TOOL - C/D!?

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Congratz!

I still think it's their best album (only a couple of tracks on AEnima and Lateralus have remained interesting, now I've checked them out again after a couple of years, while this one has completely taken over my stereo over the last couple of weeks, not a bad track on there, even the fillers are necessary resting moments), but after a brief internal struggle I've been able to emotionally detach enough to objectively read it and agree with Ned: it's a great review.

But anyway - this whole meta thing (fans vs. reviewers) is old and pointless, so I'll shut up about it.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:28 (twenty years ago)

i saw a commercial a few days ago that i almost thought was a fruitopia (is that stuff even around anymore?) ad at first... turned out it was for the new tool album.

spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:39 (twenty years ago)

there used to be a fruitopia machine at my local home depot.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:59 (twenty years ago)

that is indeed a great review.

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:08 (twenty years ago)

great review jess!

definitely an improvement over brent d's wankfest of a review for Lateralus.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:14 (twenty years ago)

care to post some of the hate mail?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

fruitoolpia

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

That Tool score was far too high. At least The White Rose Movements got a higher score than the Tool album at Pitchdork, which wasn't the case at Stylus. Then again, BOTH sites ranked Wolfmother higher. Do you people known anything about music?

But hey, the next time you're sneering at someone in a Tool shirt, just remember how retarded you look walking down the street with the words "The Boy Least Likely To" or "Clap Your Hands Say Yeah" across your chest.

Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:10 (twenty years ago)

The entire Nu Metal genre was dud, but Tool are at least really excellent musicians, just they are using their skills in the wrong way.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

This must be some new use of the word "excellent".

Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:12 (twenty years ago)

"Then again, BOTH sites ranked Wolfmother higher. Do you people known anything about music?"

Dude, that Wolfmother LP rocks way harder than the new Tool does.

Crack a beer, smoke a joint (you ARE a Tool fan after all) and give it another listen, it's fuckin' great.

The tool I find to be a bit like a more adventurous "Lateralus".

For me, "Aemima" was tops for them. Such a great fucking album.

But anyway, to each their own, but Wolfmother rocks.

Erock LAzron, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:22 (twenty years ago)

Also, both those indie bands that you mentioned, in my opinion, suck.

And I wouldn't sneer at a Tool fan, I'd just remember how much I used to like them

Erock LAzron, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:24 (twenty years ago)

Dude, that Wolfmother LP rocks way harder than the new Tool does.

It might.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm still annoyed at Wolfmother's decision to ditch the rawer sound of their EP (Vertigo Records vintage 1971!). The re-recorded versions are so lifeless. "The White Unicorn" sounded better taking its time.

Ryan Pitchfork (Ryan Pitchfork), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 04:26 (twenty years ago)

"Then again, BOTH sites ranked Wolfmother higher. Do you people known anything about music?"

Dude, that Wolfmother LP rocks way harder than the new Tool does.

Crack a beer, smoke a joint (you ARE a Tool fan after all) and give it another listen, it's fuckin' great.

The tool I find to be a bit like a more adventurous "Lateralus".

For me, "Aemima" was tops for them. Such a great fucking album.

But anyway, to each their own, but Wolfmother rocks.

-- Erock LAzron (erockzombi...), May 3rd, 2006.

Also, both those indie bands that you mentioned, in my opinion, suck.

And I wouldn't sneer at a Tool fan, I'd just remember how much I used to like them

-- Erock LAzron (erockzombi...), May 3rd, 2006.

OK, who's trolling at my expense here?

Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 05:42 (twenty years ago)

one of the reasons i love tool is because "aenima" reminds me of being 16 and being stoned all the time and driving around the wilderness of northern maine with little else to do besides listen to music and, uh, get high. oh, and also because eight years later i still love it, as well as all their other albums.

though i must say: upon only two listens to "10,000 days" i can't say that i'm all that impressed. i heard the first single a month ago and could predict every chord change. but it must grow on me, i suppose.

Emily B (Emily B), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 06:07 (twenty years ago)

i'm really surprised at how much i'm loving this new album.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

The entire Nu Metal genre was dud

What exactly is "nu-metal" and how does it relate to Tool? I thought "nu metal" basically related to rap-metal, which doesn't seem related to Tool in the slightest. Tool always seemed more aligned with Progressive Metal or Art Metal or Alt Metal or whatever empty moniker you choose for it. It has nothing to do with Korn or Linkin Park.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu-metal

Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:21 (twenty years ago)

owned! wikipedia is the unassailable, definitive, unquestionable source on everything!

Alex in Baghdad, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:25 (twenty years ago)

Wikipedia contains the answers to every question anyone could possibly ask

Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:26 (twenty years ago)

LOCK THIS THREAD

Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:01 (twenty years ago)

what genre is Radiohead an avatar for?

is this a trick question, Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:09 (twenty years ago)

Goth

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:13 (twenty years ago)

Coldplay

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:21 (twenty years ago)

Both true.

