does tom petty have any redeeming qualities?

I quite like DCAHNM, it's very airy

yeah, dude, don't come around here no more is a pretty rad song.

petty does sing it weird, but i like that -- what a weird vocal to have on a hit song!

Matt I think a large part of it comes from how you and I have very (VERY) different relationships to whatever could be called classic rock. Your post on the Silkworm thread about how you literally grew up with it all around you thanks to your dad, balanced out by all the newer stuff that gave you a different focus on how older sounds and styles could be reworked into something distinctly different, is a very strong articulation of your own aesthetic. But that aesthetic is not mine -- classic rock as something consciously pursued only lasted a year in high school for me, while Petty's early eighties hits are part of a free-flowing mix of many different sounds. And in both cases I have nostalgic memories by default, but no need to actively plunge back into a past that doesn't have a real hold on me any more.

I always get excited when I hear the beginning of DCAHNM, because it sounds really good, but then after a minute or so I remember I don't really like it much as a song.

i remember when i saw tom petty in 7th grade and they played Don't Come Around Here ... at the end during the rave-up, a knight in armor chased tom around the stage, but he defeated him with a big peace symbol.

I always get excited when I hear the beginning of DCAHNM, because it sounds really good, but then after a minute or so I remember I don't really like it much as a song.

^^^ yep. I tried to explain in a long post last December how this neo-psychedelia in which Dave Stewart trafficked put an electro sheen to a reactionary ethos (Mick Jagger, Dylan, and Daryl Hall would work with Stewart in the same period); it's connected to the sudden mainstream press' interest in American sounds and rockabilly (Lone Justice, Jason and the Scorchers, etc).

xpost -- Might as well have put THAT in the Burton film.

All this said, DCAHNM is nowhere NEAR as good as I Won't Back Down

I'm fond of Into the Great Wide Open.

http://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/unspooled-a-rebel-with-too-many-clues/

the Tory hires his idea of a Liberal to form a coalition government, ignorant of the fact that hanging out with George Harrison and Bob Dylan tends to contaminate one’s ideas of progress

it's like you knew

"Change Of Heart" is a deeper cut that I think is pretty great.

"Change Of Heart" is a deeper cut that I think is pretty great.

OTM. Riff is one of the first things I learned to play when I was discovering the magic of power chords.

yeah there's something that hits my heart about the weird way the chorus resolves after the "there's been a cha-ye-ay-ye-aynge" to the "there's been a change of heart"

Another great obscure Tom Petty song, No Second Thoughts from You're Gonna Get It. That could be a hit today.

I was really into the dylan/heartbreakers song "band of the hand" when I was a kid, kind of afraid to listen to it now, it won't live up

stop draggin my heart around > don't come around here

band of the hand is def. one of the best 80s Dylan tracks! is it even available on CD?

no idea - just remember a big ragged chorus and something about Hell

"it's hellllltime, man," i think is what they're singing.

Anyway speaking of synths

http://www.emusic.com/features/spotlight/2010_201005-essay-melancholy-synth.html

band of the hand is def. one of the best 80s Dylan tracks! is it even available on CD?

Nope. A one-off, produced by Petty, recorded in Australia.

Band Of The Hand...the Dylanettes sure go to town on that one. So many killer lyrics too. I love the line "so erotic, so unpatriotic, so wrapped up in the American flag."

yeah, it's a cool song ... weird that Dylan and the Heartbreakers never really made a proper album together, even though they toured all over the world for a year or two.

Fwiw, it also leads off 1986's Band Of The Hand soundtrack -- worth picking up if you see it cheap, since it also has five songs by eternally underrated '80s Pennsylvania new wave metal band the Reds.

and there's a CD of that soundtrack? i always thought it was just on tape/LP ...

No idea. I just have it on cassette myself.

from wiki: The song was released on the soundtrack album, Band of the Hand (MCA-6167, 1986) and also as both a 45 rpm 7” single (MCA-52811, 1986) and as 12” single (MCA-23633, 1986)
also, apparently stevie nicks is singing backup on it! you learn something every day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JLoO1S3-QE

I like this a log: drunken caterwauling!

I like this log.

Yes.

totally lives up! I like this a log too.

"Listen to me Mr. Pussyman
This might be your last night in a bed so soft"

as far as his collaborations go, i like this one too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1fnyjLyqNc

Do you ever wake up @ 3 AM and you're like "I'm freeeeeeefaaaaaaalliiiinn"? O_O

thoughts on mudcrutch? i thought it sounded pretty good on one listen; nice production.

sorta forgot about that one, but i should probably check it out. the original mudcrutch recordings on petty's box set are pretty sweet.

REFUGEE YALL

Don't do me like that, don't do me like that.

great use of petty music: "the waiting" in the simpsons episode where homer buys a gun

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiting is the haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaardeeeeeeessssssst paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrt

don't think i realized how rapey "breakdown" really is until i threw on Greatest Hits for the first time in years last week

the version of "breakdown" from the live box is f'in sweeeeeet

REFUGEE YALL

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refugee is the best song ever for intentionally bad singing along

basically i just have to give Mudcrutch some mad rock band naming props...it's like...damn what a 70s rock band from the south name...it's almost too much

wishbone ash is kinda like that for me, like that name couldn't be more 70s longhair british dudes

what is a mudcrutch anyway?

If we need a calendar date when the melancholy synth begins, it's March 13, 2001, the day Discovery, by Paris's Daft Punk, was released.

god fucking dammit people

who said that? kanye?

who else besides petty and dylan rocked the long slender earring in the late 80s? billy idol? i vaguely recall a recurring character on diff'rent strokes

"American Girl" is a great song.

BBC4 has been showing that documentary.

4 HOURS!! blimey.

Saw about 20 mins of it, nothing wrong with the bit I saw, but still..

The documentary's good -- a perfect antidote for a hungover Sunday.

Was always interested in that, but never saw it. He was pretty dull on Saturday Night Live this past weekend though.