Charlatans(UK) C/D

This album is EASILY on my top 100 of all time, probably in the top 10.

How great a line is "Have you seen my polar bear? / It's that white one over there"?

Tim Burgess has always been my favorite singer to come out of that scene, though -- even more than Ian Brown. I'm sort of anxious to hear his solo record if it's ever finished.

every hayta has to download 'a man needs to be told' at once !
only then can you say you definitely dont like them.

So, Classic.

Of course, like most people in this country, I have only heard all the singles, but they're still great pop singles.

d.

same here dan.

well if you wanna like post-dylan cobblers then fine mista perry.

You know the person at work who *always* comes out with the most *obvious* jokes, always parrots the standard line on the issue of day, always gives you 'fun' advice like 'don't do anything *I* wouldn't do'? They're not hateful, quite amiable even, but ultimately.....you'd rather do anything than have to converse with them. Well that's the Charlatans. Standard issue. Ordinary. Does What It Says On The Tin. Fuck them.

the Charlatans are nothing like that Dr C, you're thinking of Travis or Athlete perhaps.

ah re-assurance and reliability...

This is a context/ubiquity issue, isn't it? The Charlatans were never shoved down our throats over here and we weren't inundated with 800 bands doing the same thing unless we wanted to be, ergo some of us in the US have developed very different attitudes towards "the obvious targets".

Also, I think I can count the number of Happy Mondays album tracks that I've liked on two fingers, only I don't actually have any recollection of them. For a good long while Primal Scream and Happy Mondays were duking it out for Most Overrated Singles Band In The UK in my mind, but then I realized that outside of "Slip Inside This House" I thought that _Screamadelica_-era PS was irredeemable shit across the board.

the one charlatans fan i met was a very nice guy. he liked ocean colour scene, paul weller and so on but i conversed with him though i lost touch after college...for me its not to do with the fans but the music just relies so much on that organ and i never feel the others are contributing too much to the sound (this is from listening to a handful of singles, which after listening to them neevr encouraged me to go any further with it).

No, I'm thinking of the Charlatans.

I think it is a context thing, Dan, but not an ubiquity thing. Certainly a very useless thing.I mean they're not vile like Primal Scream, they're just not....anything. A bit baggy, a bit Roses-y THEN whooo! Timmy discovers Blonde on Blonde and Sticky Fingers and we get a youth club version of The fucking Rolling Stones fronted by Booby Zimmertwat. I mean did we ever need them? Why aren't people more fucking critical? They didn't even come from Manchester properly. Hell - even the Inspiral Carpets were better.

It's my way of weeding out the wheat from the chaff. The 'classic or dud' conundrum is how I have always viewed music. Snap decisions, good or bad, in or out. I don't want 'average'. I'll come down harder on 'average' than 'crap'. It's just my way - it's of no importance what I think anyway.

Can't stop won't stop

https://thecharlatans.lnk.to/DifferentDaysPR

The Charlatans have released their new single "Plastic Machinery," available now for download and streaming. The song is from the band's thirteenth album entitled Different Days, due out May 26, 2017 via BMG. Co-produced by Jim Spencer, the album was recorded at the band’s studio in Cheshire and features contributions from an array of friends... from Paul Weller and Johnny Marr to crime writer Ian Rankin and writer/actress Sharon Horgan.

Fuckin' hell, this band are still going!?

The longest time they've ever been between albums has been three years. Most times it's been two, sometimes one.

https://i.imgur.com/APuBgLk.jpg

as you can see from the above pic i'm seeing these lads tonight. i have not paid any attention to them since the 90s ended. i just did some research and they now have 13 albums, that blows my mind. that they somehow have kept it together and are still releasing new music every few years. i have seen them in the past and had a blast dancing my ass off, so i'm hoping for a fun show tonight as one of my old friend talked me into going to the heart of Los Angeles tonight.

I met a boyfriend because of Up to Our Hips. I am old. Take pics.

https://i.imgur.com/4SxquT8.jpg

i had a blast for a band that is just okay. my friend was joking that the band was really tight but they need a new singer, cracked me up. the audience
was great as we were all there trying to relive the early 90s all over again. "Sproston Green" is still the best song they have done. i do wish they played more from The Charlatans as "Just When You Thinkin; Things Over" was an obvious highlight and stood out.

i looked these guys up and did you know that they now have 13 albums? good for them for keeping it going.

Yeah I am surprised they have that many albums as well.

Their last couple albums are pretty decent...

The great survivors of their scene, really. Would have seen them last Saturday but other stuff came up.

Does any 90s album by a major act, on a major label, which was a major success (a UK No. 2), have as cheap-looking an album cover as Us and Us Only?

I don't know, when was Bloodflowers released

It's from February 2000 but I had that on my mind before I posted.

