Landed has become one of my favorite Can records in the last couple of years.I like it more than Soon Over Babaluma, even, which is sacrilege in some circles.It's more fun.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I've never understood the love for Soon Over Babaluma. Of the later records I much prefer Landed and Saw Delight.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Tarot is a really interesting record, but always struck me more as a curiosity than as something to love.
I've not ever heard Landed! Does this strike me out of Can fandom?
― emil.y, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I hadn't heard it until the last round of reissues, I think you're okay.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think any of the post-Damo records are essential. They are usually spotty and, if you've listened to early Can first, tend to be underwhelming. But in my opinion they do contain some great music.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Agreed
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I do really like Soon Over Babaluma. And, while not strictly Can, there have been very few records made as preposterous* as 'Cool in the Pool'.
*This is a good thing.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I was put off by people from listening past the "classic" era but ignore them, some good stuff was made.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
My experience of the 'latter' Can period was limited to the second CD of "Anthology", where tracks went by without registering until "I want more" kicked in...
We'll see...
― Mark G, Thursday, 13 May 2010 07:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes. I'd put Saw Delight and Can in my top five Can albums, maybe Landed too. Tago and Ege would be in there from the 'classic period'. I'm a little bored with Future Days. Reebop and Rosko certainly brought the funk!
What's Out Of Reach like? - I've never heard it, or even knowingly seen a copy, but I think I might like it :)
― Dr.C, Thursday, 13 May 2010 08:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, "Soon Over Babaluma" has gradually become my favourite Can album (it's certainly the one I play most), so I can't agree there!
Holger's absence is keenly felt I think, it's really murky and muddy sounding and cluttered and sort of incontinent - it's not a total disaster though.
― "The Nail on the Bannister" by R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link
soon over babaluma has the best side 2 of all can albums.
― nonightsweats, Thursday, 13 May 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link
^ the truth
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 11:38 (fourteen years ago) link
This ("Vuh") is a deep droning track that ambient artists 30 years later would have been proud to make
Track is pretty violent IMO, not very ambient at all!
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Future Days is my fave these days
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 13 May 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link
future days has always been my fave. it's gorgeous.
― original bgm, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Mine used to be Tago Mago but Future Days has taken over the past few years.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
This ("Vuh") is a deep droning track that ambient artists 30 years later would have been proud to makeTrack is pretty violent IMO, not very ambient at all!
― fit and working again, Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
(The Rother stuff in particular veers from average to dreadful and back.)
u r nuts IMO- I'm choosing a Michael Rother album when my week comes round...
― Neil S, Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
worth checking out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B89-69icyc&feature=related
― Brio, Thursday, 13 May 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link
hah, this is exactly what I was thinking. I may even prefer rother solo! (I like neu! and all but find all of their albums a little patchy)
― original bgm, Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
this kraftwerk documentary has tons of cool krautrock footage and reminiscing from various players:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289806/
― original bgm, Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
the documentary on BBC3 was pretty good.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 13 May 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know man, the guitars on a lot of that Rother stuff is straight cheese.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 13 May 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Well hopefully my pick will persuade you otherwise...
― Neil S, Friday, 14 May 2010 08:20 (fourteen years ago) link
19/05 - ilxor26/05 - Neil S2/06 - Tom D (provisionally)9/06 - pfunkboy16/06- GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ23/06 - Von Kelson30/06 - emil.y7/07 - Matt #214/07 - Alan N
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 14 May 2010 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link
My turn next, huh?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 14 May 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
yup, hope you've managed to whittle your shortlist down to 3
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 14 May 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Just about got to the last 'side' of Weg.
― Mark G, Friday, 14 May 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
did you like it?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 15 May 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
This is odd because I have recently listened to all three of these records recently without even opening this thread.
I can't say much of "Tarot" has ended up sticking with me, even though it sounded great the first time I heard it. As for Popol Vuh, I really enjoy "Affenstunde" and kinda wish Flortian would've stayed all electronic - nothing from Garten and Hosianna Mantra has really struck me in comparison.
I've always been perplexed by "Landed" - it's the only Can album that I've not been able to get into. Something about the vocals and the production really grates on me. On the other hand, I'd like to put in a good word for Flow Motion, Saw Delight, and Can, which I think are all very good and are deserving of a better reputation.
― Michael F Gill, Saturday, 15 May 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Did I like it...
It was ...nnn... alright.
I can see that if the KRock vein had been mined dry by an afficionado, this album's rediscovery might comeas a joy to them, there was nothing I hated about it, it hadquite a few 'take notice' bits, and ran nicely by. Walter came across as a nice bloke throughout (the track1 introducing the band was a nice touch and funny with it), and side 4 was a highlight, definitely.
Blimey, am I going to be able to keep up with three albums a week? It's work, jim, but not as we know it.
― Mark G, Saturday, 15 May 2010 08:38 (fourteen years ago) link
OK, let's chart them..
1. Viva2. Walter3. Phallus4. Ashra
All very close together, and nothing below a line that is set at 'good'
― Mark G, Saturday, 15 May 2010 08:39 (fourteen years ago) link
OK, thanks to this thread I played Landed for probably the first time in 20 years, and it's really good! Probably they'd settled into a groove of making "Can records" by this point, but I could think of worse things to make, and how many bands are still coming up with something worthwhile on their seventh album?
