I don't 'chill out' or drink pints either.
I am 'dead' to most. so what? they are dead to me as well.
got it!
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 16 March 2003 20:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 16 March 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 16 March 2003 20:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
you did say c or d. I'm saying d.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 16 March 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Calum, Sunday, 16 March 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 16 March 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
'Cherry Lips' would be okay except its a total rip off of Nikka Costa's 'Everybody Got Their Something', unless its the other way round (prefer Nikka tho)
― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 16 March 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 16 March 2003 21:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― brg30 (brg30), Monday, 17 March 2003 02:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 17 March 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 March 2003 04:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 17 March 2003 06:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
What I think is interesting about Garbage is that they fetishised the digital at a point when the obvious influence - namely, hip hop - was actually still in a fairly naturalist mode, so that they were forced to instead tie their mast to "electronica" (of course they might have decided to do this anyway to suit their audience). "Electronica" has receded in terms of influence on pop-rock (replaced by an electronically reinvigorated hip hop), and now what seemed like really obvious musical choices for Garbage to make at the time appear quite curious. The songs on their second album are quite light on groove in the conventional, hip-hop sense; they're much monolithic, in that they're so cluttered that the treble and the bass are essentially fused together. The closest modern reference I can think of is Max Martin; the obvious other one is Phil Spector. It means though that they sound much more unambiguously pop now than they did then... at least to these ears. It's a pretty "white" sound obviously, which is where I think they stand out quite clearly as predecessors to the more electronic end of nu-metal.
I don't have the recent album as both the singles annoyed me, the bridge of "Cherry Lips" excepted.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 17 March 2003 06:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Calum Robert, Monday, 17 March 2003 12:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
CD80 Garbage "portable" go!
VowOnly Happy When It RainsSupervixenQueerStupid GirlMilk#1 CrushPush ItTemptation WaitsI Think I'm ParanoidSpecialWhen I Grow UpThe Trick Is to Keep BreathingYou Look So FineThirteenThe World Is Not EnoughAndrogynyCherry Lips (Go Baby Go!)Breaking Up the GirlParade
(chronological according to first release - single or album - and missing "Shut Your Mouth", replaced by key album tracks. 80:20)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Debito (Debito), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:13 (twenty years ago) link
over-produced angst rock with average vox, no sex appeal, and darkish-i-mean-it-man lyrics.and the men in the group were just 40ish frat rockers
― paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 6 November 2003 03:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 6 November 2003 03:18 (twenty years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 6 November 2003 06:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 6 November 2003 09:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Damian (Damian), Thursday, 6 November 2003 09:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 10:05 (twenty years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 6 November 2003 10:13 (twenty years ago) link
Garbage Vol. 2 sounded great at the time and in a funny way even better now as the sort of lost ancestor for Linkin Park-style digi-rock - only not much of the current digi-rock is as burnished and kaleidoscopic as tracks like "Temptation Waits", "Push It" and Hammer In My Head".
OTM!
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Manson (Enrique), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link
did the new one tank that badly?
w. garbage, i dunno why they bothered playing live and stuff. they were really a prefab sprout type studio band?
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Hits package out Tuesday
Fuck the remixes, where's the b-sides?
― C. Grisso/McCain, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Tim Finney unsurprisingly OTM about Version 2.0 odd charm (can a record be an anachronicism yet ahead of its time?).
Their singles hold up fairly well. In a fit of euphoria I once called the above album the Parallel Lines of the nineties.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link
i think they have about two pretty key singles: 'vow' and 'i think i'm paranoid'
i think i've still got that debut s/t record sitting around somewhere.
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 13 July 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link
"Cherry Lips" has to be the best thing to come out of the whole JT LeRoy affair.
― C. Grisso/McCain, Friday, 13 July 2007 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link
The special limited edition 2-CD set adds to the original CD a bonus disc of remixes by some of the world s most renowned DJs, including U.N.K.L.E., Massive Attack, Todd Terry, Crystal Method, Fun Lovin Criminals, and Felix Da Housecat.
Fun Lovin Crims ? worlds most renowned DJs ?
what next a free prince album in a Sunday newspaper.
oh hang on ..
― mark e, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Where's that thread where ned and I argued endlessly about garbage? That was a good one.
― Tim F, Sunday, 15 July 2007 08:30 (sixteen years ago) link
where's that thread where ned and tim argued endlessly about rubbish?
that's just about every thread!
j/k :)
― Charlie Howard, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
When was the last time you thought, "You know, I would love to hear some Garbage"?
― Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 1 August 2008 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link
When I saw this thread!
― moley, Friday, 1 August 2008 06:14 (fifteen years ago) link
1995
― electricsound, Friday, 1 August 2008 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link
1 month ago i put version 2.0 on. the debut still kicks its ass, but Push It is something else.
― Surmounter, Friday, 1 August 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I stuck Supervixen (aka Only Shallow II) on the other day!
― Just got offed, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Always made me car-sick.
Bunch of fat dads squeezing into those tight pants.
― Hadrian VIII, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I re-discovered 2.0 year ago and I still listen it to it pretty regularly. I like it much better than the debut
― baaderonixx, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Surely Shirley's debut should have been out by now, no?
― StanM, Friday, 1 August 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Three weeks ago! I really wanted to hear "Hammering in My Head."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 August 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I had the hits album out the other day (the regular albums are in storage). Speaking of Shirley, I read in TV Guide that she's going to appear in a semi-regular role this season on Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles.
