Robert Quine

there is quite an informative site here.

Even if he hadn't been a damn good guitarist, for the VU set last year alone he deserves credit. RIP.

RIP

His squeals and weals, his steers off-road and up-neck. His lurches and car crashes of sound; his conjured explosions and high twang drifters.

Terrible news...

it is.

Anyway, let the anecdotes begin: anyone else hear the story of the '74 or '75 Richard Hell tour with the Ramones in the UK, where - older and crankier than his tourmmates - Quine allegedly throttled whatever gobbers dared spit on his nice guitar?

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'Don't Look Back', 'Sweetheart' (1990)

'Tell Your Sister (The "L" Word) (1991)

'Like Lovers Do' (1995)

'Man on the Verge' (2000)

or many others.

Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank Generation (1977)
Lydia Lunch - Queen of Siam (1979)
Material - Temporary Music 1 (1981)
Robert Quine - Escape (with Jody Harris) (1981)
Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Destiny Street (1982)
Lou Reed - The Blue Mask (1982)
Material - Red Tracks (1982)
Get Crazy - film soundtrack (1983)
Lou Reed - Legendary Hearts (1983)
Lou Reed - Live in Italy (1984)
John Zorn - The Big Gundown (1984)
Richard Hell & the Voidoids - R.I.P.: The ROIR Sessions (1984)
Robert Quine - Basic (with Fred Maher) (1984)
Tom Waits - Rain Dogs (1985)
Scritti Politti - Cupid & Psyche 85 (1985)
Wiseblood - Dirtdish (1986)
John Zorn - Spillane (1986)
Marianne Faithfull - Strange Weather (1987)
Matthew Sweet - Earth (1989)
Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Funhunt (Live at CBGB & Max's) (1990)
Lloyd Cole - Lloyd Cole (1990)
Lloyd Cole - Don't Get Weird On Me Babe (1991)
Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend (1991)
Dim Stars - Dim Stars (1992)
Brian Eno - Nerve Net (1992)
Lou Reed - Between Thought and Expression (1992)
Suzanne Rhatigan - To Hell With Love (1992)
John Zorn - Film Works 1986-1990 (1992)
Hal Willner - Weird Nightmare: Meditations on Mingus (1992)
The Odds - Bedbugs (1993)
Matthew Sweet - Altered Beast (1993)
Sion - I Don't Like Myself (1993)
Matthew Sweet - Son of Altered Beast (1994)
They Might Be Giants - John Henry (1994)
Lloyd Cole - Love Story (1995)
Mike Mainieri - Come Together: Guitar Tribute to the Beatles, Vol. 2 (1995)
Richard Hell - Go Now (1995)
Matthew Sweet - 100% Fun (1995)
Matthew Sweet - We're the Same (1995)
Mikel Erentxun - El Abrazo Del Erizo (1995)
John Zorn - Film Works V: Tears of Ecstacy (1996)
Material - Secret Life (1996)
Corin Curschellas - Valdun—Voices of Rumantsch (1997)
Ikue Mori (with Marc Ribot) - Painted Desert (1997)
John Zorn - Film Works III (1997)
John Zorn - Film Works IV: S&M (1997)
John Zorn - Film Works VII: Cynical Hysterie Hour (1997)
John Zorn - Great Jewish Music: Burt Bacharach (1997)
Reiss - Vibe of Life (1998)
John Zorn - Bribe (1998)
Material - Best of Material (1999)
John Zorn - Godard/Spillane (1999)
Richard Hell & the Voidoids - 'Oh' - MUSICBLITZ.com (2000)
Kazuyoshi Saito - Cold Tube (2000)
The Odds - Singles—Individually Wrapped (2000)
Sion - Songs (2000)
Wayne Kramer Presents Beyond Cyberpunk (2001)
Andre Williams - Bait and Switch (2001)
The Velvet Underground - Bootleg Series Volume 1: The Quine Tapes (2001)
Lloyd Cole - Etc. (2001)
Richard Hell - Time (2002)
Michael DuClos - Lustro (2002)
Tom Clark and the High Action Boys - Cross-Eyed and Bow-Legged (2002)
Lys Guillorn - Lys Guillorn (2003)

