I'm not sure I entirely buy the South Park explanation for this inevitability (human nature to prop up a young woman and then destroy her, like some sacrificial rite), because it seems like Britney created the template here. I don't know of a pre-Britney example of this.
Arguably*, this is what happened to Marilyn Monroe.
*massively, contentiously arguable, I know
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
wow are the posters like in ITALIAN and everything?
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
He's in Rome so they're probably in Urdu.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Still my favorite single of 2008 (thanks in part to Colette, who tipped me off to its brilliance). This is probably my favorite thing I've read about it.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Album is out. Opinions?
― Mordy, Sunday, 27 July 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link
From Rolling Country:
Miley album's now leaked, and the one track on it that feels country to me is "These Four Walls," though I can't say why I feel it's country. Reminds me a bit of Tiffany's "Could've Been," which I always thought could've been covered by a country singer (in fact was, by Carrie Underwood on American Idol) - anyway, the sort of pop ballad that a passionate country belle would sing.
Only four songs on the album stand out for me so far: this one and "Fly On The Wall" and "Full Circle" (the blaring pop rock she tended to do as Hannah Montana), and "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun," which is blarey too, with some girl groupishness in the background. I like the noncuteness of her voice; the album is consistently OK; I'm disappointed there aren't more great songs. Don't think I like anything as much as my four faves from Meet Miley Cyrus: "See You Again," "GNO (Girls Night Out)," "Start All Over," and "East Northumberland High."
Some memorable lyrics to "Wake Up America." They're not good - just Save The Earth platitudes - but one line made me perk up: "I know that you don't want to hear it/Especially coming from someone so young," which reminds me of Dylan's "How much do I know/To talk out of turn/You might say that I'm young/You might say I'm unlearned." But Miley doesn't then follow with, "But there's one thing I know/Though I'm younger than you/That even Jesus would never/Forgive what you do."
-- Frank Kogan, Sunday, July 20, 2008 1:26 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link
Turns out that the Miley somewhat countryish (and good) track "These Four Walls" that I mentioned upthread is a cover of Cheyenne Kimball's "Four Walls" (first up on Cheyenne's MySpace), though Miley's "Full Circle" is not a cover of Cheyenne Kimball's "Full Circle." But Miley's "Full Circle" was co-written with Scott Cutler and Anne Preven, who co-wrote Cheyenne's "Four Walls," so everything comes full circle.
(And the other songs on Cheyenne's MySpace are even better, though further from country and folk; maybe I need to go back and get that old Cheyenne album.)
-- Frank Kogan, Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:36 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Link
Playing Miley today; definitely like a few tracks. Not sure if I love any. (Beyond "See You Again," if that counts.) Frank was wondering what old song "Fly on the Wall" sounded like; can't think of anything, overall, though there's a little synth part that reminds me of "Tainted Love" in there a couple times (popular in teen-pop ever since Rihanna revived it.)
-- xhuxk, Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:31 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Link
I'm not loving much on the Miley album. I guess "Four Walls" is my non-"See You Again" favorite, then probably "Fly On The Wall" and "Simple Song." (And "See You Again" is better in its non-remixed version, which isn't on this album.)
-- xhuxk, Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
― xhuxk, Monday, 28 July 2008 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link
I haven't heard much of the new album yet, but what I've heard hasn't impressed me. I think "7 Things" is pretty horrible. I love that Miley's a teen star whose voice isn't at all nymphet-like. I think she's pushing this as an adult album a bit too hard--she did an interview intimating that she has listeners in their '30s and '40s, which outside of this forum, I pretty much doubt. She is still so young; she doesn't have to rush so much to grow up--except for the fact that in reality she's not a kid in any way. She seems really tired and not so charming in interviews lately. Previous faves:
Hannah Montana: Nobody's Perfect, Rock Star, You and Me Together.
Miley Cyrus: Start All Over, See You Again (of course), As I Am.
― Virginia Plain, Monday, 28 July 2008 04:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I definitely don't hear this as an adult album. And I thought the Aly & AJ album had appeal to adults (and when I listened to it, I listened to it as music that I enjoy). But when I listen to the Miley album, I feel very conscious that she is a child writing for other children. There's nothing really sophisticated about her lyrics (or even potentially sophisticated).
― Mordy, Monday, 28 July 2008 04:38 (sixteen years ago) link
i figure anyone who will open up this thread cares enough about jonas brothers
here is their new single "burnin up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScXLHgPcZuc
which i really like a lot. super slickly produced and reminds me like maroon 5 (though not as good). if they played stuff like this on rock radio id listen to rock radio, it reminds me of blink-182 era stuff that i loved in terms of production mostly (also it has a great hook!)
