i) it does not really sound like it's by B&S; there are many bands in the world who don't sound like B&S so I don't really see the point of B&S becoming one of them.
ii) my suspicion is that the best thing about the record is the production - i.e. the songwriting is not very good. My opinion on this may change. This does not stop me enjoying the record.
I've not really made up my mind on this album.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 13 October 2003 10:40 (twenty years ago) link
I think I quite like it.
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Monday, 13 October 2003 11:18 (twenty years ago) link
also on dear catastrophe waitress (the song) struan sings "town" and "clown" just like nico on femme fatale.
i think i like the album, but it does tail off a bit, esp if you find yourself caught in love which has horrendously trite lyrics.
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:13 (twenty years ago) link
I don't know whether the b&s practice of writing songs which are performed on Peel sessions or live but don't come out on records (or at least, don't for years and years) is something that a lot of bands do, but I don't get to hear about it coz I'm not into them as much, or whether b&s really do this more than anyone else. It is frustrating tho....I mean, I can understand why they delayed the release of Tigermilking on CD until '99 as the mystique surrounding the limited vinyl pressing did the band a lot of favours and stringing us along for so long contributed to b&s's success, but there is a bafflingly long list of unreleased songs. Ppl go on about Rhoda, presumably as it's the oldest, but what about Paper Boat, Magic of a Kind Word, Miraculous Technique? These 3 songs are better than most of the songs on DCW, IMHO.
The danger of doing this is that the live recording which we have heard becomes the standard in our minds and if the eventual release lacks something which we thought made the live versh great, then disappointment is the inevitable result. For example, I much prefer the versh of Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner performed on The Tube to the sparser recorded versh which eventually appeared.
― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:52 (twenty years ago) link
With regards to live gigs, some of the live sets I've heard are *very* good, far better than the album versions in some cases, plus there's the usually interesting cover versions. Paris from last year is especially good (I recorded it myself but thesound quality in that place was fantastic, and the songs were all good)
― chris (chris), Monday, 13 October 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link
'Magic Of A Kind Word' - rubbishy and probably written by departed Campbell
'Miraculous Technique' - pretty good. Maybe it will come out eventually, like 'Lord Anthony' and 'The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner' did.
'Pocketbook Angel' - good but I guess Murdoch sees it as part of his juvenilia now. Especially as it contains that 'ooh arr - it's full of silicon chips', which doesn't really sit well with his new iPod and DVD kitted technodad image. 'Hurley's Having Dreams' is better anyway.
'Shoot The Sexual Athlete' is the best of all.
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 13 October 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 13 October 2003 14:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 October 2003 14:58 (twenty years ago) link
Mark E H *wishes* he remembers.
― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 13 October 2003 15:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 October 2003 15:23 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 13 October 2003 16:04 (twenty years ago) link
― David. (Cozen), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 10:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:38 (twenty years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 23:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 30 October 2003 17:25 (twenty years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 30 October 2003 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 20 June 2004 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Sunday, 20 June 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 20 June 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 20 June 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― shut up, Sunday, 20 June 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 20 June 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
video is here btw: http://www.xfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=27910
― koogs (koogs), Monday, 21 June 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 21 June 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link
'Stu-Pod Buys the Farm'
!!!
???
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 21 June 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 05:43 (nineteen years ago) link
I always assume it's Chris Geddes behind all these experiments.
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 06:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 08:45 (nineteen years ago) link
The last single had a cool DVD edition, basically exactly the same as the 4 track CD single with videos for two tracks (cunning to hide the vid at the end of the third track (that's actually two tracks in one, yeah?))
The last single reawakened my appr. for B&S after downloading a few storyteller tracks and going oh forget it.
So, If the single is as great as all that, I shall buy the album. At fopp. if.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 09:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:01 (nineteen years ago) link
and I said "That has to be "in the country", surely...
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, I have never heard 'In The Country'. What is it really like?
I think I must still like Belle & Sebastian.
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 10:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Baaaba ba ba baaaaba ba ba baaaaba ba ba baaaa
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Otis Wheeler (Otis Wheeler), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Tip of the hat, indeed. The sauce!
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Pf it's the one that goes "you're going to find me, out in the country" and going on about it's where the weather's fine etc
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Are you people saying that B&S are releasing a new song, as a new single?
The other day, on the Ross show, they talked about Ken Bruce. Did you hear it?
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link
pinefox - I don't know it either.
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Wow!
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
PF, you probably know it as an old DFS furniture superstore advert from the 1970s. Their shops were so big they had to locate them 'out in the country'.
Let me see if I can find the lyrics. It's a good song by Cliff standards, or indeed any standards. Maybe it's time for a Cliff revival:------------------------------------In The Country
When the world in which you're livingGets a bit too much to bearAnd you need someone to lean onWhen you look there's no one there
You're gonna find me out in the country, yeahYou're gonna find me way out in the countryWhere the air is good, and the day is fineAnd a pretty girl has her hand in mineAnd the silver stream is the poor man's wineIn the country, in the country
If you're walkin' in the cityAnd you're feelin' rather smallAnd the people on the sidewalkSeem to form a solid wall
You're gonna find me, hey, out in the countryYou're gonna find me, hey, out in the countryWhere the air is good and the day is fineAnd a pretty girl has her hand in mineAnd the silver stream is the poor man's wineIn the country, in the country
Hurry, hurry, hurryFor time is slipping by, you don't need a ticketIt belongs to you and I, come on and join me, heyOut in the country
Where the air is good, and the day is fineAnd the pretty girl has her hand in mineAnd the silver stream is the poor man's wineIn the country, in the country------------------------------It's a bit like The Housemartins. And a bit like Blur. The Farmers Boys did a cover version.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
I still like Belle And Sebastian a lot, despite liking fewer and fewer of their recent songs. I think I quite like 'Your Cover's Blown'. Luckily it is nothing like the nme's "Indie Bohemian Rhapsody" remark.
― Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 08:42 (nineteen years ago) link