I've been slowly sinking into the album on and off for the last week and a half -- it's taken more time for me to get into than Lateralus but I think I've 'got' the album now, in my own sense of it, and it goes like this: the equivalent of the dramatic closing triptych on Lateralus are the two parts of "10,000 Days" itself, which are placed much earlier in the album. In otherwards, in a weird way, this is less an album that builds up to an explosive ending/epilogue than it is one detailing an extended aftermath, thanks to its sequencing. More thoughts later.

Meantime, though, I'm tickled to have noticed this:

According to Neilsen SoundScan, "10,000 Days" sold a whopping 564,000 copies in its first week here in the US, landing at #1 in the Billboard Top 200 and outselling Pearl Jam's new album (#2) by a little more than 2-to-1.

It seems right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 May 2006 23:21 (twenty years ago)

As a fan of the previous albums, I fucking hate this one. So. much.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 00:47 (twenty years ago)

The new Pearl Jam is, sadly, so very much better.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 00:48 (twenty years ago)

I must sweetly disagree with you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 11:30 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps the worst band of all time.

Seth (Sef), Sunday, 14 May 2006 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that was useful! I don't know what got into me, being impressed by their music, lyrics and art like that. Thanks to your insightful post, I have now seen the light and will never listen to them again. Thank you!

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 14 May 2006 12:45 (twenty years ago)

http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/45019/

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 14 May 2006 12:54 (twenty years ago)

holy shit that video is amazing!

punis (punis), Sunday, 14 May 2006 14:19 (twenty years ago)

The world would be a considerably better place if Maynard had died and Staley survived...

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Are they scared to write a memorable song?

Seth Powell (Sef), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:46 (twenty years ago)

The world would be a considerably better place if Maynard had died and Staley survived...

Hmm, now the Lollapalooza 1993 flashbacks are kicking in (Maynard backed up Layne pretty well on "Rooster," it has be said).

Are they scared to write a memorable song?

Desperate but not serious, I see.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Their new album is amazing. Bought it first day of release and seem to play it over and over again.

BeeOK (boo radley), Sunday, 14 May 2006 17:13 (twenty years ago)

i like that siegbran finds the time to pop in and dis tool! there is something about this band...they bring it out in people.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

i like that siegbran finds the time to pop in and dis tool!

I like it too! I have my parallels. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

my theory is that there are certain bands-- Tool included-- that wouldn't bother people so much if there wasn't such a good reason to despite their fan base.

punis (punis), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:44 (twenty years ago)

haha
owned! wikipedia is the unassailable, definitive, unquestionable source on everything!

-- Alex in Baghdad (fdslk...), May 4th, 2006.

so, Primus and Tool started nu-metal. Wow. I can see how Rage are linked but if you can say just because the band members of Korn and Linkin Park admire Tool, that they were the god fathers, you'd be a ratard. They probably also like the agression in bands like Pantera, doesn't mean they're god fathers to such a god'forsakin' horrid genre though.

boo! (micarl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:14 (twenty years ago)

the new CD is solid. takes a few listens and there are some preludes which could be left out but over all, i like it

boo! (micarl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:16 (twenty years ago)

i heard a tool fan trying to convert a non-believer a couple weeks ago in the record store and i did kinda want to kill him.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

new album kinda roolz!

city of gyros (chaki), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

wait, let me amend that. the other dude was ALREADY a tool fan and the uber-tool fan was still trying to convert him. that's what bugged me. dude was cornered. "HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THEM LIVE?" "nnnn...no" "IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO SEE THEM LIVE OH MY GOD GO!!" it went on like that for quite a while. dude should have said yes.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:30 (twenty years ago)

Lord.

My friend Tom out here says that when he went to get the album on the day of release, they had already sold out at the Best Buy he was at, and the various fans there forlornly looking for a record and commiserating with him on the state of affairs included a Mexican-American woman in her late forties and a biker dude in his late twenties or so. Tool, the band that brings everyone together (when the uberfans don't get in the way).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

Many monkeys squabbling angrily over a bag of peanuts.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Monday, 15 May 2006 01:37 (twenty years ago)

Stop Removing or Altering The Tool References From The Article

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:47 (twenty years ago)

I like this kid's crazy list of what constitutes a metal band.

"Its sound can change because of technology, but most of the time you can´t guess the release year of a song you don´t know. It doesn´t follow trends."

"Its music does not have lyrics with common topics you can found in radio"

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:56 (twenty years ago)

btw sry if i suck at this..im new at Wikipedia

A Perfect Tool among many!

George 'the Animal' Steele, Monday, 15 May 2006 02:20 (twenty years ago)


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