does tom petty have any redeeming qualities?

dads know about kate bush for some bizarre reason

because her music is the dadrockiest music ever, that's why

"Nightwatchman" and "Woman In Love" are enough to redeem

i have a vague memory of adapting "nightwatchman" into some kind of graphic-novel form as part of a middle-school project, but i can't for the life of me remember what or why.

"woman in love" is one of my petty faves. mostly for the way he says, "well awright...do whadchoo want...don' say a word, don' say naaaaa-thin'"

kate bush's music is definitely not what i would consider dadrock, in the made-up, cliche sense of the term

Is Kate Bush dadrockier than Lucinda Williams?

I'm fairly certain that my dad has not heard of Kate Bush. I have just barely heard of Kate Bush, and even that's after hanging around Kate Bush fans on ILX for years

my dad is the dad-rockiest dad of all time, and he HATED "American Girl" the first time he saw TP&tHs play on TV; he was all "so she was an American girl, what about it? there are a LOT of American girls!"

"woman in love" is one of my petty faves. mostly for the way he says, "well awright...do whadchoo want...don' say a word, don' say naaaaa-thin'"

And see now, I love it for the little fill Mike Campbell plays right after that. Two great tastes...

but they really just seem to be selling to a previously esablished fan base

I should clarify: obviously the Beatles, Stones, Zep, Pink Floyd etc, continue to sell to young kids who are just discovering classic rock, but I would imagine it tends to be records from their heyday. I wouldn't think a lot of teens were running out to buy Bridges to Babylon, Flaming Pie or the Page/ Plant thing.

but I could be wrong.

lucinda is DEFINITELY more dadrock than kate, like by miles and miles i feel

he was all "so she was an American girl, what about it? there are a LOT of American girls!"

Yeah that whole thing of "she was an American Girl"...you get the feeling it's really just for marketing purposes that he even says that. Like you know, supposedly it'll help the song get further in the charts or be more memorable that way, whatever the agenda is. It's fuckin' cheesy, man.

That said, like Curtis I particularly appreciate Don't Come Around Here No More (though he did have a bit of help from Dave Stewart didn't he? I mean he wouldn't have done that by himself) and oh...let's see..."You Got Lucky" is quite good, too. Hell, in a drunken moment I'll even admit to appreciating Free Fallin'. But still it's like the best I can say about him is that he's NOT John Cougar Melloncamp or some other similar, much worse artist. He's like the lesser of two or more evils.

And see now, I love it for the little fill Mike Campbell plays right after that. Two great tastes...

was ipodding the heartbreakers today because of this thread and remembered another great thing is the patented stan lynch drum fill. the one that leapt out at me is coming out of the bridge on "don't do me like that," but he does variations on the same thing a lot. it's a kind of stop-start stop-start on the toms that usually ends in a triplet roll.

Bimble you are not OTM. Petty and Mellencamp have given us some fine American pop hooks. If you cannot hear that then I feel for you brother.

But still it's like the best I can say about him is that he's NOT John Cougar Melloncamp or some other similar, much worse artist.

Except that Mellencamp is a great artist and has made a couple of terrific records.

hating on american girl? jesus people...

dadrock is cool, dad's like a lot of cool music. my pop (RIP) liked CCR and the Stones and Jefferson Airplane.

bimble i generally appreciate yr enthusiasm but man oh man, you are RONG to the nth degree re: both petty and mellencamp

Good god Jess, have you never been in a CAR?
-- Josh, Tuesday, January 1, 2002 1:00 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

i always think the second line of 'american girl' is 'raised on barber sex'

i don't know what the actual line is, perhaps it's better that way

raised on PROMISES, LEARN ENGLISH YOU LIMEY RETARD

(jkbtw)

also, when i were a nipper i always thought the opening minute of 'louisiana rain' was the most experimental, avant-garde minute of music EVER RECORDED, i haven't heard the song since then, is it still true?

american girl is so good it was even good the second time when it was last nite by the strokes!

srsly

har, "raised on barber sex" that's awesome. xpost.
but anyway, let me add my voice to support Mr. Petty. Tons of good-to-great songs over the years. Also, as someone mentioned above, a gateway to a lot of stellar music -- got into Bob Dylan, the Byrds, the Beatles (seriously!) and a bunch of other stuff because of listening to him when I was nine or 10 years old. I recently checked out his last few albums from the library ("Echo", "Last DJ" and "Highway Companion") and was surprised at how solid they are. OK, "Last DJ" has some of the shittiest stuff I've ever heard from him, but there are 3-4 cool tracks. Kind of surprising how depressing a lot of it is though...What happened to the old jokester in the top hat?

hating on american girl?

It's just the normal noises in here.

I know the halftime show producers are just trying to play it safe, but ffs.

Was it really bad? I can't bring myself to watch the game.

He didn't bring out some interesting guest stars, at least?

A surprise appearance from the rest of the Wilburys would have been nice.

He was terrible! I knew he'd do the crowd pleasers, but Mike Campbell played with more commitment.

Its hard to top Prince doing Purple Rain in the rain

he could have performed "Free Falling" while leaping to his timely death

i like a lot of his songs.

beard is not one of his redeeming qualities

I would have liked zombie Roy Orbison

weird bit: I bought Through the Years last Monday, having no idea that he was doing this shit.

He's very . . . meh (these days at least). WHY NOT GHOSTFACE KILLA FOR THE SUPER BOWL HALFTIME SHOW?

next year: Glass Tiger!

Tom Petty has so many great songs, this thread is ridiculous.

i'm thinking so. I can't honestly say I know a single thing he's put out in 10+ years but come on

He has a few good songs (e.g., a few singles from Damn The Torpedos, You Got Lucky). But beyond that, he has lots of merely workmanlike, serviceable stuff.

Next Year: Glass Tiger and GhostFace. Good combo.

he does have loads of great songs -- after listening to this two-disc thing -- but I wish he didn't them. A buddy has always wished that George Harrison had sung "Don't Come Around Here No More." At least his voice wouldn't try to sing over the sitars and drum machines.

4 hour peter bogdanovich doc about TP coming soon!

not kidding!

* I wish he didn't SING them

(xxpos)

I like Petty fine, but god that was dull. A twenty-minute "Rockin' Lunch" block from classic rock radio.

not kidding!

I wish to hell you were.

remy otm. They should have borrowed the Big Screen Elvis technology from the TCB band and reanimated Roy.

I wonder if Bogdanovich can imitate classic rockers like he can old film directors?

Frankly, I could do without the elaborate Super Bowl halftime show. I prefer it more as a game and less as an event. Of course, I'm not even watching it this year (as I hate the Patriots so).

I think the easter egg on the DVD version of the Bogdano Petty doc is going to be PB's masterful imos of all the departed Wilburys.

the Bogdanovich doc is already out, I watched it on cable the other night. i liked it, but then i wish all episodes of Classic Albums or Behind The Music were 4 hours long.

this thread is probably the most RONG that Jess has ever been.