Blur: Classic Or Dud

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yeah i don't agree with this. MLIR came out well before Definitely Maybe and was the benchmark of their sound. Anything else that came after was entirely independent of what Oasisever did.

the next grozart, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I can sort of see why he thinks this: The whole Oasis escapade could make someone run a mile from making more 'commercial stuff, but Damon's always been a musical butterfly really.

Mark G, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

If there was no such thing as Pavement, then Blur would still have been playing roughly the same style they did in the mid 90s.

-- Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:25 (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

fixed!

...I kid, I kid..

Finefinemusic, Thursday, 14 August 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I love them. The Great Escape was a bit disappointing, but apart from that, I think they were brilliant.

Inertia_90, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Of course you do, even your username is a Blur song! :D Who am I to talk, my email is based on Theme From An Imaginary Film.

Finefinemusic, Thursday, 14 August 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

The Great Escape is a very, very good album in my view, and I'm infamous for preferring their more experimental stuff. It knocks the spots off MLIR and Parklife. I'd even prefer it to "Blur" these days.

Just got offed, Thursday, 14 August 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

To me, The Great Escape, apart from The Universal, epitomised Britpop at its very worst. The lyrics are weak, the melodies barely register, and the songs lean too heavily on horns and other production flourishes. Maybe I need to listen to it some more, but as it stands, it's the only Blur LP I cannot stand.

Inertia_90, Friday, 15 August 2008 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Fake Louis.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, it was A Blur Album, with all the constituent parts in place, including the 'character' pieces a'la Ray Davies and so on. But the buttons being pushed were all worn out.

That 'pavement' fix comment isn't so far away from the truth.

Mark G, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Quelle bullshit. It might still be their best album. But really you had to be there at the time.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I was! Why call bull?

I like other albums more. Five, off the top of my head

Mark G, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link

multixpost
The Great Escape is the dark heart of britpop and presciently is infused with disappointment and rage. Almost as if they new what was to come post Blair's election. If you can't see past some of the more outre production touches then that's your loss.

Billy Dods, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank you sir.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link

By being "there at the time" I also meant "being in West London" which obviously everyone couldn't be but I'm just saying that when you experienced the environment every day TGE was very easy to understand and grasp.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, I can go with that.

there are too many total turkeys on it for me, but the highlights on it are some of their best.

xpost Oh, I do, I do. I'm not saying it's a bad album.

Mark G, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:19 (fifteen years ago) link

(thinks: Was I in West London then? mmmm... Yes. I was.)

Mark G, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmmm bhmm hummmh hummmmmnh humnn hbmn hjm hm mhm hm DUD

strgn, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Asa 16 year old in Devon it didn't really do it for me.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 15 August 2008 09:30 (fifteen years ago) link

The Great Escape was the last Blur album I discovered; I'd been holding out on it for fear it was the cliched Britpoppy sell-out disaster I'd been promised. What I got instead was this vast, dark, nauseous treaty on the rottenness of Middle England, with some cracking tunes and genuinely original arrangements. I think it's fab. Although not my favourite song, the key to the album is probably "Fade Away". To many it sounds tacky. To me it sounds fabulously diseased.

Just got offed, Friday, 15 August 2008 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Blog this, Louis. Blog Blur.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 15 August 2008 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't heard the B-sides :(

Just got offed, Friday, 15 August 2008 10:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't care.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 15 August 2008 10:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I want 500 words on The Great Escape.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 15 August 2008 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link

OK! I might incorporate all the other albums, tho, just for context...

Just got offed, Friday, 15 August 2008 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link

No, just this one. Mention them not no exegesis.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 15 August 2008 10:22 (fifteen years ago) link

All done. Editors out there, here's a dude who works to schedule. ;-)

Just got offed, Friday, 15 August 2008 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link

The production really doesn't bother me, except in the sense that it's only there to hide a bunch of sub-par songs. And I was there, though I suppose I was too young to fully appreciate the context of the record and all that. To me, "Country House" is just a relic of the 90s, like "wannabe" or the first Britney Spears record. I love Blur, but TGE is just shite.

Inertia_90, Saturday, 16 August 2008 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

not one word on ilx about the hyde park show next year! my, times have changed...

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

is this a one-off gig or is this a "we're back" type of show?

