Say Something Nice or Interesting about: Smash Mouth (or possibly Sugar Ray)

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i don't think no doubt made the 90s poll nominations! in thinking abt my ballot, there's tons and tons of great stuff that was left out and a lot of mediocrities included. :-(

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I take Sugar Ray over No Doubt because they're a little less twerpy and, ironically, Gwen postures more.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm kinda surprised at some stuff that was left off, and weirdly relieved too cuz it helped prevent my ballot from being too indie (i'd already determined i was gonna vote for 'wowee zowee' by pavement and no sebadoh or gbv for redundancy's sake so when 'wowee zowee' didn't turn up it cleared some space.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Gwen and Mark both just say "I need you" a lot except Mark gets dumped and Gwen dumps.

really? i think of gwen as a dumpee at heart.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

dudes fuck around on her but they always come back. she's the one that finally has to tell them no (and then roll around in bed wondering if she was too hasty and could have fixed them)

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

both - she's a fully faceted human being

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

both - she's a fully faceted human being

do you mind if i imagine you saying this in ghostface voice?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

b-b-b-but humans are not fully faceted beings!

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll take Sugar Ray's self-titled album over any of XTC's.

"Waiter, as lovely as your Filet Mignon special tonight sounds, could I just please have an order of year-old, room-temperature Spam? And can I have it in a dog dish please?"

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

forgot "Don't Speak," yeah she gets dumped.

though there's are plenty of human beings who are Mark-like sadsacks (if Mark didn't look like Mark or make money like Mark he would be on ILX).

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Starting half the "cheer me up" threads.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

These things you say are all too much for my hea-eh-ed
I'd rather watch tv or hear a good record instea-eh-eh

― minolta (minolta), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually just figured out what frustrated, name-all-the-band-members, defensive poster Mark McGrath would resemble if you removed all pretty-boy superstar shit, but he doesn't post anymore so it wouldn't be right to name-drop.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

momus?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

is there video online of this mark mcgrath public breakdown

― big chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

let's just say that if Ethan typed "Sugar Gay" Mark would start a thread about it, spazz, say he's done with ILX and then show up in a week pointing out how defensive other people are.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

so it is momus

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

yup (though if Mark broke the cycle I'd commend him, as I would anybody who did)

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

man last time i saw mark mcgrath his hairline was receding in some superfast 'holy moly i thought shit like that only happened in the craft' way; when the end comes it don't come easy (cf. nicole eggert)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish Mark could settle for being hella-rich, cuz its far too late for him to do what Partridge did. It's not going to be pretty.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The rest of 'em will be fine with studio gigs and production jobs though (they all can write - drummer Stan "The Man" Frazier is working with Ashlee Simpson). Mark's gonna bear the "Where Are They Now" brunt with Mike Reno-like dignity I figure.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

if he manages jani lane dignity i'll be surprised

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Depends on whether or not he takes up a job at Taco Mesa in the kitchen.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

You know what song I like? "When It's Over." Oh, and that other one about the four-post bed or something.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

my fave is probably "Someday." Sentimental favorite, but I voted it for best single of the '90s on the poll nonetheless.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"Fly" still reigns supreme.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

If Sugar Ray have a song that "reigns supreme" it's either "When It's Over" or easily something off of their pre-fame debut, Lemonade & Brownies.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember vaguely their first single off Lemonade and Brownies being played on 120 minutes. I thought it sucked. This thread reminded me that I wanted to download all their singles. They are so good. They are so laid-back that I remember them all as ballads, even though none of them really are.

― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I think No Doubt just beat them as the best pop band of the 90s, due to their greater variety.

― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

anthony, you are a very very odd fellow.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Sugar Ray were in that crappy movie Ftaher's Day, and Smashmouth were in that crappy movie Rat Race.

i can't say i've ever really liked a song by either.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)

What's with all the bad taste in here? It's like walking into Dangerfield.

― Sexual Air Supply (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Read the thread title.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we get back on topic talking about how cool Sugar Ray are?
Their lead singer looks like the kinda guy who should slither out from under a car wearing a greasy overall and say "Welllllp, that transmission ain't priddy, but it'll run."

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Sugar Ray ('s singles).

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

An appropriate fate for both bands.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 November 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

Cocks are the human reproductive organ XTC.

wow, just read most of this thread - gotta be one of the funniest instances of an ILM thread being derailed, with the whole Smash Mouth = XTC argument going back and forth btw. Anthony and Alex for-fucking-ever. high point was the above comment, which had me actual LOLing for about 5 minutes. hilarious!

― stephen, Friday, 2 November 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

I love this thread so much.

― HI DERE, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

Best pop-rock album of the millenium so far.

A+ trolling

― gershy, Saturday, 3 November 2007 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

The aforementioned Perrey & Kingsley song, by the way, is "Swan's Splashdown." Good taste by Smashmouth.

― Jake Brown, Saturday, 3 November 2007 04:37 (eighteen years ago)

That was not trolling. It was wrong but it was his honest opinion. Is Anthony gone now?

― filthy dylan, Saturday, 3 November 2007 04:38 (eighteen years ago)

oh, i was just joking.
he posts under the name da croupier (check the recent sasha frere jones thread for classic anthony)

― gershy, Saturday, 3 November 2007 04:47 (eighteen years ago)

idunnowhattotype (1 day ago) +2
if you don't like Sugar Ray,
then quite virtually you don't deserve to exist.

― Tape Store, Saturday, 3 November 2007 05:38 (eighteen years ago)

i like "walking on the sun"

― latebloomer, Saturday, 3 November 2007 06:31 (eighteen years ago)

i can't say i've ever really liked a song by either.

-- latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:58 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

LIAR

― latebloomer, Saturday, 3 November 2007 06:33 (eighteen years ago)

this thread is near IT WAS A PRED SHIP-quality fun

― latebloomer, Saturday, 3 November 2007 06:44 (eighteen years ago)

Smash Mouth- shrewdest rock band ever. Right from the start, they announced they were only interested in making some money, didn't care about looking cool. At the height of Napster, they realized it wasn't about record sales, but song licensing. For a few years, it seemed like that "Hey now, you're a rockstar!" song was in every movie soundtrack. When it came on over the credits of Cold Mountian, I was like "Woah!"

― bendy, Saturday, 3 November 2007 11:17 (eighteen years ago)

Lyrical references
-The line "with her finger and her thumb in the shape of an 'L' on her forehead" refers to the popular mocking hand gesture "Loser".

-The line "all that glitters is gold" is probably a parody of the proverb, "All that glitters is not gold." It may also be a parody of the well-known line from the Led Zeppelin song Stairway to Heaven.

-Given that it accompanies other metaphorical references to weather, and is followed by a line referring to a "hole in the satellite picture" (probably a reference to the hole in the ozone layer), the term "meteor man" in the line "but the meteor men beg to differ" most likely refers to television meteorologists. It may or may not also be a pun referring back to the line "only shooting stars break the mold", since a meteor is also referred to as a "shooting star".

-The second verse is as follows:
"It's a cool place, and they say it gets colder. You're bundled up now, wait til' you get older. But the meteor men beg to differ judging by the hole in the satellite picture.

The ice we skate is getting pretty thin. The water's getting warm, so you might as well swim. My world's on fire, how bout yours? That's the way I like it and I never get bored"

When viewed from a scientific perspective, this aspect of the song seems to be indirectly referring to global warming.

― Tape Store, Saturday, 3 November 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

Together forever.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 November 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

"cuddly people"?

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 4 November 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

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