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 August 2008 07:05 (sixteen years ago) link
didn't you hate them like a week ago
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 07:06 (sixteen years ago) link
i was probably challopsing and/or letting my teenage-like immediate resentment of radio disney stuff creep in
this is the first song ive ever heard by them
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 August 2008 07:11 (sixteen years ago) link
teenage-like immediate resentment of radio disney stuff
16 year old indie teen and not 13 year old girl teen
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 August 2008 07:13 (sixteen years ago) link
"pushin me away" on the other hand sounds like some really turgid sub-metro station stuff to me
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 August 2008 07:24 (sixteen years ago) link
btw what the fuck
at the rap in the middle of "burnin up"? maybe its only the video version?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 August 2008 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link
My initial impression is A Little Bit Longer isn't as good as Jonas Brothers. The guitars are souped up a bit more but the songs aren't as good. Chris Lord-Alge is on hand again for the mix and he's been doing these kinds of records for years. Makes 'em all sound the same -- great right out of the box. But they fall down when the mix is the only thing holding up the tunes.
"Got Me Going Crazy" has a great fuzz-toned garage-rock style verse. Over and out in two and half a minutes, it's the Jonas Brothers or their producer having 'em mimic the Music Machine or Count 5, or someone's idea of the latter.
"BB Good" has big crunch chords. Reminded me briefly of BTO-style rock with kids instead of big fat men on vocals. "Burnin' Up" is distant the play list. Dumb and pointless rap stuck into the end. "Shelf" -- chugga-chugga palm-muted guitar pop isn't bad because Jonas Brothers aren't as pitiful as the slew of poverty-case festival emo bands (I went through a couple of years go for xhuxk) doing this kind of stuff.
"Lovebug" has dumbass ska at the beginning. "Video Girl" -- annoying in a minor way but not enough to make you hit eject. "Pushin' Me Away" -- skip. "Sorry" -- Cheap Trick and a lot of other bands have done a lot of this type of thing on their last couple albums. Def Leppard, on their new one for example, which isn't any good. "Sorry" is a bit better, somewhere closer to Cheap Trick.
Nothing on the new album seems as as good as "That's Just the Way We Roll," "Year 3000," the duet the Miley Cyrus and the remake of "Kids in America" as "Kids of the Future" or whatever.
But there are at least three keepers on it.
I dragged out some Chris Lord-Alge produced stuff in this vein, plats that never made it. And they're functionally indistinguishable. In fact, I'd dig for The Donnas' Spend the Night from a few years back used. It's on Atlantic, does the same style except with more lascivious lyrics pointed the other way. And the songs and attack smoke the Jonas Brothers.
― Gorge, Saturday, 16 August 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
at the rap in the middle of "burnin up"?
it's by their bodyguard Big Rob, who is not the bodyguard guy on Rob & Big, but was Britney Spears' old bodyguard. don't ask me why i know this. or why he's on their song.
― some dude, Saturday, 16 August 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link
ya it seriously gave me some like, aaron carter flashbacks or something
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 August 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/hahaxxno/Cyd%20and%20Happiness/hannahmontanners.png
― yungblut, Thursday, 22 January 2009 05:12 (fifteen years ago) link
a fine sentiment well expressed a controversial thrust effectively delivereda piece of shrewd common sense simply and plainly set out
― yungblut, Thursday, 22 January 2009 05:13 (fifteen years ago) link
That's pretty gross.
I'm just glad my Dad only showed a passing interest in "Blossom".
― energy, Thursday, 22 January 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00724/Miley_Cyrus_724884a.jpg
― James Mitchell, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I wonder what they were think... no, I s'pose they don't think much.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 6 February 2009 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link
lol actual Asian guy. "Can you BELIEVE this shit?"
― Nebuchadnezzar Strychnine (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
The new single, "Party in the U.S.A." is like so many songs rolled into one.
― Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
even rolled some pole dancing into it
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20090810/293.cyrus.miley2.081009.jpg
― Sarahel Syndrome (carne asada), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link
New single. This is absolutely fucking BRILLIANT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkX-xrhmF2g
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 24 September 2009 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link
My favourite part of this song is "I'm nodding my head like 'Yeah....', I'm moving my hips like 'Yeah....'"
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 September 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I think my favourite part is ALL OF IT. Just listened five times on the trot.
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 24 September 2009 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Plus, it's already a parlour game in my head to replace Jay-Z/Britney with someone else: "And a Megadeth song was on, and an ATR song was on..."
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 24 September 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow! Really quite good. Pleasant surprise of the day.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 24 September 2009 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i keep almost liking this song and then that "yeah" before she sings the title is so shrill and horiffic it makes me hate the whole thing
― alship journey to papa (some dude), Thursday, 24 September 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
O my, she's a saucy one.