Just realized that info was already posted upthread

Misleading title, since this new piece is mainly about stompboxes, but good mention of grooving with Quine:

Stompbox Shopping with Robert Quine
Pat Irwin

That was such a great read, thank you Dow

Nice! Hadn’t heard the Art Garfunkel story before

i'm not super familiar with quine's work, but when i was putting together my beatles cover project, i was really taken by the quine/harris version of "yes it is". i wouldn't call it "angular" or any of those kinds of words that often get used to describe quine's playing (tho i don't have a problem with "angular" as a description!). i just think it's really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLejh80bsVM

Starting to finally think more clearly of what angular might mean after all these years. Yeah, he would never be angular, too much early rock and R&B in his playing combined with the outsideness– some of the outside quality comes from early rock!

Rock ‘n’ roll, yeah rock ‘n’ roll

Wouldn’t call Ivan Julian angular either

Feel like angular means hardly any blues influence, hardly any direct European melodic influence, classical or otherwise, and no distortion but maybe a chorus effect

Does anyone really know what's meant by angular though? I think of Andy Gill as angular and he comes out of Wilko Johnson, so plenty of blues there.

it's all that tolkien

Lol

Some people say it means big intervals instead of small

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/define-angular-guitar.76043/

I would say the Love Comes in Spurts solo is "angular," to me. I'd put the leads from, say, Safe As Milk to be in that category as well, as another example that's definitely blues based. I guess I'd say it is playing that is at angles with the key/mode that would be expected for the song.

Not trawling through some Hoffman link to find out but as well as the above I'd say playing at an angle to the rhythm, however you want to define that. Arto Lindsay, for example, just plays across the whole thing.

it's a short thread! allow me to summarize:

It's a weak descriptive adjective with no real meaning. It's a horrible rock critic cliche whose user is too lazy to actually "write" what he means.

Yes, it's a bad description. I think the writer means that the rhythm guitarist is playing single lines instead of strumming the entire chord at once

btw I fucking love Quine's playing on the Voidoids LP. I always took the original "angular" to be the post punk dry clean guitar sound, eschewing effects, e.g. Entertainment! and Crazy Rhythms.

Arto is a perfect example!

I think of angular to mean lots of syncopated phrases with space in between, and probably using a lot of dissonance too.

Yes I think of it as meaning staccato/chugging guitar parts or like erratic arpeggios or something

I don’t think Lindsay is angular - he admits he can’t play guitar traditionally and treats it completely as a percussion instrument; angular guitar isn’t really *just* that

Angular guitar has too many notes that are purposely played.

I've always thought of Jay Graydon's solo on "Peg" as the ur-angular guitar break.

nothing more angular than the waves of fear solo though.

btw I fucking love Quine's playing on the Voidoids LP. I always took the original "angular" to be the post punk dry clean guitar sound, eschewing effects, e.g. Entertainment! and Crazy Rhythms

otm, yeah i think a lot of people habitually deploy "angular" when what they're really responding to isnt the playing but a certain sharp piercing tone

I've always thought of Jay Graydon's solo on "Peg" as the ur-angular guitar break.

i always like seeing this thread revived. what is it about quine? his obvious insecurity, his obvious talent.. i think we all sometimes think of ourselves as quine-ish (self aggrandizingly, perhaps)

Lol

Angular to me was using tritones, diminished or augmented chords that literally have the notes going at an angle on the fretboard. They are not minor or major more going for dissonance.

Like that opening chord of Liars Beware and the licks that follow.

I listened to the back half of Girlfriend today, which Quine dominates. Talk about an okay pop record turned into a great one thanks to Quine (and Richard Lloyd and to a lesser extent Lloyd Cole).

point of order: talk about a great pop record turned into a SUBLIME one, etc etc (one does not need to belittle Sweet's achievement to celebrate Quine and Lloyd imo)

ha, fair!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp-5V3PJ90E

Ah yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ00GZTP93c