kept thinking it was a Pale Saints song but it wasn't that.
― Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
im listening to some record called "canaxis 5" by Technical Space Composer's Crew from 1969 and theres a bonus track titled "Cruise"
the intro appears to be what Aphex Twin sampled for the intro of "Afx237 v7" AKA the sound used for when Rubber Johnny opens his mouth and makes a weird noise... although it might just sound like it and not be a sample at all...
― billstevejim, Saturday, 1 September 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
Can someone please tell me what shoegaze choon it is that Jynweythek Ylow so reminds me? It's driving me nuts. Kept thinking it was a Pale Saints song but it wasn't that.― Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:41 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:41 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I have FINALLY worked it out. Not Pale Saints but Boo Radleys.
The melody on Jynnweythek Ilow is a lot like the melody on the verse of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctN2-aHz12A
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 1 September 2012 08:23 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, I love that Boos track but would never have made the connection. Don't tell Tuomas or he'll start talking litigation! (Actually a pretty good example of how the importance of melody in pop is often overstated, imo.)
― ledge, Saturday, 1 September 2012 08:33 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's just that both AFX and the Boos had a thing for those kind of jaunty, wistful ("Celtic"?) melodies. Melody is pretty much the least important thing in terms of music, it's much more about arrangement, atmosphere, everything else. Because my brain has for years been making the jump between those two songs whenever I hear one, it goes to the other, but the actual tracks really are nothing alike.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 1 September 2012 09:08 (eleven years ago) link
the first dozen or so posts on this thread are something
― thomp, Saturday, 1 September 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link
Haha, I never heard that boos/Aphex connection and they're two of my favourite acts in the history of music!
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Saturday, 1 September 2012 11:12 (eleven years ago) link
For what it's worth, I'm always tempted to do a 'Richard's Mum' harmony whenever anyone gets sung'Happy Birthday'.
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Saturday, 1 September 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link
this album rules
― fresh (crüt), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
meltphace 6
― am0n, Thursday, 19 December 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
http://www.blackmailmag.com/images/MUSICA/drukqs-longvinyl.jpg
― ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ (am0n), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
Absolute masterpiece. His finest work.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Friday, 7 April 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
Vordhosbn is great. The beats scurry and dovetail frantically from the melody in a wonderful way.
― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 7 April 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
It seems less like a random assortment of sounds, and more like a carefully crafted collage of a self portrait.― The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom)
― The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom)
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 8 April 2017 07:08 (seven years ago) link
Rushup Edge sounds excellent on a nice system, or in the car. I played that thing on repeat 2-3 times over, while driving aimlessly around coastal North Carolina. I live in the desert and don't have a car, but that album surely bangs. There's an unusual pliancy (or playfulness) to it, for a typically rigid and computerized style of music. Not to mention all of the juicy sounds.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 8 April 2017 07:26 (seven years ago) link
"Wilco. Jeff Tweedy's songwriting is so good that I want him to make it work in every conceivable genre."
hahahaha
― calstars, Saturday, 8 April 2017 10:21 (seven years ago) link
definitely a gunner, some might say a "tryhard".. that Tweedy
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 8 April 2017 14:11 (seven years ago) link
I guess people get different things out of Aphex Twin. Some are more interested in the gimmicks, and that's fine - and for people who are interested in gimmicks above musical content, then I can see why one would be attracted to Aphex Twin's stuff from 1995-1996. This is not to say that that stuff lacks musical content, but for those that are interested in the important stuff: sound design, production, musical content, the compositions themselves and the way the layered parts interact with each other, then Drukqs is his pinnacle, IMO.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Saturday, 8 April 2017 14:39 (seven years ago) link
Lowell, always enjoy your posts
― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Saturday, 8 April 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link
the thing is, turrican, i like afx for his melodies and for the sound/texture of his early-mid 90s stuff. i don't care about gimmicks and don't see how gimmicks play into his strongest work.
― a but (brimstead), Saturday, 8 April 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link
i love acid
― clouds, Saturday, 8 April 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link
Turrican's post only makes sense in bizarro world
― The Jams Manager (1992, Brickster) (El Tomboto), Sunday, 9 April 2017 00:40 (seven years ago) link
xx-post:
Well, you're definitely correct that gimmicks don't play into his strongest work.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Sunday, 9 April 2017 01:15 (seven years ago) link
wtf is musical content?
