RFI: Border Community - Nathan Fake, James Holden, The MFA, Petter etc.

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so has anybody seen holden dj recently? he's coming here on the 16th and i really wanna check him out, moreso because i heard a february 05 set of his and it was all superpitcher/ellen allien/blackstrobe/bleepy-acidy goodness...is he consistently playing this sort of stuff?

manuel (manuel), Friday, 1 April 2005 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

skilla is that the "balance" mix or "fear of a silver planet"?? the "balance" mix looks good but i haven't had time to find it.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 1 April 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.themfa.com/?id=15

The MFA's remixing the Junior Boys' 'Bellona'...how swoonsome

their remix of Telepopmusik's 'Into Everything' is gorgeous

manuel (manuel), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Kompakt reissued the MFA single "the difference it makes" recently... great single. Never liked Superpitcher that much, but the Superpitcher remix of same track is also amazing.

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:43 (twenty-one years ago)

im tototally obsessed with that superpitcher remix.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Great, great, remix. Shoegazer techno!

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i used to post on the DCN message board with Petter back in the day before he blew up. he featured heavily on Sasha's last mix for GU and is really getting the royal treatment from many DJs. which is awesome because not only is his music fantastic, but he's a really nice guy too

and yeah this label is about the ONLY thing i'm liking in prog house these days. so nice and refreshing on so many levels

rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm listening to
james holden @ global dj broadcast

01. Mathew Jonson - Ultraviolet Dream
02. Covenant - Bullet (Ellen Allien Flow Mix)
03. Superpitcher - Happiness (Michael Mayer Remix)
04. Roel H. - Curly Hair
05. André Kraml - Safari (James Holden Remix)
06. Petter - Untitled Acid
07. Steve Lawler - Out At Night (Nathan Fake's Night In Mix)
08. ADJD - Believe
09. Stryke & Santos - Amazon
10. ID
11. ID
12. The Rapture - I Need Your Love (Playgroup Dub)

It's good and I want more

W i l l (common_person), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

track down the balance mix that vahid mentioned upthread. the discogs rating may seem hyperbole, but it isnt. at all. holdens street parade 07-08-2004 set is worth looking for as well

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks!

W i l l (common_person), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

are you sharing either of those, or other Holden, on slsk?

W i l l (common_person), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

James Holden live at Full Shade (Brescia) 11-20-2004 is ace as well

manuel (manuel), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The Petter track on the new Crosstown Rebels mix is awesome - it's like a clicky update of "No Fate" or one of those other dark-but-emotional early Harthouse/Eye Q tracks.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
the next bc release is extrawelt - soopatroopa. and extrawelt = midi miliz / spirallianz = psytrance veterans. discuss

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Monday, 2 May 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

mine arrived broken, so my initial views, to say the least, are neutral-to-negative.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

very interesting, btw, that midi miliz (sp?) is involved - i heard some of their stuff once and was shocked that it got classed as psytrance, seeing how closely it fell to the stuff i like. one of those "i'm a closed-minded git!" moments.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't catch this earlier, but this is great news! It was only a matter of time before the dark, minimalist techno end of psytrance connected to the "mainstream". I've been a huge fan of Raabe and Schaffhausen (Spirallianz, Midi Miliz and especially The Delta) for years.

Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 9 May 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a nathan fake live set posted here http://ump3.de/sites/nathanfake_live_dirtydancing.html

Jena (JenaP), Monday, 9 May 2005 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Dextro-Do You Need Help (MFA Help Help Mix) is one of the absolute best records of the last 12 months.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

so good.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone got the MFA-Live At Exposure 2004.

I'm not sure if it's an actual live set or them DJing, it sounds very pristine for a live set though all the tracks do sound like MFA productions and pristine is sort of their style I guess.

Needless to say it is great, like completely electronic deep house or something, with a good quick tempo, which gives it that really clubby deep house feel, a bit like "Mushrooms" by Marshall Jefferson but alot more of an electronics only feel to it.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 13 May 2005 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously everyone has to hear that Petter track. Just buy Crosstown Rebels Vol 2, it's an excellent mix.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 15 May 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The Petter track is epic and gorgeous - i think i need to find that mix to see how they work it - there's so many great builds.

natedey (ndeyoung), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

plus the melody is so entrancing but spooky, very horrorshow.

natedey (ndeyoung), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The Crosstown Rebels Mix is ace - a neat summation of almost all the great ideas floating around, and there's a special Pier Bucci mix of Andre Kraml's "Safari" (not the same as his remix on the proper Safari remix 12") which is fabulosly spacey.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
this spirallianz connection is fascinating...i echo philip's this-is-tagged-psytrance?! sentiment completely

manuel (manuel), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
New MFA EP on BPitchControl doesn't seem to have been mentioned yet - the bassline at the start of the first track, "Disco 2 Break" sounds startlingly like one of Vitalic's "Poney"s. Then the track's all over the place.

