the video played with my point-of-view and challenged my sympathies, all of which is something that good music and videos can do.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, April 26, 2010 10:08 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
rly? i wasn't glued to the screen, but it was kind of saying The Man is bad, although the fact that he was rounding up redheads is kind of quirky. it definitely has a 'punishment park' vibe, and 'punishment park' is didactic, hectoring shit.
― Norway, that's where I'm a viking! (history mayne), Monday, 26 April 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
for the first few seconds when it started, i figured we were seeing soldiers either invading a terrorist cell, or the cradle of a drug empire, or in the middle of a dangerous war zone, and i sympathized with how dangerous a job they have. after that, everything obv. changed. but those first few seconds, paired against the rest of the video were jarring and left an impression on me.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 26 April 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Kudos for spotting the Punishment Park "homage" guys, but you do know that the average MIA fan in 2010 will have absolutely no frame of reference for that movie, right?
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 April 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, the redhead thing was strange. i think i spotted mich hucknall among those rounded up.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 26 April 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
o_O
it's by MIA and it's called 'born free' and the army dudes look as sinister as fuck
xpost
― Norway, that's where I'm a viking! (history mayne), Monday, 26 April 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
the average MIA fan in 2010 will have absolutely no frame of reference for that movie, right?
idk, over-educated cinephiles are probably a core part of her audience
you're right that since it's from m.i.a., i should have assumed something like what unfolded.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 26 April 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
would think MIA fans in 2010 are more likely to have heard about or seen Punishment Park than even collegiate music fans in earlier eras, considering no studio would put it out and the film was released on dvd in 2005.
― da croupier, Monday, 26 April 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
it's still pretty obscure, but probably less so now than ever
― da croupier, Monday, 26 April 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah I've never heard of Punishment Park before this thread (not that I am claiming myself as a typical MIA fan)
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean i know what punishment is
and i know what a park is
― max, Monday, 26 April 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah waht is it
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Monday, 26 April 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
lol sorry for bringing up something ppl might not have heard of
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a boring movie about cops hunting hippies whose wikipedia page is linked to twice upthread
― da croupier, Monday, 26 April 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
gotta say, I liked the song better in the video, when it got all dubby and then came back strong. that was cool.
Still wish I hadn't watched it though.
― Fellini.Kuti, Monday, 26 April 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't imagine all the publicists now calling pfork and the like to get their shitty indie bands to take over their twitters
― eyes without afaik (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 April 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
ayup, im intentionally not reading any of the twitter posts because i like the idea of MIA that exists in my mind and i want to keep it that way
― imma sb (samosa gibreel), Monday, 26 April 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
be kind of awesome if this album was total Flowers Of Romance wtfery
― da croupier, Monday, 26 April 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
yes and no; it would be awesome but I also like my sparkly politically-confused club trax
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
1000timesyes today @1000timesyes will be taken over by Fang Island! they will be using the hashtag #1000timesfangisland
― nabisco infiltrator (J0rdan S.), Monday, 26 April 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
even better if it was more like second edition, but yes
― nakhchivan, Monday, 26 April 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
then again she completely tricked me with where she was going to go on Kala with "Bird Flu" so basically all we can say for sure is that there will be music and it will have messages in it that are equal parts cogent, indecipherable and reprehensible
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
true nuff
― da croupier, Monday, 26 April 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not very keen on Born Free but the particularly pointed kind of schadenfreude you get on these threads whenever MIA releases something that's any less than storming is totally lame.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 April 2010 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link
the particularly pointed kind of schadenfreude you get on these threads whenever MIA releases something that's any less than storming is totally lame.
otm
― what a tragedy for gingers (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, as much as I like her music, the notion that she could have a twitter feed that wasn't completely obnoxious and ridiculous is kind of amusing.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
real talk
― what a tragedy for gingers (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I think there would be less schadenfreude if people weren't consistently told by her, lots of her fans and lots of the press that everything she did was revolutionary cutting edge life changing uber-music. Her schtick can be pretty annoying if it's not backed up by really good music.
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 07:42 (fourteen years ago) link
She is a pop star. For better or for worse she is clearly trying to be very popular or effect popular culture in some way. I like that she prances around, making ridiculous statements, and courting attention. She wants as many people to hear her music as possible. Her music is better, more vital etc... than most of the other dross that is in or near to the charts.
― Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 08:15 (fourteen years ago) link
oh my fucking god it's that old "pop stars must say stupid shit and look dumb at all times" chestnut again
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 08:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry. I find this model 'stupid shit look dumb' quite entertaining. Certainly makes these boards a whole lot more interesting if a little whiny and self important.
― Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 08:29 (fourteen years ago) link
CNN story:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/27/mia.music.video/index.html?hpt=T2
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
The video's 'disturbing' but rather shallow, I thought.
― Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
"If you look at M.I.A.'s life, there is a history of political activism," Pasulka said. "She's the daughter of a revolutionary who fought for an independent state in Sri Lanka, so she is obviously trying to make a political statement."
...
"I would say she out-GaGaed Lady GaGa," Pasulka said. "This has the potential for even more coverage than all of the interest that surrounded 'Telephone.' "
― da croupier, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
love the song, dig the video conceptually but think the execution is weak
― Yonder Mountain Zing Band (Tape Store), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
(lol, no pun intended)
― Yonder Mountain Zing Band (Tape Store), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
M.I.A.: Out-GaGaing Lady GaGa in 2010.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Ga(lang)Ga(lang).
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
fuck's sake why are there people taking her "revolutionary" "activism" remotely seriously
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't really mind that she's kind of stupid as long as she comes up with banging hooks like "bamboo banga" or hits upon an observational vein that works like "hussel" but this is ridic
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Love how open that person is about exploiting her "politics."
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe it's empty vaguely rebellious shtick, but she's squawky and it fits with her squawkiness
― imma sb (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
thought at first the video was gonna be like america was no longer merely in the green zone of a hypermegaglobalwar which woulda been a more interesting contention to me, but then the redheads thing feels gimmicky and yeah, shallow. too entrenched already as a facile metaphor for discrimination to have some other meaning here. i guess the state deriving its authority from coercive force is a meaning that remains: that's scary & acquiescing is in tension with being "born free".
― dipset infiltrator (zvookster), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
m.i.a. is passé. pasulka needs to be more forward-thinking: who will out-gaga the woman who out-gaga'ed lady gaga?
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
although the fact that he was rounding up redheads is kind of quirky.
It reminds me of when grade school teachers try to show why the Jim Crow South was unjust by segregating the class into blue eyed and brown eyed students and treating them differently. It's meant to show the arbitrary or absurd nature of discrimination but to most people it's just lol u silly.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
it's meant to show the arbitrary or absurd nature of discrimination
is it here tho? i don't see how it can when the obvious parallel to this vid is raids on households in asia & the middle east and wartime atrocities. could it be a comment of some kind on immigration or racial profiling (spheres where the state is a coercive actor)? or just a "quirky" non-idea.
― dipset infiltrator (zvookster), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I like the idea and the message behind the video, but the message probably would have gotten through better with a little less graphic violence. A lot of people will never see this because of exaggerated graphicness. And, oh, I guess the gratious nudity early on is alone enough to get it banned from most American channels.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link
racial profiling ethnic cleansing
― what a tragedy for gingers (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I like the idea and the message behind the video, but the message probably would have gotten through better with a little less graphic violence.
geir..............otm?
― what a tragedy for gingers (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link
http://stevehickey.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/70srapture.jpg
― rapping about space and shit, floatin’ around in an orgy of screen savers (gbx), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link