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Sunday, 9 April 2017 12:14 (seven years ago) link
Drukqs is also my favorite Aphex album. Such a good headphone album.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Sunday, 9 April 2017 12:22 (seven years ago) link
wtf is musical content?― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Sunday, April 9, 2017 12:14 PM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Sunday, April 9, 2017 12:14 PM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You're fucking kidding me, right? It's actually legitimately blown my mind that someone on these forums (of all forums) has felt the need to actually ask this question.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Sunday, 9 April 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link
Moka OTM re:Drukqs being a great headphones album, particularly the more frantic beat-driven stuff on the record. I love putting this album on headphones and just paying attention to the way all the parts interact and play off of each other, each part sounding utterly gorgeous in terms of sound design. The acoustic stuff is very well recorded, too.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Sunday, 9 April 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link
agree w dog latin, "musical content" is a meaningless term
― the late great, Sunday, 9 April 2017 21:45 (seven years ago) link
https://www.zsoltbatori.com/the-ineffability-of-musical-content
― Raul Chamgerlain (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 April 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link
RDJ album is really vibrant/immediate-sounding, compared to Drukqs.. don't know it inside/out yet, but tracks like Peek (track 3) have a hot signal quality, percussion elements nearly distorted, that liquid synth is gorgeous.. it's HOT. a lot of it pops off with super vibrancy, blatant, snappy elasticity, no doubt. Carn Marth is another beaut.. obv. can't speak on it well, I just can't acknowledge the argument that Drukqs is retreading territory, cuz it's undoubtedly more developed and refined.
https://mikeparadinas.bandcamp.com/album/aberystwyth-marine -- this was released last year, but written/recorded in the late 90s. it def bears similarities to the RDJ album
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 02:54 (seven years ago) link
RDJ Album is so clean-sounding, it nearly borders on clinical but somehow it works. I remember reading a thing years ago where he said something like 'I don't like music where you can't hear all the sounds', and that's stuck with me a lot. To this day when I'm listening to (and making) music, I tend to favour stuff that has a great level of detail but nevertheless sounds uncluttered and non-muddy. That sounds kind of obvious but it's one of the reasons I got fed up with so much US indie stuff by the late-00's - stuff like Grizzly Bear and Deerhunter. Everything was just smooshed in all this reverb with all the sounds blurring into each other. There's a fair bit of bass-driven dance music from the d'n'b and dubstep camps that bothers me in this way too.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 08:27 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, but then again I one-time did a mix of our band's latest works-in-progress, and our rhythm guitarist gave me grief because he couldn't hear his guitaring, specifically. I did say "hey, you would definitely notice it if it wasn't there" but that's the thing. I remember Martin Hannett of all people remarking that a demo has all the instruments separated out in the stereo picture, and a 'production' has the sounds combined.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link
(he wasn't there in person, I read what he said in an article)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 12:57 (seven years ago) link
oh yeah, there's definitely an extreme thing where the sounds don't sit in the mix together very well and just kind of glide over each other. And often you get nice artefacts and interactions between two sounds working together. But I still don't like it as much when things get all watery and indistinct for no reason. Certain aesthetics - e.g. shoegaze - rely heavily on this, and i'll often give music like that a free pass because THAT'S THE IDEA; still even with shoegaze I don't like a big mush like a bunch of Play-Doh ball that've been mixed together.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 13:12 (seven years ago) link
imo, interactions between sounds "working together" tend to work much better when the sounds are recorded together, simultaneously, in the same room. that way you're capturing the actual acoustic phenomena that's taking place. sounds placed together in a mix might compliment one other, but they're not actually interacting on a raw, physical level.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link
In electronic music, different parts can be deliberately composed to interact with each other, through choice of notes or choice of sound.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
same with any type of music
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
or, if you're talking about something like a MIDI-controlled network, where multiple pieces of hardware interacting with each other (running simultaneously, interconnected) on the same 'clock', it becomes very interesting.. is that what you're getting at?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
*are interacting with each other
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Ah, no... I'm more talking about the way that electronic music can be programmed up note-by-note means that there's more scope to become more intricate with interacting parts in a composition, and this is what I love about RDJ's music, particularly on the more drill'n'bass tracks on Drukqs ... each composition is so intricately put together and thoughtfully worked out.
I do see what you mean though, if you place a bunch of musicians together in a room and have them play a piece, the end result can have a natural spark to it that would be lacking if everything was tracked separately. Programming up parts and working on sound design leads to pieces with a different kind of interaction to them.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link