The Popol Vuh sounds great in a church, as talked about here
― Matt #2, Saturday, 15 May 2010 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link
tarot - a curious record. i remember when i 1st heard about it on blogs a couple of years back and enjoyed it well enough after dload. but it never seemed as good to me as other people stated. less an uncovered gem than a reasonable facsimile of one. i listened to it on the weekend again and it passed by pleasantly enough. some parts are definitely very good but overall it's mighty patchy.
― nonightsweats, Monday, 17 May 2010 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Deutsche Elektronische Musik; Experimental German Rock and Electronic Music 1972-83
Soul Jazz Records
Tracklisting
1. Can — Aspectacle 2. Between — Devotion 3. Harmonia — Dino 4. Gila — This Morning 5. Kollectiv — Rambo Zambo 6. Michael Bundt — La Chasse Aux Microbes 7. E.M.A.K — Filmmusik 8. Popol Vuh — Morgengruss 9. Conrad Schnitzler — Auf Dem Schwarzen Kanal 10. La Düsseldorf — Rheinita 11. Harmonia — Veterano 12. Faust — It's A Rainy Day, Sunshine Girl 13. Neu! — Hallo Gallo 14. Cluster — Heisse Lippen 15. Ibliss — Hi Life 16. Dieter Moebius — Hasenheide 17. Amon Duul II — Fly United 18. Popol Vuh — Aguirre 1 19. Ash Ra Tempel — Daydream 20. Tangerine Dream — No Man's Land 21. Amon Duul II — Wie Der Wind Am Ende Einer Strasse 22. Roedelius — Geradewohl 23. Can — I Want More 24. Deuter — Soham
― sam500, Monday, 17 May 2010 06:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Working through the Can album now.
Track 2 sounds like a Pulp demo!
― Mark G, Monday, 17 May 2010 08:28 (fourteen years ago) link
By the way, a bit of (title track of) "Viva" was played in that drama about Boy George that was on BBC2 last night
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Monday, 17 May 2010 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah!
(post now to be reposted on a diff thread)
― Mark G, Monday, 17 May 2010 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link
didnt see it
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link
19/05 - ilxor26/05 - Neil S2/06 - Tom D 9/06 - pfunkboy16/06- GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ23/06 - Von Kelson30/06 - emil.y7/07 - Matt #214/07 - Alan N
anyone else want in?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't realize that week two had already gone into effect. I have never heard any Walter Wegmuller before and plan to tackle that link tomorrow.
― Barry Soetoro the marlboro man (van smack), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Just got to the end of "Landed"..
I can see why people got underwhelmed by latter period Can, all that groundbreaking work early on, and a good quantity of albums, leaves the later ones less important.
Having said that, if this album and the second LP of Tago Mago were swapped, TM would still be highly regarded as a classic, save for "untitled" which has a lack of creativity in it's title, and is less 'out-there' than "Augm", but the other more 'traditional' songs make up for it in some ways.
Anyway, onwards to Popol Vuh..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 08:56 (fourteen years ago) link
listened to wegmuller last night and it didn't impress me. sloppy hippie mess. though there is a lot to digest so i'm gonna give it another try
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 11:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Today, ilxor?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Tonight, I suppose. After work. If I can get my act together and pick a few albums.
Herman, can you assist with Spotify links?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Albums selected. I will post ASAP.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Alright, sticking to three decently well-known "classics" this time around.
Faust - Faust (1971)
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AMG review:
The impact of Faust cannot be overstated; their debut album was truly a revolutionary step forward in the progress of "rock music". It was pressed on clear vinyl, packaged in a clear sleeve, with a clear plastic lyric insert. The black X-ray of a fist on the cover graphically illustrates the hard core music contained in the grooves, an amalgamation of electronics, rock, tape edits, acoustic guitars, musique concrete, and industrial angst. The level of imagination is staggering, the concept is totally unique and it's fun to listen to as well.
Cluster - Sowiesoso (1976)
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The evocative toybox melodies (usually the Roedelius compositions) on 1974's Zuckerzeit reached their peak with Sowiesoso, courtesy of ambling pieces like "Dem Wanderer," the title track, and the vaguely Oriental "Halwa." The drum programs are still irresistibly simplistic (not to say simple), but even when Sowiesoso stretches out into primarily beatless terrain ("Es War Einmal," "Zum Wohl"), the album retains its power.
Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4 (1984)
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E2-E4, one of the few records Göttsching released under his own name, has earned its place as one of the most important, influential electronic records ever released. It's also the earliest album to set the tone for electronic dance music; simply put, it just sounds like the mainstream house produced during the next two decades. Similar to previous Ashra albums like New Age of Earth and Blackouts, it does so with a short list of instruments -- just the nominal drum machine and a pulsing guitar line in the background plus some light synthesizer work. What sets it apart from music that came before is a steadfast refusal to follow the popular notions of development in melody and harmony. Instead, E2-E4 continues working through similar territory for close to an hour with an application to trance-state electronics missing from most of the music that preceded it. Though the various components repeat themselves incessantly, it's how they interact and build that determines the sound -- and that's the essence of most electronic dance music, that complex interplay between several repetitive elements.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
My thoughts to come later.
By the way, if anyone could help out with links, that would be appreciated. I don't f/w downloads at all myself, so not well versed in that process... and also don't have Spotify access, of course.
Thanks all!
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
great picks - love the cluster and gottsching!
so, I was just listening to e2-24 last weekend. curious about how the guitar goes over w/new listeners...
― original bgm, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link