okay, I'm sold on Funkadelic /Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On - offically essential in my book now!
― De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 15:31 (sixteen years ago)
yes!! It's many pfunk fans fave Funkadelic. Definitely the Eddie Hazel fans fave.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 15:37 (sixteen years ago)
It's fine, I'm surprised at Tuomas liking it as it's very rock in places, more so even than Funkadelic in some ways
Doesn't Tuomas like early Funkadelic though? it's just that he prefers Parliament more.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 18:04 (sixteen years ago)
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7610/bdfront.jpg
...the woman too wild for Miles!
― De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:07 (sixteen years ago)
TBH, in my blurb I specifically didn't want to make any references to Miles, as I thought Betty should be judged by her own merits. When I first heard the first two Betty Davis albums I had no idea she was Miles' ex, in fact I knew nothing of her backstory, I just liked the music. I think it's pretty crass that at this day and age an album by a female musician needs to be marketed by referencing her famous boyfriend, and by quoting another famous male musician about her looks on the album cover. Can you imagine a similar marketing strategy with any male singer?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:33 (sixteen years ago)
Checking out Chairmen Of The Board just now - some nice bits, especially early on, but it's not sticking as anything special
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:34 (sixteen years ago)
You dont even like the trilogy??
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 23:44 (sixteen years ago)
I just find the trilogy as exciting as anything in music
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:31 (sixteen years ago)
Tuomas, I hear you; I thought the blurbs were amusing as they don't even reference the musical strengths of the album.
I've listened to all 3 of your choices now.
I like quite a bit of Herbie's stuff from his lates 70s/early 80s period, but imo Perfect Machine has 3 pretty good tracks - which largely fail to transcend the period in which they were made (they sound less appealing as time passes) and the rest is interesting but not successful. Those 3 tracks being the title track, Vibe Alive and Maiden Voyage/P.Bop.
Herbie was the only one that I had heard before.
Listened to Betty Davis on my lunch hour - enjoyed it! ansd gonna listen to it again - there was a run of great tracks towards the end but I didn't look at the track titles when they came on - basically everything after the "I. Miller Shoes" song made me prick up my ears. So, I think a second listen to the album will be even more rewarding/enjoyable.
One listen yesterday afternoon of Leon - was a bit bored tbh - didn't excite me.
― De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 14:25 (sixteen years ago)
This date suit you , tom?10/5 - a hoy hoy Winston17/5 - Tannenbaum Schmidt24/5 - Ismael Klata (Not a rangers fan honestly)31/5 - funksclovetu7/6 - Seandalai Funkify14/6 - moka Funka21/6 - Abbott The Bricklayer28/6 - The Rev Funkenstein5/7 - pfunkboy12/7 - Turangalila Funkapus19/7 - mbison the texan funkateer26/7 - Shakey Mo Funkier2/8 - Tom "Funkybutt" D
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 14:35 (sixteen years ago)
If there are any funk albums left for me to recommend, yes!
― Football's Flocking Home (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 14:40 (sixteen years ago)
I think the weirdest thing in the cover sticker is "first official reissue". I checked my CD copy of Betty Davis and it was published in 2000, I guess it it isn't official then? But the sound quality on it is fine, it doesn't sound like it was mastered from vinyl or anything. And according to Discogs there was an even earlier reissue by another label that came out in 1993.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 14:50 (sixteen years ago)
Betty sounding super seductive on the last track, "I will take that ride" - makes me wish more of this album was like this.
― De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:21 (sixteen years ago)
Pfunk, wish you'd funkafied my name in that schedule reminder up above
― De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:23 (sixteen years ago)
i couldnt think of one other than Tannenfunkybum Schmidt.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:28 (sixteen years ago)
Yo! Tannenbaum more apt for the Hip Hop thread
― Football's Flocking Home (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:31 (sixteen years ago)
he doesnt need a krautrock name either, tom does though.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:35 (sixteen years ago)
I'm trying find a source for this, but I remember when the Light in the Attic reissues came out reading that all previous reissues had been bootlegs and Davis hadn't seen a dime from them. In fact, iirc, she was living in very poor circumstances in Philly.
Oh, and I agree on the objectification stuff--I only brought up that Miles quote because it relates to the frankness of her lyrics. Her shows were picketed by Christian groups for advocating S&M, I heard.
― elephant rob, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:08 (sixteen years ago)
FWIW: http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2007/04/betty-davis-gets-reissued
― elephant rob, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:13 (sixteen years ago)
did the same Christian groups picket the ohio players?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:45 (sixteen years ago)
I have no idea! I'm sure they weren't pleased about the OP, but the fact that a woman was singing about S&M was surely worse in their eyes.
― elephant rob, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:54 (sixteen years ago)
those covers were S&M pervtastic too though!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:25 (sixteen years ago)
have you seen the fold out for Honey? Pure filth.The Ohio Players Best 1970's Album (Album Covers pics contained maybe NSFW)
and
The Ohio Players Best 1970's Album (Album Covers pics contained maybe NSFW)
nsfw btw
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:26 (sixteen years ago)
maybe elephant rob is waiting until he gets home to look?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:11 (sixteen years ago)
I listened to the newly released Betty Davis and I'm liking it. One of the tracks really stood out but I forgot to take note of the title. I dont think anyone who likes the 1st 3 albums will be disappointed.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:56 (sixteen years ago)
Sam put it on while you drink your beers!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:03 (sixteen years ago)
ha maybe. let me drop a gem on 'em first.
