Britney Spears is an Idiot: SHOCKER!

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you can call britney whatever names you like: just don't hide behind big political claims when you do, if you want us to take your POLITICS seriously

Mark, why would I or Britney or anyone care if you took our politics seriously or not? Given that you are the world's champion at jumping to conclusions, I mean.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

my joke flew by like a stealth bomber in the night

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

It is Calum, isn't it? Where did I put those Spice Girls pictures?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronan, I got it right after I hit "Submit". Today is Dan Is Slow Day.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"Rock The Vote" = "Try Using The System Before You Complain About It, You Lazy, Spoiled and Ungrateful Slugs"

The general degree of faith in the American electoral system continues to shock and amaze me

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope I don't detect any snobbishness and elitism towards Calum there Marcello - granted that envy is pretty unlikely

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

J0hn, I think part of the issue is that voter turnout is so low that there isn't a strong enough case to say that the electoral college system is completely broken and outdated. That's a different issue from whether the system is actually broken and outdated.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope this thread gets to be as long as the Dave Matthews thread. And endless circle of stubborn pontificating.

And, Dan, I promise to let you have the 1000th post this time.

And even though I disagree with all of you and think you're being twats, I still value reading your opinions - and sometimes even bend mine a little because of yours.. (So you can shove your Years of observing people using this line as code for "I will never respect you as long as you disagree with me" to thread. ;-) )

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave, my point was more that I find it very difficult to believe people when they say things like that rather than accusing you of being a DIRTY DIRTY LIAR!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh. OK, sorry I called you a twat then, ol' pal.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

''Is Dadaismus Calum with a Wire hat on?''

wire t-shirt, more like ;) those are pretty ace but I haven't got one.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone's talking about the "trust" part, but what about the "support" aspect?

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

THIS THREAD IS LOVE

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I just want to say that I got your joke, Ronan, and it was quite funny.

The only thing that actively annoys me in this thread is the misogyny claim! Why are you all throwing that in there, wtf? There's more than enough evidence that this board thinks Fred Durst is a retarded child as well, so it's all love here.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay Ally!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Go Ally! Go Kearney! Go Ally! Go Kearney!

I just don't like extraneous arguments, I mean honestly now.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

lots of killing joke racist bullshit too!!!!!!!!!

sub-trifean at best (jdesouza), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Another thought: Despite the fact that I suspect anyone who expresses support for President Bush to be somewhat of a FUCKING MORON, I don't necessarily bemoan anyone's right to express their political opinions, so long as they express them with some degree of thought/insight/evidence to suggest an informed examination of the facts. Britney's statement....and let me dust it off and wheel it out one more time....

"Honestly, I think we should just trust our President in every decision that he makes, and we should just support that."

.....just doesn't suggest that she's spent any time familiarizing herself with the topic at hand. Rather, it says to me that she's perfectly happy tow whatever line is handed to her in the interests of maintaining face and insuring a controversy-free career trajectory.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

(picture of Ginger Spice here)

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

lots of killing joke racist bullshit too!!!!!!!!!

I know that's a joke (no pun intended), but I'm tired of seeing "racist" appear in conjunction with Killing Joke. Say what you want about me, but don't drag the Joke into it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

THE FACT THAT BUSH IS PRESIDENT IS COMPLETELY INCIDENTAL TO THE MEAT OF BRITNEY'S STATEMENT.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, she doesn't mention Bush at all--it's completely a blind statement of "respect" for authority. "He is the leader ergo we should listen".

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

yes i imagine she would have made the same statement if gore (or whomever) were president. of course there's no way to know for sure save for stalking her and repeatedly asking her opinion on sundry specific political issues. i nominate marcello.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I nominate Alex!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

You could send both of them.

http://www.paarsarg.de/bilder/common/kunden006.jpg

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

http://kclibrary.nhmccd.edu/bert.jpg
(Only with two Berts.)

(You really don't want to know what Google Image search returns as the top search result for "Bert & Ernie", especially if you are at work.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.infoideas.net/britney/americangirl/britney_americangirl2.gif

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

So, of course I looked.

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, the search that worked for me was "Bert Ernie" (not in quotes), for those of you who want to try it at home.

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I nominate Killing Joke.

http://killing-joke.com/band88unclesam2.JPG

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus god why did I look.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"C is for 'cookie', it's good enough for me"

dave q, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha it's like our own little version of "The Ring".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that really Roger Ebert?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry to beat the dead-horse executive branch isue, but I have to repeat, as far the

Bush was democratically elected, Florida chads or no Florida chads

thing goes:

1) As pointed out upthread, it's a republican democracy--so not exactly, even in a routine year.
2) "Democratically elected" = won popular vote = Gore.
3) The judicial branch selected our 43rd president.

Which is all also kinda interesting if you buy into the (perhaps wishful) framing of the pres. as the champion of the people against little-r republican tyranny; according to this school he really is supposed to be more specifically responsive to, concerned with their welfare.

But I'm at a complete loss as to how to rebut the fiendish "chads or no chads" argument.

PS How come nobody mentioned Britney's gum? Her own dumb fault but the endless close-up was pretty cheap.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i agree with ronan.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Strange world.

Rather than stop at just the Bert & Ernie pic, I plundered forth into the master "don't blow" website (which has a lot of strange links on it... like the one advertising Japanese Girlfart Videos), and found this, which ties directly into the main topic.

Sure backed into that one, huh?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I cant find anything on google. Could someone kindly link me please? Dunno what i'm looking for.

Rhonda, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

You've got to do the search at the image search engine. And I do mean you've got to.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

yknow this thread would be the perfect introduction to ilx: alex going off on something, marcello being the contrarian, mark diverting it into a debate about the civil war and the nature of democracy, ally being ally, dan being dan, some guy being annoying, bush, britney, ernie and bert, roger ebert, someone saying "oh god why did i look at that," and finally me making some dumb meta-comment about it. we should put it in the FAQ, it's got everything!

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It hasn't got Geir.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

But, I mean, yeah... aside from that.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

It needs Gareth going off drunkenly on the lack of love around here, and then maybe someone posting "twwwwoooo weeeeeeeks" and then Miccio referencing Good CHarlotte, then it'd have everything ever.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

you forgot my snappy one liner :(

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sorry :(

And also Blount saying jess is otm :(

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread seems to be, oddly enough, Ned free. Certainly not normal.

And I've just posted in it, which makes it highly atypical as well.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been reading it but wasn't much compelled to post.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay folks, we can FAQ this one up! Admins, lock it up for posterity!

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

jess is OTM.

James Blount (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

what did he say? i can't be assed scrolling up

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 04:30 (twenty-two years ago)


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