― mo radalj, Thursday, 24 September 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
It's . . . okay. The best part are the lyric's sly reference to other pop-culture artists and their songs, but it's not enough to save an otherwise unremarkable, merely competent song.
To be fair, I'm more of a noncommercial rock fan than a pop fan. But I do like a lot of pop.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 September 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i hate how she says "tummy"
― iirc flair (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 September 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
this is the kind of song that only gets improved by mass pop culture ubiquity, but if it doesn't get there i'll happily forget about it
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 September 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
The inevitable Biggie Smalls mash-up that swept the internet off its feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENYsanXR0pQ
― Cunga, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Got her new song stuck in my head.
― bamcquern, Monday, 2 November 2009 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link
It has very little to do with parties, though, if you asked me.
― bamcquern, Monday, 2 November 2009 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link
we need more parties in the U.S.A.
― Mark, Monday, 2 November 2009 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Pa-pa-pa-pa lupe loop.
― bamcquern, Monday, 2 November 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Haang on Sloopy, Sloopy, hang on.
― bamcquern, Monday, 2 November 2009 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link
We need something.
If I think Miley Cyrus is hot, does that make me a pedophile?
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#State_laws
It looks like you're legally free to make a move anywhere except Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, or Wyoming.Good luck, Snrub.Go get 'er, Snrub. I think she's kind of a dog.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 27 November 2009 11:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Last night I was in charge of my 12 yr old cousins birthday party/sleep over with 14 of his friends. At one point he asked me to play some music. They asked me if I have Party in The USA, so I let them play music of my itunes and they played this song on repeat endlessly through the night. Today it's all I've been singing.
― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
community party in the usa was a big hit in the fifties for skeeter davis iirc
― Cunga, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
communist*
oh well
― Cunga, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
don't get the appeal of that song (or of most miley cyrus' songs, tbh)
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 19 January 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Is this real?
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/d0dd0f8d2f/miley-cyrus-today-show-fail
― CATBEAST!! (Z S), Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
wait.
The first comment had a link to the show as broadcasted:
http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/2009/08/28/miley-cyrus-today-show-video/
but people are saying the singing in the first video is the "real" one, unprocessed. Maybe I just want her to fail too much.
― CATBEAST!! (Z S), Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Miley Cyrus is on Chimes of Freedom: The Songs of Bob Dylan Honoring 50 Years of Amnesty International. In an exclusive, Miley Cyrus will perform "You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go" on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" next Monday, February 6. It will be the first in a series of performances by artists from Chimes of Freedom, as Ellen pays tribute to the work of Amnesty International.
Cyrus' video for the track been added by MTV, VH1, MTV Hits, MTV.com, GAC, CMT, CMT Pure, CMT.com, Music Choice-Video on Demand and Palladia. "Miley covers 'You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go' with all of the mournfulness and dusty sentiment that the classic Dylan song requires, pouring her heart into the track and giving the legend his due," said MTV Buzzworthy, while NPR's Ann Powersobserved that Cyrus' "excellent outing recalls her godmother Dolly Parton."Using her social media sites, Miley has parlayed the video - which has received more than 2,000,000 views since premiering last week - into an opportunity to engage her fans in the human rights cause.
record company pr
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
How many cake-related scandals can Miley Cyrus weather?
― jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/pgBZh.jpg
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
It's hard to believe that just 40 years ago she was a teenager
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
Is it weird that I've heard See You Again five times in a row because of the "st-st-stuttered" bit
― some white dude (Turangalila), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
you know what, this is the best Miley single since the Bangerz era (which I maintain is a great album despite the controversies around it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS1no1myeTM
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 15 August 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
yeah this is pretty good
bangerz being good despite the controversy is pretty commonly acknowledged i think
― dyl, Sunday, 16 August 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link
it might be her best single ever to be honest. “edge of seventeen” is a good look on her.
― monotony, Sunday, 16 August 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link
New album has deep karaoke vibes, don’t know if for better or worse, leaning towards the latter
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:06 (three years ago) link
I take it back, this album is mostly good, esp the second half
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link
It feels to the 80s what Lenny Kravitz is to the 70s, and I mean this in a good way: it sounds more of that era than an imitation of it. In 20 years, maybe some of these songs will be interchangeable with, like, Shannon’s “Let The Music Play.”
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link
This is good! Not a fan of "Gimme What I Want," but I like everything else, esp. "High" and "Golden G String." There might be a few more songs on the theme of "I am a wild rebel spirit who will cheat on you, fuck the haters" than one album really needs, but overall I think it all works.