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:06 (sixteen years ago)
a what?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:47 (sixteen years ago)
OK, I guess I'll volunteer to do the week after Tom, if these are still going in August. Can't provide Spotify links but I won't choose anything impossibly rare. Pfunkboy can call me Von Bootee!
Throwing on Leon Thomas now, looking forward to the yodeling...
― too dancy, rocking, jazzy, funky or american (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 6 May 2010 04:04 (sixteen years ago)
Unfortunately the fact that BatST is a more straightforward funk/soul effort means that there's yodeling only on one or two tracks. If yodeling is what you want, check out the first two Leon Thomas albums (Spirits Known and Unknown and The Leon Thomas Album).
― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 May 2010 06:17 (sixteen years ago)
10/5 - a hoy hoy Winston17/5 - Tannenbaum Schmidt24/5 - Ismael Klata (Not a rangers fan honestly)31/5 - funksclovetu7/6 - Seandalai Funkify14/6 - moka Funka21/6 - Abbott The Bricklayer28/6 - The Rev Funkenstein5/7 - pfunkboy12/7 - Turangalila Funkapus19/7 - mbison the texan funkateer26/7 - Shakey Mo Funkier2/8 - Tom "Funkybutt" D9/8 - Von Bootee!
there we go. At this point we have more volunteers for picking albums than listeners/posters!Post your thoughts on the albums folks!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 14:26 (sixteen years ago)
I'll be posting my friday bonus funk pick at midnight.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:28 (sixteen years ago)
finally settled on my three choices for when I'm due to choose.
pfunk, what should I listen to next by Funkadelic/Parliment after seriously getting into "Standing On The Verge...." - shamefully know little by them
― De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:48 (sixteen years ago)
Prob. "Maggot Brain" for Eddie Hazel in full effect. "Let's Take It to the Stage" is quite similar to "Standing On The Verge" in some ways.
― Am I Re-elected Yet? (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:54 (sixteen years ago)
yeah the 1st 3 probably. Standing... is from the classic middle period.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 15:59 (sixteen years ago)
dude be patient these guys are bound to take up a fair chunk of recommendations on this thread
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:01 (sixteen years ago)
have a read at
http://www.duke.edu/~tmc/motherpage/discog-funkadelic.html
then http://www.duke.edu/~tmc/motherpage/discog-top.html
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:01 (sixteen years ago)
the thing is their catalog is deep AND wide - there's a lot in there, and not all of it is of a piece. the first couple Funkadelic albums bear little to no resemblance to, say, late-period Parliament.
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:26 (sixteen years ago)
xpost: yeah, I've heard Maggot Brain and didn't like/understand it. But those links, pfunk, help in placing their mid-period so I'll check albums immediately before and after "Standing On The Verge"
― De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:39 (sixteen years ago)
So, anybody have anything more to say about this week's albums? I thought they would raise a little more discussion.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:44 (sixteen years ago)
I think the mid-period stuff is wildly underrated - the run from Cosmic Slop through Tales of Kidd Funkadelic is remarkably consistent and probably the most deeply rewarding. The period often gets overlooked by the rock fans on the one hand who prefer the earliest, fuzzed out/prot-metal material and also by the dance fans who like the later bubbly, synth-heavy, hit-laden stuff (i.e., One Nation Under a Groove and on). But the middle period stuff is FULL of amazing sounds, its where Clinton hit his stride as a producer, and where Bernie Worrell comes to the for, but there's still plenty of guitar heroics, great riffs, Temptations-style group vocals, and loopy concepts. Honestly this is the stuff I pull out most often.
My recommendation for where to go after Standing would be Cosmic Slop, tbh.
xp
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:48 (sixteen years ago)
sorry Tuomas I haven't gotten to the Herbie yet, been a busy week for me!
Unfortunately the fact that BatST is a more straightforward funk/soul effort means that there's yodeling only on one or two tracks.
Oh don't worry, I know where to find the yodeling if I need it, thanks! Pretty enjoyable LP overall, nice variety in vocal approaches and instrumentation. Didn't care much for the two blues standards, I've heard enough cover versions over the years.
― too dancy, rocking, jazzy, funky or american (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:53 (sixteen years ago)
The Betty Davis album slams hard - all her albums do - and the woman herself makes for stunning album cover art. But yeah, her screech can be a little hard to take after listening awhile. (Approaches sheer white noise at times, practically!) Still, I'm glad these records were made, and glad that they're all available again.
― too dancy, rocking, jazzy, funky or american (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:14 (sixteen years ago)
thread full of lols + me defending Betty's catalog against some jerks
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:29 (sixteen years ago)
the mid period is a lot of pfunk fans fave because its the funk-rock period where eddie hazel writes most of it, after that he was incarcerated I think.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:47 (sixteen years ago)
Drunk rather than incarcerated, I fear
― Am I Re-elected Yet? (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:49 (sixteen years ago)
no, i believe he was in and out of jail, possibly due to addiction
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:52 (sixteen years ago)
It was the booze that killed him though
― Am I Re-elected Yet? (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:53 (sixteen years ago)
20 years later!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:54 (sixteen years ago)