TS: Denny Lethargy VS. Denny Vertigo

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Guys.. wtf. Seriously. This is some sub-Grand Funk shit. "sounds like blue cheer"??? are you out of your fuckin mind??? Blue Cheer had FOCUS and DIRECTION. Vertigo was bullshit wank over half-formed grooves; Lethargy was just that BUT SLOWED DOWN. Seriously, wtf. I know you smoke a lot of green and listen to Sabbath, dood, but I don't need to hear your crap records..

YA'LL MENTALISTS

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 25 August 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

i can't imagine how you could call leonard childress's beats "half-formed grooves." you obviously don't recognize that they are all in odd-time signatures. i believe he played in 13 a lot.

maybe it's too intricate for your young ears?

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 25 August 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

that whole second side of "infamous apocalypse" is a prime example of what I mean--his drumming is too pointed and unrelaxed. if he loosened up a little (i.e. no blow before recording), maybe he could extend the infinite...

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 25 August 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

these guys are in nashville a lot from what i've heard. i don't think i can bear to mention who is a studio player... and even worse... who they're playing for.

didn't denny write [controversial nashville lore here]?
m.

msp (mspa), Thursday, 25 August 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

God Ian, I can't believe a New Yorker such as yourself prefers something like Hawkwind to the visionary ur-punk New York-ness of early Denny Lethargy.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 25 August 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

"new yorker" I've barely lived here for two years!!

But that's beside the point. "Urpunk" or whatever, is not exactly my cup of tea. I don't even like the New York Dolls! (but they're still better than lethargy & vertigo.)

I'd be curios to know what records these guys are on, MSP! I hear a lot of contemporary country when I visit my family, cuz my sister and cousins listen to that stuff a lot. That or chart hip hop.

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 25 August 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

Ian, have you ever heard the bass line on "Narwhal Curiosity" from the Sledding Daze album?

though they're never really recognized for it, they really could bring the FUNK.

in fact, vertigo and lethargy in late 80's belgian hip-hop were like liquid liquid and kraftwerk to early 80's NYC hip-hop/electro.

latebloomer's rectal mocha latte (latebloomer), Thursday, 25 August 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

I haven't heard that one.
Was it reissued with the others or still vinyl only? slsk???

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 25 August 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

well i got it on slsk, but as far as i know not in print!

latebloomer's rectal mocha latte (latebloomer), Thursday, 25 August 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)

but is totally worth searching! that shit=JAMZ

latebloomer's rectal mocha latte (latebloomer), Thursday, 25 August 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

not in print No Kidding, none of these records officially made it to CD. there's the Billingsgate vinyl transfer of Inventing Gyros and that's it.

I've got Ganglia on vinyl, been meaning to do a transfer of that. Tonight's the night.

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 25 August 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

It's so awesome that you guys finally started talking about Vertigo. I've been lurking here for a while, and I like a lot of different music, but I never expected to see a thread like this [i]anywhere[/i]. Denny Vertigo is a god. The only question now is how lame Denny Lethargy is.

xxavier (xxavier), Thursday, 25 August 2005 05:29 (twenty years ago)

I used to have a tape of a show he did in 1976 in Minneapolis. I forgot what club it was. Ia anyone here enough of a fan to have a copy of the tape? That would be so awesome.

xxavier (xxavier), Thursday, 25 August 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

I dunno about bootlegs, hopefully someone will have that

but this, man... pretty great stuff, especially for 1974

http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TMOXVDFMQJQX3N04NPEKNUNA2

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 25 August 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

I mean, the only band really following up on this kind of sound these days is probably, oh I dunno, Blist. But I can't think about them without getting a migrane for some strange reason.

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 25 August 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

[i]but this, man... pretty great stuff, especially for 1974[/i]

yeah, but part two is so much better, later in the album, when the lyrics come in...

[i]I'm SPENT
(I wish you were gentler)
SPENT
(You can't taste any mintier)
SPENT
(It's awllll an illusion!)
SPENT
(SO MUCH CONFUSION!)[/i]

xxavier (xxavier), Thursday, 25 August 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

flo and eddie!

huell howser (chaki), Thursday, 25 August 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.incrediblemohawkbrothers.com/images/thfe_001.jpg
with you know who

huell howser (chaki), Thursday, 25 August 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

http://i.timeinc.net/time/2004/obesity/speakers/images/weil.jpg

pr00de descending a staircase (pr00de), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Didn't know he was down with the "scene" back then...

pr00de descending a staircase (pr00de), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

What hippy loser wasn't in Huautla de Jimenez trying to score some magic mushrooms after having read about it in Life when they were a freaking teenage loser? Vertigo was just one more lame, drug addled attendant at this spiritual buffet, standing in line right behind John Lennon, Bob Dylan and hundreds of other "celebrities" who wanted to go on their own "Great Adventure" and then bore everybody else with it.

Jack Cole (jackcole), Thursday, 25 August 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

in fact, vertigo and lethargy in late 80's belgian hip-hop were like liquid liquid and kraftwerk to early 80's NYC hip-hop/electro.

aw, you're just making that up.

and I can walk out into the world, singing with my people (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 25 August 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

They've got a pretty good Denny Vertigo bootleg box set for sale at Dusty Groove, but as usual they get it totally wrong in the description:

"Seminal krautrock blues riffs from the mysterious master himself, Denny Vertigo! Call us crazy, but we detect some Afropop influence as well! OUTTASITE!"