― C. Grisso/McCain, Friday, 1 August 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I spent an afternoon a few weeks ago scouring the web in the hopes that some enterprising nerd compiled & illegally uploaded a collection of Garbage b-sides.
― David R., Friday, 1 August 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
well since it's asked way upthread this is the thread with the back and forth between ned and tim about garbage TS: Curve's "Horror Head" vs. Garbage's entire discography
an ilx classic imo
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
you'll take Version 2.0 from my cold dead hands
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
anyone else heard the new one? the first track threw me off so much, i love it
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link
like it sounds like it belongs on portishead's third
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I listened to it this morning. It's their strongest album in years. Some of the ballads are really great.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link
wow @ "magnetized." wow.
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
very positive 4 star review in the current mojo !
― mark e, Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link
I'm listening to it now. Accidentally had it on shuffle and "Sometimes" going straight into "Magnetized" was incredible - disappointed it's not the actual running order. "Empty" is the only weak moment out of the first five songs so far!
― oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
i am so excited to really enjoy a garbage album in 2016 !!!!
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link
Shirley's lyrics haven't got any better since the last album (which, no, stop saying things) but it really doesn't matter.
Opening of "Even If Our Love Is Doomed" reminds me of the melody of "Take Me Out". Like how part of "Night Drive Loneliness" seems to hark back to "You Look So Fine".
― oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link
The enthusiasm in this thread is making me excited. Version 2.0 is like my original favourite album of all time but the last two were so not the direction they should have been following.
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link
Empty seems like a very strange choice of single. It's one of the weakest songs on here.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
Wish "We Never Tell" had had the megapop chorus it sounds like it should have had, and "So We Can Stay Alive" does but sounds like it shouldn't. Still like both of them! This is so much better than the last two records it's not even funny.
― oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link
revisited most of the catalog over the past two days, and yeah, this is the best since version 2.0. gets better every time i listen to it
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 June 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
Nice to see this getting some pretty good reviews.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 10 June 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link
That feeling when your old favourite band releases their best album in 18 years!
― oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Saturday, 11 June 2016 07:06 (seven years ago) link
I was really wanting to like this, but I didn't think too much until Magnetized. And thought the rest of the album was solidly great from there.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Saturday, 11 June 2016 10:05 (seven years ago) link
also not that impressed. 'Sometimes,' 'If I Lost You,' and 'We Never Tell' are great, though.
― KevRus, Saturday, 11 June 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcfOmhGJ8G4
their best song/video combination in... idk how long. reminds me of "push it' in moood
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 7 October 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
I came around to tear your little world apart!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 October 2017 05:44 (six years ago) link
these guys have an amazing second act
― ivy., Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:27 (one week ago) link
been going through the whole discog and it's very striking how not your kind of people, strange little birds, "no horses," and no gods no masters are cumulatively way way way better than albums 3 and 4 (beautifulgarbage still kind of an underrated mess)
― ivy., Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:30 (one week ago) link
Listening to "Wolves" now, it occurred to me how Garbage still respect the vacillations in behavior we see in adolescents and respect how we can still have'em after 30.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:36 (one week ago) link
also, i really really really wish i could buy the dress shirley manson wears in the "stupid girl" video. i bought a polka-dot dress this week just to appropriate her "i think i'm paranoid" look. as with madonna and janet jackson, when i first saw shirley manson i thought "wow i want to be her," and that's never really stopped
― ivy., Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:47 (one week ago) link
Wailing "Only Happy When It Rains" at karaoke was one of my finest moments in spring '23.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:50 (one week ago) link
briefly meeting Shirley Manson a decade ago at a coffee shop was one of the better brushes w/fame i've had.
― omar little, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:56 (one week ago) link
Androgyny really was an insane choice of lead single
Beautiful Garbage is almost my favourite of their LPs (over the debut) but I don't think it starts well, which was reaffirmed by a relisten only a few weeks ago. The Timo Maas remix of Breaking Up the Girl would be a welcome bonus on my copy.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:26 (one week ago) link
Larry Mullins, subbing for an ill Butch Vig, kicked ass on "Cherry Lips" when they opened for U2 on the final leg of the Elevation tour in Miami.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 21:32 (one week ago) link
I drank a pinot grigio next to Butch at Eataly in Vegas, but was too shy to say hello.
― KevRus, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:05 (six days ago) link
― you can see me from westbury white horse
I quite like that song, but it was a insane choice indeed. Shut Your Mouth being put out as the last single was an even weirder pick and is probably their worst single. Take off that, Til The Day I Die and Untouchable and it's a fantastic album. Some really excellent album tracks on there. Cup Of Coffee is devastating and a career highlight. Parade should have been the first single really.
― kitchen person, Thursday, 30 May 2024 01:45 (five days ago) link
Also, I revisited Bleed Like Me recently and it was a lot better than I remembered. I'm still disappointed Run Baby Run was cancelled as a single. It's one of the most obvious hits in their career. The title track is so great too.
― kitchen person, Thursday, 30 May 2024 01:47 (five days ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8uuUkyv1x0
this remix is sooooooo much better than the album version of "bad boyfriend," can't believe it's the same song
― ivy., Thursday, 30 May 2024 02:20 (five days ago) link
so you're saying i should listen to the later albums i guess
are there not some clunkers on there?
― Swen, Thursday, 30 May 2024 06:53 (five days ago) link
Fewer than you think.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2024 09:24 (five days ago) link
"The World Is Not Enough" pretty great bond theme
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 30 May 2024 10:50 (five days ago) link