It wasn't unnecessary shit-talking about his ex, though. It was, if anything, an honest portrayal of the emotions one often feels after a break-up ("It's your fault," "You're a bitch and a slut," "You're never going to find anyone who will treat you as good as I did," "Fuck you, once again, you slut"), even if these emotions are emotions we're taught not to externalize, especially on pop songs. They might be asshole things to say, but if he really felt them, why shouldn't he include them in his song? I think they added to the sense that 'Ye really was hit hard, and this was the way he reacted. It was a portrait of a really brief period after a break-up before, you know, distance and insight occur (whether that ever did occur for Kanye is another matter).
― rennavate, Thursday, 13 May 2010 20:53 (sixteen years ago)
I don't want to put up with the dude at the bar who wants to tell me about the bitch who did him wrong either!
― i am giving you the viking of compliments (The Reverend), Friday, 14 May 2010 08:50 (sixteen years ago)
Hey, if he writes melodies like 'Ye does on 808s, I would happily.
― rennavate, Friday, 14 May 2010 20:16 (sixteen years ago)
Yes, but he doesn't...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:17 (sixteen years ago)
Oh wait nevermind I thought we were back to talking about Drake again.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:18 (sixteen years ago)
nah this thread hasn't been about Drake since you guys histrionically ran to Kanye's defense
― itt tech (some dude), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:24 (sixteen years ago)
No histrionics on my behalf, good sir!
With that said, I do think the melody on "Find Your Love" is realy lovely, and the way Drake hits the higher note when he sings "heart" in the chorus -- I love it.
― rennavate, Friday, 14 May 2010 20:29 (sixteen years ago)
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Stilted ones that don't go anywhere?
― i am giving you the viking of compliments (The Reverend), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:55 (sixteen years ago)
Exactly. Thanks, Geir!
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 20:57 (sixteen years ago)
i saw a UFC dude come into the ring to a kanye 808s song, that kinda made sense
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 14 May 2010 21:01 (sixteen years ago)
plz say it was "Pinocchio Story"
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Friday, 14 May 2010 21:02 (sixteen years ago)
haha sorry, no it was "amazing"
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 14 May 2010 21:12 (sixteen years ago)
can't remember the dude, it was on the undercard of the PPV where brock lesner won and then freaked out and did some WWE heel style rant after and got in trouble for shitting on the beer sponser on air
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 14 May 2010 21:13 (sixteen years ago)
― i am giving you the viking of compliments (The Reverend), Friday, May 14, 2010 2:55 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark
I think they're pretty great; really primal melodies that just smack you across the face. For me, at least.
― rennavate, Friday, 14 May 2010 21:53 (sixteen years ago)
"primal melodies that just smack you across the face" and "stilted melodies that don't go anywhere" don't really seem like mutually exclusive descriptions, just ones that come with different value judgements.
― itt tech (some dude), Friday, 14 May 2010 21:54 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, thinking something is melodically inept makes me geir! you got it! gold star for you!
― i am giving you the viking of compliments (The Reverend), Saturday, 15 May 2010 01:59 (sixteen years ago)
WOOHOO!!!!
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:22 (sixteen years ago)
i never much cared about kanye being a "dick" -- we listen to rap music right? i mean
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:27 (sixteen years ago)
never bothered me but it's pretty clear kanye is a different kind of dick than most other rappers
― samosa gibreel, Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:30 (sixteen years ago)
yeah idk -- i kinda skimmed this thread cuz i'm tired of this discussion anyway so i have nothing to respond to
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:32 (sixteen years ago)
anyway i still dig "find your love"
on 808s, kanye is a dick in the way that the dashboard confessional is a dick. fuck outta here.
