Pigfuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q65koj0fnA

^ Scott, do you know these guys?

still like chuck's "sasquatch rock" better than "grunge".

don't know fungus brains. will listen!

oh and that oz youtube thing is this:

1. Grong Grong - "Poor Herb"
2. The Poofters - "Wipe Out Yoor Whole Family"
3. Bushpig - "Rorting About"
4. No More Bandicoots - "Baby Botswana"

Fungus Brains were an offshoot of Dugald Mackenzie's Sick Things so part of the same Melbourne thing as Venom P Stinger.

So what was the relationship between those Oz bands and all the post-Birdman quasi-Detroit ones (Celibate Rifles, Lime Spiders, Died Pretty, New Christs, etc.)? Were they two different scenes? I definitely associated the Scientists with those bands at the time, and probably Feedtime too, but I was in Michigan. (Also, the Scientists went through so many changes in their sound, from post-Birthday Party psychobilly to way lighter powerpop, it was hard to figure out where they belonged.)

And again, people like Lester Bangs used "grunge" pretty often in Creem in the '70s (I used it in a Voice review of the Ramones' Too Tough To Die in '84, and I wasn't being original.) So it's not that weird that a bunch of bands would claim it in '83. (Though yeah, when I first heard Skin Yard/Melvins/Green River/U-Men etc. in '86 or so, I was calling that Seattle stuff Bigfoot Rock.)

Well, come to think of it, I guess it would make sense that Australia would have both a post-Radio Birdman scene and a post-Birthday Party scene. Though I'm betting they crossed paths a lot. (Unless, say, one was limited to Sydney and the other to Melbourne, or something.)

Trying to think who the points of connection would be, but it beats me. There's definitely a difference in stuff like the Celibate Rifles (non-pigfuck) and the Cosmic Psychos (uber-pigfuck) though.

grong grong were heavily influenced by the birthday party and the australian x. and american bands like flipper. i think there really were different camps. though probably everyone liked, you know, the stooges and stuff. mc5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wE5i4chtos

^ actually maybe they're not scuzzy enough but has there been a more pigfuck video? (nsfw btw)

I'm glad someone fondly remembers Silverfish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhxiewNTAEI

blue (they were from philly, awesome + totally unsung, I think ian digs them too)

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awesome band! picked up a copy of their solid state lp a while back. singer's got a weird, nasally voice, reminiscent of reverb motherfuckers guy (and steel pole bath tub guy), but nerdier and sometimes quite annoying. paint peeling guitar noise redeems everything, though. woozy druggy and not consistently harsh/fucked-up enough to really square w pigfuck in my book, but def worth a listen. features an epic, super psychedelic cover of brian wilson's "baby let your hair grow long".

also u-men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWxS48yOwfI&feature=related

bad vid, but they're not well documented

yeah, love blue. I've got two of the demo tapes they released in the early 90s. I should dig 'em out and upload, here's a track from one for the curious.

http://www.mediafire.com/?122dygmyqg0

fungus brains getting reissued on load records is what I heard

That is a fine act of human kindness