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Although I felt "The Altogether" was hugely disappointing, and the idea of a new album that sounds like their first doesn't excite me, I am quite saddened that they're calling it quits.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"legendary transsexual composer Walter/Wendy Carlos"

Jeez!

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking hell, I've never seen Orbital live due to lots of unfortunate coincidences, I need to go to that Brixton gig. Could anybody put me up for the night in Londoinium if I made the pilgrimmage?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

When they play out Chime for the last time at the end of the Glasto set is going to be mentalism. And kind of emotional as well, but then the Hartnolls are to me as Radiohead are to Melissa, so...

Nick, I would totally put you up but will be at Glasto, sadly.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:45 (twenty-two years ago)

the disposable anonymity of the first white labels and the acid house scene that they came from

I like disposable anonymity.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Capitalist!

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I think their final album should be a forty-five minute track along the lines of "Impact" or "Nothing Left" but even bigger. fuck this "more like our first album" shit. Orbital should just give into their prog-rock inclinations at this point.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

The danger of that is we could get "Mother 2004" if they're not careful.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you mean the Goldie track? I would have thought the obv difference is that Goldie sucks at prog ("Inner City Life" excepted). Orbital are great at prog - "Out There Somewhere" and "Nothing Left" are both around twenty minutes anyway aren't they? "Are We Here?" is like sixteen yeah?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you mean the Goldie track?

Yes (and point taken, it's just that much as I like this vision and that I agree they handle long songs really beautifully, I fear the results of an off day! but this is all wishful thinking, alas...)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick, man don't give up! If I hand picked 50 of my favorite artists, only a few would touch Orbital in a live setting.

― bimble (bimble), Friday, 23 April 2004 02:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard You Lot and One Perfect Sunrise yesterday - the former is very Snivilisation while the latter is Halcyon-Belfast with added festival-friendly hands in the air vibe. These two tracks alone elevate the record miles above The Altogether in my estimation.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I listened to _Snivilization_ yesterday and while I completely agree that it is better than _The Altogether_, I don't think it makes _The Altogether_ useless, unlistenable or irrelevant.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

How did you hear them, you bugger?!

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I took the CD off my shelf and put it in my discman!

...Oh, you weren't talking to me.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

You can consider yourself a bugger as well though, Daniel.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Definitely classic up to and including the brilliant "In Sides". Not quite so classic after that.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't been particularly interested in either Orbital (or music festivals) since Snivilisation, which, 'Are we Here?' aside, I found to be a let down after Orbital 2...but something about that interview makes me really want to go to see the final Glastonbury show.

Quick Chime question: there's a mix (not the Beltram or Ray Keith ones) or version with a faster, housier beat than the original and a 'chime' sound that follows the bassline that I've been trying to ID for years. It would have been a pre-1995 release...anyone have any suggestions?

― mmmsalt (Graeme), Friday, 23 April 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, this couldn't be less like The Altogether...

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

That sound you hear is the sound of waves of disappointment crashing over me once more.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

First impressions - it's definitely embracing its inner prog... there's a kind of self-consciously BIG sound to the whole record - but in that it uses a lot of the worst cliches about 'epic' dance music - huge swathes of echo slathered over everything, long synth string chords, regular portentous stabs of sound - in a lot of ways the production's like a late 90s trance record. It's huge-sounding, but without any of the intimacy and texture that characterised InSides or even Snivilisation in parts. Also the tunes aren't much cop - I've gone off the aforementioned Sunrise quite a bit.

You Lot is pretty good - the rant over the top of it works and it's got some backbone and urgency to it, and Acid Pants certainly lives up to its name, but overall it sounds like a bad 90s act trying to imitate Orbital at their peak. I'll try and do a track-by-track later, once I've listened to it again.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha Matt I bet you a dollar that regardless of what you say I will love this album.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm hoping it'll grow on me - there are maybe three tracks I can see blaring out at Glastonbury but that's it. There's something of that trademark Orbital sound that you can hear right through the other albums missing though... it feels kinda empty.