― i am giving you the viking of compliments (The Reverend), Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:33 (sixteen years ago)
dashboard confessional dude
i like 808s and heartbreak and i do not like this new drake song
― samosa gibreel, Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:36 (sixteen years ago)
mostly i just think 808s has great music -- the basis of the songs is an afterthought to me anyway because it's emotionally infantile, undercooked & full of platitudes -- again, that doesn't bother me but i see how it could turn others off -- i believe i've said this before but my view of 808s is def colored in a positive way because of how it fits into kanye's career -- it's much more interesting to me as a major pop album -- eventually it hit me on as base a musical level as possible, but there's def a different element to it that i dig
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:58 (sixteen years ago)
tbh tho like, personally i find myself being affected by dudes off-record personas more than their on record -- like, 50 cent being a dick irl kinda made me not want to listen to his music, regardless of what he was saying on record -- i can deal with kanye's "dickishness" (even tho it comes off to me in a rather normal & non-offensive way) because i find him to be a compelling off-record persona/pop star -- i don't judge it based on "he's annoying on this record"
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 04:01 (sixteen years ago)
J0rdan ridiculously OTM re: 808s.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 15 May 2010 04:49 (sixteen years ago)
I don't like it musically, though.
― i am giving you the viking of compliments (The Reverend), Saturday, 15 May 2010 06:01 (sixteen years ago)
Fair play, R. I think it's musically really engaging for me, even if I sort of agree with J0rdan on the bit about 'Ye's songwriting. But I think it's strong on the record too, and I've explained why in the past. I just think it's a great record. I like College Dropout and Graduation better, but I like 808s more than Late Registration.
― rennavate, Saturday, 15 May 2010 07:44 (sixteen years ago)
kanye seems like way more of a dick IRL than 50
― itt tech (some dude), Saturday, 15 May 2010 10:15 (sixteen years ago)
thank me later version of "shut it down" -- http://hulkshare.com/vqmrw64rpuf8 -- has a full dream verse apparently, also some other different flourishes
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 May 2010 09:39 (sixteen years ago)
demo version >>>>
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 May 2010 09:42 (sixteen years ago)
dream's actual verse is lame & this adds a drake rap verse, which...
glad the one drake song i actually liked has been ruined
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Saturday, 29 May 2010 19:06 (sixteen years ago)
wtf is w/ these "ay"s on the chorus
― pearsonic, Monday, 31 May 2010 03:31 (sixteen years ago)
is there ANY enthusiasm for this dude amongst people we know? i don't think i knew anyone who particularly rated him but i'm seeing a lot more annoyance that his career appears to still be going strong these days. i don't understand why one would actively be a fan of him.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 31 May 2010 09:22 (sixteen years ago)
guys like Caramanica and Fennessey seem to be riding pretty hard for him
― Christina NAGLera (some dude), Monday, 31 May 2010 09:38 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPUa0RsSP4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB5cjzVtm5g
NAGL lebron :(
― pokám0n (dyao), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)
Somehow this doesn't surprise me at all.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 16:51 (sixteen years ago)
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, May 31, 2010 3:22 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
I like Drake a lot, actually, but I'm no Caramanica and Fennessey so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't think he's the BEST RAPPER ALIVE!! or that his album will be a classic (far from it) but I think he's fun. Although, really, he's no "fun" at all. He doesn't seem like he knows how to have a good time, you know?
― rennavate, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:16 (sixteen years ago)
there are definitely a lot of people who are on the "he's not bad, Best I Ever Had is a great pop song" tip, but i think we're talking about hardcore acolytes who think he's A Big Deal For Good Reason
― Truollmas (some dude), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:18 (sixteen years ago)
I think Drake' kind of a big deal (no Clipse) but not necessarily for the reason that he's a stud rapper.
― rennavate, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:35 (sixteen years ago)
well yeah, i'm talking about people that don't have to stifle a laugh at lines like ALL HAIL MR. LYRICAL
― Truollmas (some dude), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:49 (sixteen years ago)
listening to the leaked joint with jay... dude just has a really unlistenable voice -- shit is so whiny
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2010 04:22 (sixteen years ago)
he basically is Yung Berg's vocal doppelganger imo
― Truollmas (some dude), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 10:20 (sixteen years ago)
So, thoughts on the album? I've twittered a bunch of mine already, but haven't heard most of you guys'.
― rennavate, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 23:30 (sixteen years ago)
so horrible
― cutty, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 23:46 (sixteen years ago)
hes a shitty rapper. end of story
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 23:51 (sixteen years ago)
forget rapping. he has no talent whatsoever.
― cutty, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 23:54 (sixteen years ago)
can't think of a single reason why i'd take the time to listen to it
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 23:57 (sixteen years ago)