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Well, when I first got my iPod last year, I was able to add a few wav files to it and play them, so I know it can be done. I suppose it's possible that iTunes updates might prevent this now though?? Anyway, yes I had considered the idea that perhaps I'm not converting the FLAC files correctly, but this seems improbable because I've tried converting them to wav, mp3 and aiff (using Switch) and none of these will play on the Pod. How do I "use iTunes to convert the wavs to apple lossless"?

Bimble, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

change your preferences to "apple lossless", right click on the track inside itunes, choose "convert".

akm, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

but anyway I'm still confused as to why you can't do this because I just put a .wav file on my ipod no problem. maybe it's a firmware issue or something. but I've always been able to add .wav files to my ipods.

akm, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA38530?viewlocale=en_US

akm, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

change your preferences to "apple lossless", right click on the track inside itunes, choose "convert".

Can you be a bit more specific? I don't see anything on any of the tabs in Preferences that mentions apple lossless and when I right click on any track in iTunes I don't see an option to convert except to "convert ID3 tags" or "create AAC version".

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 7 November 2008 07:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Well fuck me, now all of a sudden I've got the wav files to play on my iPod. WTF?

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 7 November 2008 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link

They didn't even support mp3 until 2004 or something

?

My original 5GB one certainly did (indeed: it was about all it did support). Unless this is a "joke" I'm not getting, in which case I apologise.

And yes, as akm suggests, there shouldn't be a problem with .wav files playing. It's obviously a problem with Switch, Bimble -- but if you've got it working, then hurrah!

NOW WITH ADDED CAPS (grimly fiendish), Friday, 7 November 2008 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, I'm wrong then.

GO BLACK DUDE FROM SPACE ♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡ (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 November 2008 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link

(wow, I didn't mean to reply within 50 seconds)

GO BLACK DUDE FROM SPACE ♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡ (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 November 2008 09:31 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

god this fucking program...

so simple - yet so difficult!!

fandango, Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

is there still no way to search by directory from within the program?

no smart playlist, nothing?

would make life so much easier....

fandango, Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

why would you search "by directory"? what does that mean? if you use itunes to organize your library it will organize everything by artist/album anyway.

akm, Sunday, 23 November 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

A directory setting for smart playlists would be nice because I don't have all my files in a single directory. I use a laptop and most of my files are on an external HD, which stays in the office. However, my iTunes folder on my laptop also has lots of music in it that I've recently ripped or downloaded. It'd be nice to be able to create a smart playlist based on local files (the only ones I can listen to when I am not at the office).

Mark, Sunday, 23 November 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

new iTunes upgrade will not install or run on my computer. lots of others with the same problem. none of the suggestions i've read work. do i just give up and head to the Apple store tomorrow?

the table is the table, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 07:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean, it is just kind of a bitch to play all my shit off ableton.

the table is the table, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 07:51 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

hey there

I just downloaded Itunes 8. My wife got a new iPod that'll only accept that version.

So here's my issue, and if anyone knows the solution I'll be really thankful. What does one have to do to be able to add tracks from audio CDs to this version? Before, I'd just slide a disc into the PC - it's a Vista computer - and, if iTunes was open, I'd get a prompt asking me if I wanted to import the songs, and the songs would appear on my iTunes screen, and I'd import them. Now when I slide a disc in, I don't get that prompt, and I have no idea how to import CDs.

Beatrix Kiddo, Monday, 29 December 2008 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh my god you're scaring the crap out of me. I don't want that version.

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 29 December 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

hey, it may just be something with my computer...

Beatrix Kiddo, Monday, 29 December 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

does the cd even show up as mounted outside of itunes?

akm, Monday, 29 December 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

actually it doesn't! which is weird.

Beatrix Kiddo, Monday, 29 December 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

have you tried another CD?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

on my iTunes 8, when i put in a CD a button appears in the lower-right of my iTunes window that says "Import CD"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Me too.

Alex in SF, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

it sounds to me like maybe vista has some driver issue with your cd drive.

akm, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

The CD should show up in the iTunes source list over on the left, regardless.

Millsner, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i tried a bunch of CDs.

let me look for that button...maybe i was just missing it.

Beatrix Kiddo, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

"The CD should show up in the iTunes source list over on the left, regardless."

True and you should be able to select and Convert to MP3 from there as well.

