Sleigh Bells: Treats

umm i just think there's a lot to making novel, head-turning music that people sometimes don't feel is legitimate but imo totally is, primary aesthetic experience and that sort of thing. if the first few times listening through an album are incredible, to me that is super valuable. as much if not more as if on your 15th listen you are still discovering new things and your enjoyment of the songs evolves.

i like albums that grow on you, too, but not as much tbh and i don't have that experience that often anymore.

I HATE THIS GODDADMN BAND

umm i just think there's a lot to making novel, head-turning music that people sometimes don't feel is legitimate but imo totally is, primary aesthetic experience and that sort of thing. if the first few times listening through an album are incredible, to me that is super valuable.

― samosa gibreel

Its OK to just enjoy it now than.

i sympathize with that feeling, i feel like that sort of reevaluatino inevitable with a lot of music. hindsight is maybe a bit overrated anyways, esp in worlds where people continue talking and making ordered lists of albums on forums, sometimes i have to remind myself to get in the moment and not give a shit about any of that stuff and just kick it.

that would work if this was a good album but its not.

definitely loving sleigh bells in the here and now. kinda being careful not to overplay it though, cuz it seems like something that'll fade fast...

I HATE THIS GODDADMN BAND

HI DRUNKY U R MISSPELLING UR WORDS 2 US

Definitely agree with contenderizer w/r/t "being careful not to overplay it." This is definitely a record that I could see myself just listening to again and again so much that I'll buy it, shelve it, and pick it up very rarely after that. If there's one thing to be said about albums that reveal themselves after multiple listens, it's that these records are often ones that can be played again and again, but even there I'll reach this thing where after, say, between forty and seventy listens -- and yes, I've probably listened to some records that many times -- I'll almost never want to hear it again. I've heard, like, Wilco's A ghost is born so much that, even though I love that record, I seldom desire it.

Still, I wouldn't want to live in a world without both immediate, "this fucking rules" kind of records and "reveals itself over time" sort of records too.

Also:

getting caught up in exciting fun silly music is a good look, would rather not be the guy scoffing and listening to the national when i could be listening to sleigh bells.

I agree with the first part of this, and I'm not a fan of the second type of person, but I'm more interested in being a third type of listener myself: the person who can get caught up in "fun, silly music" and "some nuanced indie rock album"--or "some nuanced" any kind of album. Limiting yourself to enjoying one type of record, or privileging one type of record exclusively over all others, is totally boring to me. Not that that's what anyone is calling for here, and not that I don't have many blindspots or proclivities to listen to certain types of music over others.

I find I enjoy being a music listener most, I'm saying, when I'm more open than closed as a listener, within certain boundaries.

I don't know. According to my iPod I listened to Ting Tings' Great DJ 22 times and I'm aware this band kind of suck. I see the same thing in Sleigh Bells.

You must've liked the Ting Ting's jam enough that you listened to it twenty-two times, so your awareness that "this band kind of suck[s]" seems to be more of an awareness that other people think it sucks than your actively thinking the music is bad.

Man, cut the shrink talk. I just don't think Ting Ting is a great band

I'm more interested in being a third type of listener myself: the person who can get caught up in "fun, silly music" and "some nuanced indie rock album"--or "some nuanced" any kind of album. Limiting yourself to enjoying one type of record, or privileging one type of record exclusively over all others, is totally boring to me. Not that that's what anyone is calling for here, and not that I don't have many blindspots or proclivities to listen to certain types of music over others.

― ksh, Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:34 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

ya i was just responding to people who were all "ugh fad, this won't even be on the pitchfork end of year list," but ilxors are generally pretty cool in this regard. it's a bias you hear in a lot of criticism and discussion that i think is some bullshit, people devaluing immediacy over what i guess they think is maturity and restraint.

people devaluing immediacy over what i guess they think is maturity and restraint.

totally w/ you that this isn't a great attitude to have

a song like 'Rill Rill' would probably sound twee if you tear down all the red levels.

yeah, to my ears "Ring Ring" is kind of a modernized version of what Adventures in Stereo (the Primal Scream spinoff group) were doing in 1997, viz. layered, girly vocals & twee lyrics over samples of '60s-'70s pop songs. to be fair I don't get that impression from any other Sleigh Bells songs, and stuff like "Crown on the Ground" doesn't register with me as indiepop at all.

xpost

agreed x2, but the opposite attitude isn't much more defensible, i.e. devaluing a record because it's earnest and mature and some list somewhere called it "timeless," and refusing to engage critically with some other record because it makes you smile and bob your head today, in the here and now, man, and who gives a SHIT what it sounds like in six months.

the best attitude is to realize that a lot of great, fun music lacks replay value, and a lot of great, introspective music lacks immediacy. if a record gets low marks in one of the many categories on your music critic checklist, that doesn't mean it can't be pretty awesome.

the best attitude is to realize that a lot of great, fun music lacks replay value, and a lot of great, introspective music lacks immediacy.

OTM

and, sometimes it's the opposite way around too, of course

yeah, I mean if all you ever listen to is sullen singer-songwriter stuff, then the new Nick Drake album might rock your world the first time you hear it, whereas Weird Al's Poodle Hat could be a slow-burner that takes 50 listens and countless hours of poring over the lyrics sheet to reveal its wonders. it's a strange world.

the new Nick Drake album

O_O

oops, I revealed too much. just...forget it for now.

Hey are you guys talking about "Night Ripper" now?

is that a song about the Better Marriage Blanket or something?? O___O

Girl Talk.

is that a song about the Better Marriage Blanket or something?? O___O

― ksh, Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

haha

night ripper still bangs

still don't think i've listened to it. liked Feed The Animals the one time i heard it

it's a lot better

#2 album on iTunes right now, right after the new National record

btw: http://tinyurl.com/297jw7s

What's up with albums from dudes formerly in hardcore/screamo bands taking a ride on the Pfork disco stick lately? Dude quits Poison the Well, forms Sleigh Bells with kindergarten teacher = Best New Music. Dude quits American Nightmare/Give Up the Ghost, forms Cold Cave with noize dude and chick from Xiu Xiu = also highly regarded. Are there other examples of this recently?

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor)

wow, weird observation, but OTM nonetheless. i have another one to add: guitarist recently quits daughters, joins up with a little band called fang island. BNM on pfork as well.

#2 album on iTunes right now, right after the new National record

I thought you must have meant on the iTunes "indie' subcategory, but no, you are right. I think this kind of reflects the disparity between people who buy albums via iTunes versus people who buy singles via iTunes. The two charts are SO different.

http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/3654-thunder-lightning-strike.jpg

otm

totally

that album's great though

Pretty good! It can get wearing after a while, but it sounds amazing in short bursts. It's great when a track comes up on shuffle, they sound exhilarating then.
"Rill Rill" is my least favourite track by far, I prefer it when they really blow out, like on "Straight A's".

Oh, and "Rachel" sounds like Lush remixed by 2 Unlimited.

Listened to Treats for the first time yesterday - it made me feel old.

shit makes me feel old, and i'm only 22.

It makes me feel young and alive if anything tbh

Which Funkadelic song they 'sample' in 'Rill Rill'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rrOdcnFbAY

Well, 'Rill Rill' is almost like Soup Dragons doing I'm Free

This is growing on me. A lot.

pretty damn tedious listening, but ill keep on trying

have a heart

Hunt3r you give up on cycling but still trying to listen to sleigh bells? wtf

embrace the change, thats me