Killing Joke - Classic Or Dud, Search And Destroy

Please....I don't know where these allegations come from, but Killing Joke are **NOT** Aryan white supremacists. Maybe they're not the nicest guys in the world, but they're not racist rabble-rousers. You're thinking of Skrewdriver.

The only possible reason I can think of off hand is a rather unfortunate photo shoot for one of the weekly music papers around the time "Revelations" came out, which involved the paraphernalia from certain freemasonry rituals....

http://music.dartmouth.edu/~dupras/kj/d.gallery/d.band/d.lrg/KJ.NME.1982.lrg.jpg

Maybe I don't know enough about Freemasonry, but I gathered it had more to do with the occult than with Aryanism/white supremacy.

Honour The Set Square And Compass.... and those nice little little aprons!

With the weather like it is at the moment - I'm busy honouring the fire.

Editor place acronym for LAUGHING OUT LOUD here.

Paula G., meanwhile, has done nothing of the sort, and continues to spout whistle-headed nonsense (not least accusing the Joke of being Goths), so PISS OFF!

ooooooh stop me

I just got Psychopharmacology though, Alex. I love it.

Killing Joke wise, I'm not going to get all winded about it. Seek out the first album......

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc300/c309/c309332s0t8.jpg

....and if that doesn't grab ya, don't bother pursuing it further.

If I'd only heard the version _without_ he rap I'd probably have liked it.

I've heard the rap. Aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

And what Alex said about the first album, even though I prefer the second one myself.

KILLING JOKE ACTUALLY MENTIONED IN THE N.M.E!!!!!

http://www.nme.com/news/103951.htm

Whoohoo!

Tom chirped: "And is it just me or are they not anywhere near as heavy-sounding as they're made out to be." I dare say that without
Killing Joke, most of your precious "heavy sounding" bands wouldn't even exist. Killing Joke have indulged in a myriad of different
musical styles and sounds well beyond the monochromatic "heavy," yet when they choose to go that route, there is no one mightier.
To judge Killing Joke by one or two tracks is an excercise in blind-sighted stupidity. Do your homework before submitting an
opinion! Moreover, if you're put off by the conceptual/lyrical content of Killing Joke, why not toddle home and slap on a Pixies or
Cheap Trick album and celebrate the meaningless and banal. At least Killing Joke have something to say. You may not like it, agree
with it...or even understand it....but at least there something of substance there. Killing Joke credit their audience with higher
standards and a modicum of intelligence. Try getting that from Korn.

note: i agree that Big Black owe A LOT to KJ.

These bands weren't predecessors of Killing Joke, they were peers.

i find it extremly hard to beleave that Jaz Dosen't even Like New Order, what about their synth rock/pop tracks? they weren't the first.

Whoever said the Joke don't like New Order? Jaz has gone on record a few times saying Joy Division were one of the few of their fellow bands he actually liked and respected. Moreover, Peter Hook actually filled in on bass detail for Killing Joke for a very brief spell.

shur they were inspirational!

Awfully big of you.

... but i don't see them as the most inspirational Post Punk band.

Who said they were? My point, however, is that they don't get the recognition they rightfully deserve.

There were lots of Post punk bands that were far more inspirational for the "heavy sound" today than KJ, doesn't anyone see that?

Post-Punk in itself wasn't exactly a wellspring of 'heavy,' though. The Joke paired the fresher, spartan approach of what was turning into "post-punk" and paired it with a heavier sound that owed more to the more conventional Punk Rock and Metal before it. I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke. Gang of Four? No. Joy Division? Not quite. Public Image Ltd.? No.

"I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke"
i woun't argue with you on who's heavier, but just trieng to slagg of someone with a different opinion then you is revoulting.

hahaha yeah, sorry for getting carried away there.

And I'd still disagree with you about the Birthday Party being "heavier" (which is in absolutely no way to disparage the Birthday Party). I'm merely speaking of these two bands' respective sounds. The Birthday Party's rather brooding demeanor may rival Killing Joke's, but their literal sonic output doesn't match the sheer weight and brute force of the Joke's.

http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/geordie/geordie16.JPG

In any event, here's a shot of Jaz with the Foo Fighters onstage recently in Auckland. HE LIVES!

http://www.foofighters.com/blackbox/pictures/2003_01_16_auckland/images/FF_2003_AUCKLAND_GALATOS0066.jpg