― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link
(kidding)
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link
Sleater-Kinney - "Call the Doctor"Mogwai - "Mogwai Fear Satan" Cocteau Twins - "Summerhead" Tricky - "Christiansand" Dubstar - "Stars" Slowdive - "Avalyn"
Also I realized that I'm not a CIF after all. Should I be relieved?
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link
(xpost to Shmool)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah I wanna know the Waits "Who Are You" results as well.
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link
xp yeah snoop needed to get some love. and you're thinking of something else, aaron (do you mean Black Star - Children's Story? Children's Story is probably the most covered rap song ever)
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Did no one remember I Love Your Smile?! I thought that would be massively popular, but no.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 11 November 2004 10:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 11 November 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
After seeing the video for another track with that Brian Green guy from 90210, my goodwill died stillborn.
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link
Roxy totally OTM. Song 2 getting into this list is maybe the biggest mindfuck of all.
I also calculated that if I'd remembered to vote for California Love it'd have been at about 21 instead of 29. Boo.
Ang big love to my man Snoop!
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
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and that is why this and every poll is flawed in some way or another. -- todd swiss, November 11th, 2004.
The results certainly aren't 'whites only', blount, it's kind of unfair to suggest that people are operating a sonic apartheid, don't you think? -- Kevin Gilchrist, November 11th, 2004.
I can't imagine in what universe 5 geto boys tracks would have made a list like this. So perhaps part of watching your favorite genre consistently marginalized is a part of it. -- djdee2005, November 11th, 2004.
well not everyone voted for the 'homophobe' option last tuesday either kg but they won anyway, here you don't even need a majority of the vote to get it twisted, just four or five st. etienne singles. -- cinniblount, November 11th, 2004.
Kevin points out that the results are not "whites only." Despite the overrepresentation of certain bands (none of which I am even really familiar with except in the vaguest way, incidentally), the list isn't a "whites only" list. I don't see where you really acknowledge that. Instead you continue to complain about too many selections from certain bands, while associating the results of this ILM poll with the recent U.S. presidential election (the results of which most of us think were very bad if not simply a disaster), something far more serious.
I don't think listening to music according to racial quotas makes a lot of sense, but I guess this language will lead to accusations that I subscribe to the National Review or have a eugenics meeting to attend, or the usual nonsense.
x-post: thank you Martin.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
England, c. 1990-99 ;)
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
(As for blount, he has found a way to bully people and feel self-righteous at the same time. That's what it comes down to.)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link
In what world does Saint Etienne qualify as "British rock revivalism"? (or Pulp for that matter?!)
Like I said before, I voted for four Saint Etienne songs and three Pulp songs (I also nominated Quad City DJs if that matters, it apparently does for some reason...). Hey, maybe it's fanboyism -- they could be my two favorite artists ever -- but I'm not sure how not being 'bright' enters into it: Why is a strong connection with an artist a matter of having an improper level of intelligence or sub-CIF thought? Or, if this is what you're implying, why is voting/listening primarily with your head more proper than primarily voting/listening with your heart? (If anything, the "right" Saint Etienne songs just happened to be nominated. If a completely different five St. Et. songs were picked, there's no way they'd have all made it-- and if all five St. Et. LPs get in, that will be a bit puzzling.)
(fwiw, "Common People" won this by a significant margin, it's apparently not just a small group of racist fanboys voting for them.)
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
if the Geto Boys had made #1, there would probably be accusations of an offensive irony flying around (altho many genuinely like their track there still seems to be a sense that they are the token 'joke'/cool entry) - please nobody tell me how much they genuinely do like 'mind playin tricks on me' now tho. i don't care, i never heard it until it was nominated but don't consider that to be that big a flaw (lots of other tracks could've ended up in the position, including many from the omgwtflol poll which had accusations of quasi-racism flying around too). you can never win really.
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't seem to be the only one who has "misunderstood" you here either.
I'd be interested in knowing who ILXors in general think resorts to bullying more, you or me, blount.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link