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one size fits all
roxy and elsewhere
hot rats
waka jawaka
the grand wazoo
burnt weenie
we're only in it for the money
fillmore east
apostrophe
joe's garage

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Waka Jawaka is one of my faves. Have to pick up the Grand Wazoon one of these days

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Cutty be a fan of the Saturday Night Live-style fusion Zappa...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

well YEAH. zappa in new york is also a keeper.

also relevant to this, i think if a lot of people who hate zappa were presented with a mix of his strictly instrumental stuff, they'd be pretty blown away. i made one of these mixes once, but i lost it. i'll have to reconstruct the tracklisting sometime.

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I was a big fan of the Michael Brecker-driven "Sofa" on New York in college.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I find it difficult to tolerate the late-70s and 80s Zappa sound production-wise. And the remastered Ruben and WOIIFTM CDs sound horrible.

bill neil (inabillity), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Remixed, rather.

bill neil (inabillity), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree

big chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

THese are the 8 I currently own:
Freak Out!
Absolutely Free
WOIIFTM
Burnt Weeny Sandwich
Hot Rats
Waka/Jawaka
The Grand Wazoo
Joe's Garage

I've also had Apostrophe and the Strictly Commercial comp at some point.

Every country has their stupid (AaronHz), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

His appearance on the Tonight Show when Steve Allen hosted is also classic. He was 15 years old or so, and came on the show to play the bicycle. He layed a bike down on the stage and hit it with mallets or something, completely deadpan, and Allen interviewed him afterward. Allen: "How long have you been playing the bike? Zappa: "About two weeks." It gets shown on those "history of the Tonight Show" programs, but never the whole thing, which I'd really like to see.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Now THAT I like!

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, no shit.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/videography/images/Steve_Allen.jpg

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

What a classic, been playing the bike for about two weeks.

I'd like to hear a strictly instrumental selection of Zappa's best stuff. Somehow I've avoided those Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar comps, as I've been certain they wouldn't represent the best instrumental stuff, like on Hot Rats, Burnt Weenie etc. Roxy & Elsewhere is great if you dig One Size Fits right?

Piers (piers), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

roxy and one size are exactly the same band. so, yes!

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, FZ was my first real concert experience, so classic.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Rosebud! You know, the Steve Allen influence on Frank could explain a lot - both the Renaissance Man desire to achieve and excel in various areas of the arts, and the idea that making fun of rock and roll is clever.

Now that I understand Frank's trauma, THE HEALING CAN BEGIN!

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

A shame he didn't make more records in his lifetime.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
so the entire zappa catalog just went up on emusic. hot.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That is great news Yancey. I have about thirty Zappa/Mothers records but I find that every few months there's another I want. Spent the holidays listening to quite a bit of Zappa, reverse-inspired by Barry Miles' "Zappa," which was not a real good book.

George Smith, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

been blasting roxy and elsewhere a lot lately.

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you have "Stage, Vol. 2"? Same band, many of the same tunes. "Pygmy Twylyte" is merciless.

George Smith, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

stage vol 2. was mostly one size fits all stuff, i thought? the original guitar solo from inca roads was lifted from that rendition. killer.

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

heres some more props for the grand wazoo... just listened to this and its very beautiful

chaki in charge (chaki), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

wazoo is amazing! so is waka jawaka.

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I love love love love the wah-pushed-down-flat guitar sound he has on so much of the 70s stuff, like Hot Rats... that hollow, wheedling, totally obnoxious fuzz sound. It fits his general gameplan perfectly - taking this overdetermined, juicy, sexy signifier (the wah) and jamming it down into the most irritating position possible. I like the guitar solo stuff (like Hot Rats) and a lot of the drumming and practically none of the stuff with actual lyrics*

*except for Billy the Mountain

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
The first time I heard Billy the Mountain (and i had been a fan for a few years before) I thought it was brilliant and kept rewinding back to hear certain parts over and over again. The "Thoroughly.....wiiiiith.....foooooil" bit is the absolute apex.

Btw, 200 Motels is incredible, both the soundtrack and the movie. And if u watch it and enjoy it you'll want to watch it several more times just to see if you can understand what's going on.

Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Saturday, 28 May 2005 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

take a wild guess WHICH band did a cover of "watermelon in easter hay" in tribute of FZ, right after he died.

Missing Persons?