Alex in SF, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Eesh, yes this sounds like a Vista / CD drive problem.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I run iTunes 8 in Vista and have never had this problem.

Moodles, Monday, 29 December 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Nor me, but a few months of using Vista and iTunes and nothing would surprise me.

Not me I'm the Emotional Type (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 29 December 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

jeez louise. i restarted the damn computer and now everything's cool. i can't believe i didn't just do that in the first place!

thanks anyway, everyone!

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

OK i have a question

iTunes keeps track of how many "plays" a certain song has, and it also keeps track of how many "skips" it has. i think so far i have this correct.

now:

if a song is 5:48 and you skip to the next song at 5:35, does it count as a "skip" and not as a "play"?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

because that would be fucking ridiculous.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a computer program, not a fucking mind-reading machine

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

of the songs i actually listen to, i probably skip 75% of them just before the end, when i know the last verse is over and it's just the wind-down, or a 20-second fade-out, or 64 bars of beats so that it can be mixed into the next track by a dj.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a question: When I burn a CD using iTunes, the track information isn't always retained when I play the disc on a different computer. Why not? If it shows up on one computer, shouldn't it show up on all the others?

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a computer program, not a fucking mind-reading machine

― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, January 6, 2009 2:05 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

when you burn a CD, iTunes grabs the info about it from an online database, based on the number of songs on the CD and the exact length of each song. CDs themselves don't have any information about their tracks on them. another computer may be grabbing the info from a different database, or from the same database but a different entry in that database. the Gracenote database, which i believe iTunes uses, isn't perfect.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

n/a i think you will agree that in my case - and probably many others - the skip count probably closer resembles the number of actual plays than the play count does.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

when you burn a CD, iTunes grabs the info about it from an online database, based on the number of songs on the CD and the exact length of each song.
That's kinda what I figured. But I still don't get why the software can't just burn the text information to go along with each track, bypassing the online database altogether. I never have this problem when burning a data disc, which retains everything without looking it up on the web.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

the CD audio standard was invented a looong time ago, computer-wise

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

tracer just ffwd the last 20 secs or whatever rather than track skip. I do that cause I have a playlist of stuff that hasn't been played or skipped in XX weeks, but if I skip a track on my ipod, it doesn't register as a skip and therefore stays in my list of "unplayed/unskipped".

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

A state of the art personal computer in 1980, the year the Red Book (audio CD standard) was published:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Trs80_2.jpg

Basically, almost no metadata (artists, track names, etc) is supported by Red Book.

derelict, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

n/a i think you will agree that in my case - and probably many others - the skip count probably closer resembles the number of actual plays than the play count does.

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that's because it's a computer program, not a fucking mind-reading machine

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

last.fm scrobbly thing counts it as a 'play' after two minutes or halfway through the track, whichever is shorter. far more sensible, no mind-reading involved.

ledge, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

bought my eldest a cheap-n-cheerful laptop for crimbo/homework demands.
tonight he proudly told me that had installed iTunes on it.
10 minutes later that was no longer the case.
47Mb RAM useage as opposed to a much smaller memory footprint by the just as effective Media Player proved my case.
[1Gb RAM vs Vista = performance concerns]
not only that, but he hasn't got an iPod, so dont see the point when WMP will rip his 4 cds for him into mp3s for his phone.
someone convince me why he needs it ?
i suspect his reasoning is that classic case of 'everyone else has it'.
i feel like i am a bad bad dad for making his life iTunes free.

mark e, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

that's because it's a computer program, not a fucking mind-reading machine

― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, January 6, 2009 1:31 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ profoundops.

graty80 (libcrypt), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

XP: Its a nice interface for accessing the iTunes store, and now that iTunes is going DRM free I guess that's something. As with their portable devices, I guess its fashionable, if you value that above other virtues. If the kid doesn't care about performance issues, I'd let him get fed up on his own first.

But for almost any other purpose there are better alternatives. I'm a fan of MediaMonkey, which helps me effectively manage about 35,000 mp3s in a my own file hierarchy. Apple has joined my short-list of developers I associate with bloated resource use. As with everything MS other than the OS, there are useful alternatives for QuickTime codecs (though not development, AFAIK) as well.

derelict, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

my gonad for an iTunes/Media Monkey merger, where MediaMonkey redoes the iTunes UI, while iTunes keeps its proprietary store services

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link


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