There's a really nice plinky piano-led one in the middle called Bath Time, though.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Snivilisation. The Middle Of Nowhere and The Altogether all have the same ratio of bad/weak tracks. 'Science Fiction' bores me completely. 'Philosophy By Numbers' is a bit dull frankly, 'Quality Seconds' and 'Crash And Carry' are cool but throwaway. don't bother voicing your disagreement with me here as i concede Sniv is still the better album because of how awesome Forever, ..Duck Feet, Sad But True, Kein Trink Wasser, Are We Here and Attached are. i think The Altogether is alright by me because it's their poppiest album and this is some sort of relief/nice change from the progno of the other works (Meltdown excepted)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

listened to Way Out yesterday while going along the Hudson River and remembered there are only two tracks on TMON i dont like (Style, I Don't Know You People)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I think my speakers might have been set to a dodgy setting - this sounds much better on my PC without vast echoey noises.

You Lot makes me want to touch myself in my special place. I think the middle section will really appeal to fans of Selected Ambient Works II.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha I am such a sad Orbital fan that I even love "Style"!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

It also has a Boards of Canada 1969 style vocoder line on it. Gorgeous, in fact.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I freely admit that "Style" is their weakest single and etc etc, but THEY SAMPLE DOLLAR COVERING ERASURE AND HAVE A REMIX THAT FEATURES A BAGPIPE MARCHING BAND!!!!

xpost MATT STOP TORTURING ME PLZ

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Is this on SLSK yet?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan if you like Style you will love Bath Time - same thing only with sweet childlike pianos and undercutting bassy string lines.

It's not on Slsk. Ner.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and celestial choirs and high pitched pure phase drone noises.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmph.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The first track, Transient, is the proggiest thing they've ever done - no beats other than an insistent clanking boinking rhythm and sombre strings that gradually build up and up and a harpsichord line that comes in - they've done nothing like it since the middle sections of The Box single.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and Acid Pants has at least EIGHT 303 lines simultaneously squoinking over one another.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it'd probably be better without the Sparks vocals though - otherwise it's like Remind times ten.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

MATT DC IS A VERY MEAN PERSON WHAT WITH HIS TANTILIZEMENT AND ALL

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, on earphones, Acid Pants sounds like the most INTENSE thing they've done since the Brown album.

One Perfect Sunrise begins with one lone female vocal while the shimmering synth noises start to kick in and then this really fast bassline picks up and then suddenly HANDS IN THE AIR TRANCE!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

It's total hippy nonsense honestly - its like it was written for Glasto crusties.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

The breakdown is utterly schmaltzy - like the sort of thing that would be played in a tender Gelfling love scene in the Dark Crystal.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I am seconds away from reaching into this computer and giving you such a shake.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

So Matt, when you said it was rubbish you were lying, huh?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, since my hinting is bearing no fruit, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS YOU MASSIVE ORBITAL-TEASE??????

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

From the anti-Dan Perry squad. They hate you. (They hate me too.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I got a bloke to send me a CDR.

Pants, the second track, sounded like a trance record initially, it's the glossy sleek production, but on closer listens you can here all those interlocking forever-esque bleeps going on, and there are big string stabs and everything, and a 'chorus' bit that is essential a big string line pitch bent up and down and up and down again.

Yes, I was lying. Actually, I wasn't, I was just wrong.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I was holding out on that question, Dan.

But yeah, I've got dibs on this at Stylus, I NEED TO HEAR IT MATT I LOVE YOU.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll demean myself.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

With Dan Perry, if needs be.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

It's very proggy, though, especially the ambient interludes that seem to round off each track for thirty seconds or so.

Third track = Tunnel Vision - dark and relentless, like running through tunnels being chased by monsters music - very PETROL, very Crash and Carry.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

*insert soul-wrenching scream of envy and despair here*

(x-post: If it means I get a copy, I'm down.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

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