locus solus, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

and then "Rinse Time" sounds like, hmmm, Acen?

locus solus, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

is that out?

the remix of Ellen Allien is amazing.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah just came out Ronan - it's a little bit more electro/detroit than their border community stuff.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/holden-allien.jpg

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

he extrawelt release is good btw, standard bc swirliness with a speicher beat. doesnt sound much like psytrance either except for the trademark 303 "wretched creature" sounds (cf plastikmans plastique), which didnt keep the de:bug reviewer from pooh-poohing the records perceived goa hippieness

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

he = the

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
reliable maps of the human heart

c/n (Cozen), Thursday, 7 July 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Heard the Extrawelt release today, and although it's excellent, it's not at all what I expected - this is not the pitch-black minimal/psytrance crossover I imagined, which is a shame - psytrance has so many interesting sounds that I think would work very well within the current minimalist electro/techno structures. Somebody will do it sooner or later...

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 8 July 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

god, i really don't know how i missed this label.

my first exposure to fake/holden was at razzmatazz in barcelona last month, and even though i didn't see their entire sets, they still felt like total highlights. despite that, i kept forgetting to investigate;
tonite is the first night i've checked out any border community stuff at all. anyway, i've been sitting here for the last two hours, headphones on, totally spellbound. the james holden remix of "the sky was pink" is sublime -- i can't remember the last time i had this strong an emotional response to a 4/4 track. i'm currently about 9/10ths of the way through "balance" and its just been one frozen chill after another. this is wonderful, wonderful stuff.

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 9 July 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

Mark, for the absolute best in BC and related goodness (excluding whatever I haven't heard), check out:

MFA - The Difference It Makes (Superpitcher Mix)
Dextro - Do You Need Help? (MFA Mix)
Petter - Altogether
Holden - A Break in the Clouds
Nathan Fake - Dinamo
Andre Kraml - Safari (Holden Mix)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 9 July 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

... and "the sky was pink (icelandic version)"

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 9 July 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

or even better, the holden mix

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Saturday, 9 July 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

thanks tim! i should say that i knew the superpitcher remix already, but everything else is brand new.

does anyone know if the icelandic version is a proper remix or just like a homage? first thing it reminded me of was mum.

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 9 July 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

the dextro track is amazing.

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 9 July 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

btw fe zaffe that photo is rad.

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 9 July 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, Holden looks like he's lost a lot of weight. He's been having too much minimal pasta maybe?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 9 July 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

i also like:
the original "difference", nathan fake's rather mighty "outhouse" (the "fluffy" mix too - it's straight idm, but in an almost classicist aphex style, i find it pretty and soothing) and the astounding holden remix of britney's "breathe on me"

jermaine (jnoble), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

holden compares kompakt hype to prog house, big ups alden tyrell, is indeed horribly skinny

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Sunday, 10 July 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Ah, Nathan Fake album out later this year!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 10 July 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

the group from hamburg that he references in the interview - dextro or extrawelt?

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 10 July 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

noise snippets (which usually remind me of My Bloody Valentine's "Touched" or something) as, literally, DJ tools!

Ha! Saw Nathan Fake play a liveset last sunday (after Michael Mayer) and he indeed started out with a blissfull storm of MBV style noise. The great thing: somehow there was a implied beat in there...oh boy when it materialized. :) I had to leave after a while (I saw Tiefschwarz the night before -out of this world btw- so I was a bit tired) As a result I missed James Holden. But now I'm obsessed by this bunch.

Omar (Omar), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

A touch late but, similarly obsessed - except unlike Omar I left just as Fake was getting going :-( - The Holden rmx of Fake's 'the sky was pink' is stunning.

stevo (stevo), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

It's been very influential already too. I was kinda shocked by how much Booka Shade's "Mandarine Girl" sounded like it.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 24 July 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

*writing emoji*

I need to hear more Lindstrom, ty for the heads-up. Regard WYGIGT as a towering masterpiece but strangely haven't explored more!

imago, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 02:41 (three years ago)

The other album it reminds me of a bit (though not necessarily in strict stylistic terms) is the Khidja & Balabas album - reproducing the density and depth and atmosphere of Monolake's "Lantau" and "Macau" but in a less minimalist context.

when Tim mentions an album offhand and you know, not even having heard it yet, that you'll be playing it all summer

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 04:59 (three years ago)

lol yeah the K&B is so good

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 23:33 (three years ago)

Would be in my top ten "underrated to the point of being unheard of" albums of the past 5 years or so

Tim F, Thursday, 6 April 2023 01:50 (three years ago)

not familiar. I see a few EPs on bandcamp and will check them out. What is the album?

dan selzer, Thursday, 6 April 2023 12:44 (three years ago)

https://khidja.bandcamp.com/album/khidja-si-balabas

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:14 (three years ago)

oh yeah I saw that. thought that was an ep and there was some other LP being referred to. Will def listen.