If nothing else the Bloodflowers aesthetic would turn up all over the place around 2016-2020

tbf it's hard to think about these lads without the words "Happy Shopper" springing to mind

I'm not sure how it came up randomly on YouTube, but I heard "The End of Everything" for the first time in thirty years. Sounded fab.

whoa them vibes flowing from somewhere— i truly threw on dwsts because i am self teaching me some guitar and want to figure that opening guitar patch, then I immed by chance hit SNA and this thread was revived.

now on to “the sound of everything” which i cannot recall ?

also i scanned this thread and sweet jeesus 22 UK top 40s?? i need to remove my _obscure cvs singles_ posting on them

The Charlatans are definitely obscure in Centennial, CO hell it's obscure here in the Los Angeles area.

...love those first four, five, six Charlatans albums...

― Bee OK, Wednesday, February 21, 2024 10:00 PM (two days ago)

Hell of a run if you ask me, even if they are just an average band.

Some Friendly (1990)
Between 10th and 11th (1992)
Up to Our Hips (1994)
The Charlatans (1995)
Tellin' Stories (1997)
Us and Us Only (1999)

The Charlatans are definitely obscure in Centennial, CO hell it's obscure here in the Los Angeles area.

They were obscure even when Tim Burgess was living here and DJ'ing at Goldfinger's every week!

i saw them here about year ago with ride, they were p good. he looked great, pretty spry. not sure who was there for which band, but show seemed v well attended.

Funny, “The Only One I Know” just popped up on one of my Spotify mixes today. Guess they’re in the air.

These guys were a damn good band. Listening to the self titled (a big teen fave of mine) a lot lately. Tellin' Stories is really good too.

Telling Stories is GREAT, such a badass rhythm section

Still going! First track from the new album (their 14th! I marvel anew that they were the real lifers from that time/place).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ks7jyMRE0

That video definitely has 14th album energy.
(does "Official Visualizer" mean that it was the record label who fed the 3 press photos into the iPhone Photos app to see what it could spit out?)

Pleasantly surprised by this new one! Probably my favorite since Up At the Lake.

https://thecharlatans.net/#natour

THE CHARLATANS (UK) – 2026 TOUR DATES

Apr 24, 2026 – Norwich, UK – UEA
Apr 25, 2026 – Brighton, UK – Dome
Apr 26, 2026 – Bournemouth, UK – O2 Academy
Apr 28, 2026 – Cardiff, UK – Tramshed
Apr 29, 2026 – Nottingham, UK – Rock City
May 1, 2026 – Birmingham, UK – O2 Academy
May 2, 2026 – Sheffield, UK – Octagon Centre
May 3, 2026 – Newcastle, UK – O2 City Hall
May 5, 2026 – Aberdeen, UK – Music Hall
May 6, 2026 – Edinburgh, UK – Corn Exchange
May 15–16, 2026 – Granada, Spain – Degusta Fest Armilla †
Jul 24, 2026 – Emo, Ireland – Forest Fest Music Festival †
Aug 6, 2026 – Herefordshire, UK – Lakefest †
Aug 29, 2026 – Wellingborough, UK – Roseshire Festival †

US:

Sep 3, 2026 – Santa Ana, CA – The Observatory ^
Sep 4, 2026 – Los Angeles, CA – Hollywood Palladium ^
Sep 5, 2026 – San Diego, CA – House of Blues
Sep 7, 2026 – San Francisco, CA – The Castro Theatre
Sep 10, 2026 – Portland, OR – Wonder Ballroom
Sep 11, 2026 – Vancouver, BC – Commodore Ballroom
Sep 12, 2026 – Seattle, WA – The Showbox
Sep 16, 2026 – Minneapolis, MN – Fine Line
Sep 17, 2026 – Chicago, IL – Park West
Sep 19, 2026 – Detroit, MI – El Club
Sep 20, 2026 – Toronto, ON – Danforth Music Hall
Sep 21, 2026 – Montreal, QC – Fairmount Theatre
Sep 22, 2026 – Boston, MA – Paradise Rock Club
Sep 23, 2026 – Philadelphia, PA – Union Transfer
Sep 25, 2026 – Silver Spring, MD – The Fillmore Silver Spring
Sep 26, 2026 – Brooklyn, NY – Brooklyn Steel

† Festival Appearance
^ w/ The Dandy Warhols and Special Guests TBA

The lifer status of these guys still impresses me, honestly. Hoping I can make the SF show.

Pete Salisbury of The Verve has been playing drums for them for awhile now. Going to try to make that Santa Ana show

That seems like it would be a great fit, Pete definitely can get that baggy breakbeat feel for instance

He was solid with them live when I last caught them three years back.

I bought tickets and am psyched

Good to see them kicking off with a hometown gig.

I saw The Charlatans with The Dandy Warhols at the Fillmore in San Francisco around '97, so the Tellin' Stories tour. Zia McCabe went top less that night and I was totally transfixed. Couldn't keep my eyes off of her, such beauty.