― Lily Dale, Thursday, 3 December 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link
Fucking great album. She sounds like Christina Amphlett in places.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 December 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link
Really love the Midnight Sky -> High -> Hate Me run
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 7 December 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link
Good live version of "Midnight Sky":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxZl2cFvjRs
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 12 December 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link
Also, I'm ready to make the "Midnight Sky" opening my ringtone.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is0hVNZJTOU my favorite song of hers was when she did the vocals on this butthole surfers song!
― xzanfar, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link
I refuse to click on this link but thought you might want to:
https://pitchfork.com/news/watch-miley-cyrus-cover-mazzy-star-fade-into-you/
― pomenitul, Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link
it's not even surprising that she does a really good job on this: she isn't trying to be Hope Sandoval but she manages to be faithful to the original while serving her own interpretation of it. I haven't really enjoyed this album cycle apart from the covers she's been doing in performances.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 29 January 2021 08:44 (three years ago) link
you know what, I wouldn't even do this for karaoke as a joke bc I still don't know what they are so kudos for the effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2he5Q2Tsn4
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 11:23 (three years ago) link
Listening to Bangerz and what a wacky album between the solid hits.
MILEY DID THIS TONIGHT AT LOLLAPALOOZA WHEN SHE PERFORMED SMS (bangerz)#FreeBritney pic.twitter.com/ynRyB6tKXx— stormie ♡ (@babylongcf) July 30, 2021
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 30 July 2021 21:14 (three years ago) link
new single is decent
― Murgatroid, Friday, 13 January 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link
forgot how I got there, but I had a small Miley kick earlier this week - some findings:“Wrecking Ball” is a great song. I think it was overshadowed by all the video hoopla back then, but I think it holds up better than “We Can’t Stop”, which I greatly preferred at the time.confirmed: I still love “Rooting For My Baby”. “Midnight Sky” is a bona fide bangerⓏ, and the mashup-remix with “Edge of Seventeen” is great too.oh, she also does a mash-up of “Wrecking Ball” and “Nothing Compares 2 U” that works extremely well. it’s on the live album (!) she released last year (!).yeah, that new song is decent, but not nearly as special as I would have hoped after my little Miley moment
― the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Friday, 13 January 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
“Flowers” is the biggest song in the world right now and has single(!)-handedly pushed Miley up to second-most streamed artist on Spotify. quite surreal.
― let us now celebrate ama ‘piano’ smith & the clowns (breastcrawl), Thursday, 16 February 2023 07:59 (one year ago) link
I really like Flowers, shades of...later period George Michael? Among other things anyways good for Miley and good for the world very encouraging
― Florin Cuchares, Thursday, 16 February 2023 09:32 (one year ago) link
don’t know what’s more surprising, how “tasteful” the album is (I mean, Brandi Carlisle and Sia are the features) or that it’s actually good bc of or despite its tastefulness (haven’t decided)
― Murgatroid, Monday, 13 March 2023 23:14 (one year ago) link
Good album. I prefer the last one.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 23:22 (one year ago) link
Probably same
Glad she deleted Wayne Coyne from her contacts
― Murgatroid, Monday, 13 March 2023 23:26 (one year ago) link
31 today.
I don't follow the Top 40 but I just heard "Flowers" and thought, that's a pretty nice song.
― Josefa, Friday, 24 November 2023 03:31 (nine months ago) link
top 40 is now geared toward ppl who only tune in once every several months for 10 mins, hence why they're still hammering that stale song
― dyl, Friday, 24 November 2023 16:48 (nine months ago) link
Yes, it was a surprise to me to notice that they still play songs from 2022 in heavy rotation. Taylor Swift’s “Anti-Hero” is another one… they play that just as frequently as her two current singles. But then I looked at the Billboard Hot 100 and was very surprised to see that it’s now common for songs to remain high in the charts for six months… some even for close to a year.
― Josefa, Friday, 24 November 2023 19:20 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, we had a discussion here about all the white folks in the top 40 a few months ago. Most of the top ten songs from back are still in the top 40, some still in the top 10.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 25 November 2023 01:01 (nine months ago) link
What thread was that discussion in?
― Josefa, Saturday, 25 November 2023 01:54 (nine months ago) link
Itunes, Billboard, and the marginalization of black music and black audiences in America
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 25 November 2023 02:31 (nine months ago) link
Thanks. I dipped into that and yeah it is crazy, the same rereleased Taylor Swift song that people were complaining about three months ago when it was at #4 is now at #1, and it’s spent over six months on the chart. So the Hot 100 really is a whole different planet now.
― Josefa, Saturday, 25 November 2023 03:11 (nine months ago) link