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

They said this is going to be one of some other shows. They're already rehearsing. My, I really wish they'd come to America.

elgolfo, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Discussed it already on the 'Cooler. Came to the conclusion that, after the first "oh wow, Graham's in..." reaction, we weren't that bothered.

The All-Singing All-Dancing Unstoppable Kate (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Pretty much the least surprising reformation ever, isn't it? Though I've no idea (other than "for money") why Graham and Damon would want to re-saddle themselves with those two other pricks. They are much more fun on their own.

everything, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno, it's nice for people to go have a good day out, see band, smile, etc.

If they want to make more new music, then we'll celebrate.

They're doing the 'hey we never actually split up' bit at the moment, so we'll see...

Mark G, Thursday, 11 December 2008 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link

TGE is the weakest of their 3 Britpop albums, certainly, but it does have that quality of the emptiness at the heart of the 90s party. Coxon's guitar was always the best part of them, for me, and the Country House solo one of his finest moments.
Yes, they're character actors, media chancers who never made an original sound, but they did it with some panache.
I will still listen to Modern Life is Rubbish and parts of Parklife and later albums.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 11 December 2008 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I've no idea (other than "for money") why Graham and Damon would want to re-saddle themselves with those two other pricks.

"Word" on the "street" is Graham's skinto and has had to flog his country pile (how big is it? etc), and so has been compelled to get in line. I must admit to a real shiver of excitement the first time i saw the new D&G arm-in-arm pics. They're a cracking team, no matter how much (or of course precisely becuase) they wind each other up.

I'd imagine there's also a degree of now-extremely-wealthy Damon helping out his evidently-gifted-but-chaotic/mentally iffy mate in a time of need.

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

If they want to make more new music, then we'll celebrate.

we will?

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

for sure! another non-graham blur album would be perhaps a little pointless, but sticking them back together for another pop will at least be interesting.

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

they were pointless and boring the first time round. NO MORE esp not for these awful nostalgia fests which are at least providing me with a template on how not to be when i am old.

lex pretend, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

but if you won't remember danity kane who will?

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

the brainwasher

lex pretend, Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

see, calling blur pointless is one thing, but srsly lex if you actually think they're *boring* i can only assume you've only heard singles?

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, don't...

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

argh! too late...

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 11 December 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

"boring" is lex-ese for "i don't like it"

I dont pay for someone elses shopping or a half eaten loaf of bread. (burn it), Thursday, 11 December 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Christ almighty.

Anyone fancy a "Blur:Are Shite Once Again" T-Shirt? (Read the following in a General Crozier style Metalocalypse voice, to yourself obviously. If you don't know what Metalocalypse is, then it's your own fault and this will be even less funny than it already is)

It seeeeeems as if the seminal britpop band called Blur want to get back together again to make astounding new music. This could have catastrophic effects on our youth and middle-aged citizens. As the world's 4th biggest economy, Blur's surprise re-union could have destabilizing ramifications which are too legion to be properly explained here. Only Patrick David Xavier McMeneman-McHanarahan, our specialist re-union specialist, can even start to describe the disastrous potency of this formative party's re-grouping on the world's already dangerous pre-apocalyptic position. He says, "Their imperial designs know no bounds and we will have to use all of our vigor and guile to disperse this potential doomsday-making scenario else we sprint toward a life-ending britalocalypse". He added: "Damon Albarn-Taller than a Chinese tree; Graham Coxon: Not a bumblebee; Dave Rowntree: Diddy Doo Diddly Doo Labour loser Doo Diddly Doo; Alex James: Cheese master in more ways than one."

http://mogwai.co.uk

James Mitchell, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Well I don't care what anyone else thinks, I'm happy about it. Whatever happens can't possibly suck the way Think Tank did.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

You reckon? Think Tank is a repulsive album but this is already sounding like an epic disaster.

From North to Ibiza (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

this is already sounding like an epic disaster.

Care to explain how? I mean, it isn't as if they've announced reunion shows on the moon or a comeback space rock opera album. They've announced some shows. Bad idea? Maybe. Epic Disaster? Come on...

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Fair enough.

From North to Ibiza (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

reunion shows on the moon or a comeback space rock opera album

Either of these things would, actually make me THE HAPPIEST GIRL IN THE WORLD!!!!

carrotcake.wav (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 11 December 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link


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