Joe (Joe), Sunday, 29 May 2005 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Picked up Burnt Weeny Sandwich a few months back, and though I usually hate his doo-wop stuff, I have to say that "WPLJ" (a cover, I believe) is pretty damn catchy...

Joe (Joe), Sunday, 29 May 2005 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that rules.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 29 May 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

So why did Lou Reed induct Zappa into that Music Hall of Fame thingy?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andymurkin/Resources/MusicRes/ZapRes/Fame.html

Joe (Joe), Sunday, 29 May 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i thought lou reed hated zappa?

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 29 May 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

he wanted to be able to say historically, "I know he respected me."

Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Sunday, 29 May 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

'twas none other than ... DURAN DURAN which played "watermelon in easter hay" right after zappa died. warren cucurillo and all that.

i forgot that i had posted that question!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 29 May 2005 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Re:Hall of Fame thing- If you want to present yourself as an elder statestman, a classic maneuver is to publicly mend fences and bury hatchets with former enemies.

Someone should tell the guy with the webpage who Doc Pomus is.

Ken L (Ken L), Sunday, 29 May 2005 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
"Eat that Question"...fucking brilliant

What kind of keyboard is that at the beginning? Is that a Rhodes? It sounds modified in some way.

Keith C (lync0), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

Lonely Little Girl is teh biz

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

Okay, I have a crazy Zappa nut friend who buys everything the trust puts out, even the crazy 4-disc MOFO version of Freak Out! Well, he sent me a copy of last year's Greasy Love Songs, which is the remastered proper version of Ruben & The Jets, and I have to say it's turned me around on what I thought was one of the "meh" Mothers albums. It's brilliant.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 02:55 (fifteen years ago)

One of my favorites. I found a copy of the original vinyl in the early 80s, so I had several years with the proper instrumentation before I had to deal with the Barrow/Wackerman parts.

I've been listening to FZ's compositions a lot lately, but not FZ albums -- putting together a compilation of Zappa's work performed by various big bands and small chamber groups.

Goonhynhnms & YaHOOS (WmC), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 03:15 (fifteen years ago)

That compilation sounds really cool.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 03:17 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

Wondering what to make of the forthcoming Zappa reissues. Series starts tomorrow with a set of 12 up to Just Another Band From L.A.
Set seem to have an odd mix of remasters from original tapes and the mixes Zappa himself did before he died, some of which I thought were derided.

There is a rundown here http://gandsmusic.com/ZappaCD1.htm that seems to be accurate about sources.

Hoping that the ones that I want from the next batch are original master based. Have heard that only 1/3 of the reissues are from the tapes though.
But that may skip Hot Rats which seems to be based on a previous vinyl remaster if I'm reading things right.

Stevolende, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

That's some bullshit. But I'm guessing they're putting out these particular mixes so as not to cut into sales of the Zappa Archives ones that have already come out (MOFO, Lumpy Gravy, Greasy Love Songs, etc).

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

should be Lumpy Money in that post.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

Cruising With Ruben & The Jets

2011 transfer of the 1984 digital remix - yes, that one!

what the fuck, nooooooo

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

time to buy Greasy Love Songs.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

Good info to know. It kinda sucks that they couldn't do vanilla editions of the O.G. Freak Out! & Cruising... ala bare bones dvds sharing shelf space with Criterion/Special Editions of same. If somebody wanted the bonus tracks bad enough, they'd spring for the Archives titles.

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 July 2012 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks for that - I'd been wondering what the provenance of these new issues would be.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

Nobody rushed out and bought them then? Want reviews before i think of picking up several.
Though most of the ones I was thinking of are the next batch the Bitches Brew-alikes and possibly the 2 lps after them.

Thinking I might plunk for Hot Rats & maybe Absolutely Free from this batch. Do have the old Rykos of the mid 60s Mothers stuff. had been thinking of picking up the Threesome vol 2 box which had all the jazz ones from this era together until I found out they'd been deleted.
They're not likely to redo a set like that are they?

Stevolende, Monday, 30 July 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

All the ones I'm excited for are in the second batch. Never was a huge fan of the classic Mothers records, though the live shows from Beat The Botts are swell.

But it might all change when I see them in the stores tomorrow. Might weaken a bit and pick up Weasels.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 July 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

beat the botts? How bout boots?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 July 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)


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