dan selzer, Thursday, 6 April 2023 17:17 (three years ago)

I am unsure what I think of this new James Holden thus far. I was really excited for it but it hasn't quite connected. I adored the Animal Spirits and have played it loads over several years, probably more than The Inheritors which was a big favourite when it came out. My (very minor) antipathy might be contextual - I've been getting over jetlag since I got it on Friday and every time I try and sit down and listen to it on the big stereo I get interrupted or I'm knackered, so it's mostly been ambient music while I've been wfh Monday and today. I think I was expecting more from it in terms of drums and rhythms; it's very vaporous.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:52 (three years ago)

Headphones and sunshine turn this into a completely different record for me.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 20 April 2023 12:07 (three years ago)

I dig it. Lots of feeling and color and grooves. It's floating and cosmic but a nice kind of busy and the live feel is distinct. Obviously I'm here for any long-form electronic albums with spiritual ethno and jazz touches.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 10:03 (three years ago)

second listen, this time on headphones, def more interesting.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 11:25 (three years ago)

it's deffo a fantastic headphone listen. great for long walks and late night drives (the latter i can only imagine as i don't drive). i love the cheap drum machines and lo fi beats; refreshing in this era of over produced drum beats.

playing live early eveining this sunday in a park in Glasgow. can't wait!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:31 (three years ago)

It's a sunshine and sunset record!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:49 (three years ago)

the thing about mic'ing speakers...makes so much sense. No amount of lo-fi plug-ins and/or digital reverb is going to create that kind of space.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:26 (three years ago)

Had it on outside in the sunshine by a fire this afternoon, so good I played it twice

I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:26 (three years ago)

three weeks pass...

I have basically had this on repeat for the last month, occasionally flitting back to the last Daniel Avery record. Now the sun is properly out and it's warmer, it makes so much sense. It also makes a great soundtrack to swooping between sky islands in the new Zelda game (while the Daniel Avry works well for exploring subterranian landscapes in same).

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:24 (three years ago)

one year passes...

Don’t sleep on the Long Weekend EP by Holden and Zimpel: one of the best trance synth jazz things he’s done.

Also the Leafcutter John album from 2019 is lush.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 19:36 (one year ago)

seconded

dan selzer, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 19:42 (one year ago)

I used to work in a hospital and, as an art project, the service users designed some sleeves for early Border Community twelves (I can't really remember the context but I think there was colour-in sleeve that you could download and print). Anyway, they put all the work on their website, which felt fun at the time.

I was having a quick scan to see if I've told that story before on here and feel compelled to say that I loved Michael Mayer's Fabric mix (but don't want to start the next world war).

djh, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 20:15 (one year ago)

Fabric 13 is one of the greats imo

Thanks for the Leafholdenzimpelcutter recommendation (John)

rainbow calx (lukas), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 21:09 (one year ago)

Thanks for the reminder about Long Weekend, great record.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 21:41 (one year ago)

that's really cool, djh. I remember the cover coloring thing and the border community site showcasing the results!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 10 April 2025 14:42 (one year ago)

xxpost The BC people are great folks.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 10 April 2025 17:45 (one year ago)

Holden and Zimpel have just announced an album. Out in June. Psyched.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 April 2025 17:29 (one year ago)

one month passes...

It is lush.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 13 June 2025 21:43 (eleven months ago)

it's really good

they're playing live here in August for Mutek. I'm hoping to go even though the show starts at 10pm and they're on third ;_;

(helpfully, Valentina Magaletti are on second)

rob, Sunday, 15 June 2025 15:11 (eleven months ago)

Effervescent and magical! Zimpel seems to bring out the best in the people he collabs with

Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Monday, 16 June 2025 03:19 (eleven months ago)

I'm a big fan of both of them separately. This is easily my favorite of their collaborations.

beard papa, Monday, 16 June 2025 06:32 (eleven months ago)

holy fuck this is good

ivy., Monday, 16 June 2025 15:00 (eleven months ago)

My CD arrived today. Came with a punk heart shaped sticker that had the album title on it. I like the sentiment.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 16 June 2025 17:32 (eleven months ago)

This is great. Big Harmonia vibes from the second track.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 16 June 2025 19:08 (eleven months ago)

God the Zimpel/Ziolek record is amazing.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 17 June 2025 20:57 (eleven months ago)

fwiw past Zimpel chat has mostly been here: stara rzeka, innercity ensemble, polish underground

should probably rename the thread tbh

rob, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 21:35 (eleven months ago)

this is a lovely new interview that covers a lot of ground...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AbL4P2IkRo

Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 26 June 2025 12:05 (eleven months ago)

also appreciated scuba as an interviewer - asks some good questions, seems to have done a bit of research beforehand, and otherwise just let's the interviewee talk without getting in the way the whole time

Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Thursday, 26 June 2025 12:07 (eleven months ago)


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