Still worth picking up though, only $135.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Nevermind, just checked, it's out of stock.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 25 August 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

happier times...

http://www.vertigobliss.com/images/dennyrocksit80sstyle.jpg

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Thursday, 25 August 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

i predict a DL/DV backlash in like 3 weeks.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh holy shit, "Solar Cock" was on this mixtape this girl made for me in high school, what a jam! Although, admittedly, I did kind of, you know, wonder about her.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

is Denny Vertigo's solo LP Astral Milk-Fed Ganglia any good? i've heard so many people swear by that album, like it's a touchstone for proto-ambient psych-ish stuff.

d4n s3lz3r was trying to do a proper cd release through acute, but vertigo's unreliability coupled with legal issue over ownership has pretty much stalled the whole thing.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

thanks for putting up that ysi, guys. i remember reading about denny vertigo back in high school -- in the trouser press guide, maybe? -- but was never able to find any of his albums. then i sort of forgot about him for a while. it sounds pretty cool, though. like an idiot, i didn't even realize that vertigo and lethargy were associated until a year or two ago. also: chuck eddy to thread.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

I've always wanted there to be a Leisure Suit Larry movie, just so Denny Lethargy could do the soundtrack. Shit would be TITE.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

I knew I had the AMG review around somewhere:

DENNY VERTIGO
Move The Warm Bodies
(Futurismico, 1981)
** 1/2

Apparently inspired by both Gary Numan and Alice Cooper's attempt to become new wave, Vertigo did his best to come to grips with the bleeding edge of 1981 on Move the Warm Bodies. As has become legend, the album itself was never released due to a dispute with the UK art label he had signed with at the time -- owner Tarquin St. Chives refused to do any promotion for the album outside of getting heroin-addicted models to slump over some bulldozers. The eventual rerelease of the album by Vertigo years later shows that despite his claims of thwarted artistic merit, Move was truly only half successful at its task. Starting off with a song called "Urethra Uniroyal" that sought to find the hitherto unknown links between the Stooges and Duran Duran was probably not the best idea, while "I Beat the Machine" and "Your Robot Thigh" were simply laughable, though the break on the latter with orgiastic voices chanting "Grunt the suck" over bleepy arrangements borrowed happily from early Depeche Mode singles is, if nothing else, unique. "Computer Reptile" signalled a better second half, though, and Thomas Dolby's guest work on synth, one of his lesser-known studio session jobs before his own breakthrough, add a necessary something to the otherwise trudging demi-epic "Gonfal, the Barbarian of the Motherboards." Still, this is a curio for only the truly dedicated Vertigo fan, though it has to be said that the liner notes are particularly fine.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, Danny Lethargy:

S: "The Crimson Curtain" and "Bury The Wand, Burn The Water"
D: that one semi-hit from the early 80s with that horrible PLOOM PLANG Linn drum machine beat

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Nevermind, just checked, it's out of stock.

Insound has a copy -- only $120!

orgiastic voices chanting "Grunt the suck" over bleepy arrangements borrowed happily from early Depeche Mode singles is, if nothing else, unique.

Hahaha, too true -- it's obvious that "Dreaming Of Me" didn't leave Vertigo's turntable around the time of those studio sessions.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

D: that one semi-hit from the early 80s with that horrible PLOOM PLANG Linn drum machine beat

"forest of fate"? i think that's the one that chuck writes about in stairway to hell.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

B-side, dude. The hit was in 1983 and is called "Running Down The Demon's Alley."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

There's that 3-song run on the blue record that could even pass as a 12" on Areal or Border Community.

Recently picked up this old Luciano tune from when he was recording as Shy Guy that samples "Foreign Shocks". It's a monster, from around 97 I think, has that kind of bouncy, elasticy early Klang Elektronik/Playhouse sound, samples the "what is this foreign shock/is our culture about to stop" line but picthed down with a load of delay, it could easily fit into say an Ada or Daniel Bell set.. I'll try and YSI in a bit.

Ridley, Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

sorry, ned. like i said, i'm only really starting to dig into this stuff!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

That's quite all right. Make sure you look for the bootleg from the 1983 tour, Rectal Rockism.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Recently picked up this old Luciano tune from when he was recording as Shy Guy that samples "Foreign Shocks".

I've heard that tune, and while I'm no authority, I'm pretty sure he was actually sampling an old Egyptian Lover track that sampled "Foreign Shocks." (I don't remember the name of it, sorry.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

hi denny wat is sister email why becuz she look interesting

tombstone1414, Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

What hippy loser wasn't in Huautla de Jimenez trying to score some magic mushrooms after having read about it in Life when they were a freaking teenage loser? Vertigo was just one more lame, drug addled attendant at this spiritual buffet, standing in line right behind John Lennon, Bob Dylan and hundreds of other "celebrities" who wanted to go on their own "Great Adventure" and then bore everybody else with it.

don't forget vertigo's brief stint at the navajo sweat lodge. word has it jim seals and dash crofts were there that week too. they went down there to clean up and by the second day it was a veritable smorgasbord of coke, pot, shrooms, peyote, mescaline, and ludes.

and I can walk out into the world, singing with my people (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Is there any truth to the story that Vertigo was an informant for the FBI like Timothy Leary?

Jack Cole (jackcole), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

i thought he was working for the CIA like chuck barris.

and I can walk out into the world, singing with my people (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I always imagined Vertigo as more of a snitch than a stealthy assassin.

Jack Cole (jackcole), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

exactly

and I can walk out into the world, singing with my people (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

BEST THREAD EVER

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha, fuckin right.

F (Ferg), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

And Ladies and Gents, that's a wrap!

My life with Baaderonixx and the Choco-pops babies (Fabfunk), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)


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