Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

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universal's a great karaoke song (duh). country house is surprisingly hard to sing, they really cram the words in, plus it's a naff tune.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

What "isms" did I accuse anyone of? I just said that "Pony" was robbed.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

freaknasty was robbed, that's what was robbed

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

robble robble

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, and how about "Djed"?
(Didn't Gear suggest that he'd post all the results?)

― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I have not heard (of) 30% of the top ten, including #1.
Suppose I ought to go a huntin'.
I too am astonished by Pony not placing.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the repetitive dirge of Girls and Boys that drives me nuts.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"dirge"?! Its the least dirge-like of any of their music!

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but the bit of music under say, "who do girls", those three 'sound' just repeat through the chorus - it's horrible.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

one last comment about the whole anglo vs. rap or whatever djdee was whining about (also alex in sf). the problem with your arguments is that you would of had absolutely no problem if five geto boys tracks made the list, or 5 tracks from your favorite southern rap (or any rap for the matter) artist. i have no problem with the list, no matter what happened.

i just think you kids are being a little hypocritical. i dont even like saint etienne and i dont give a fuck that 5 of their tracks showed up. its a poll that measures the likes and dislikes of ilm.

sure, its flawed. any poll is. get over yourselves.

― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - todd if you haven't changed your 'argument' four or five times now you might have a point (might)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i think djdee changed his mind a few times as well, but whatever. no use bitching about a poll. i like the way it turned out. some people are sour about it.

― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

well since the poll does reflect the board i think a few people (more than a few maybe even)(though nowhere near the majority) might be sour that a significant chunk of the board has a 'whites only' policy when it comes to music yes.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

and that is why this and every poll is flawed in some way or another.

― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The results certainly aren't 'whites only', blount, it's kind of unfair to suggest that people are operating a sonic apartheid, don't you think?

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't imagine in what universe 5 geto boys tracks would have made a list like this. So perhaps part of watching your favorite genre consistently marginalized is a part of it.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

well not everyone voted for the 'homophobe' option last tuesday either kg but they won anyway, here you don't even need a majority of the vote to get it twisted, just four or five st. etienne singles.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i understand that you can be upset that your favorite genre is marginalized, but you cant expect that result from a board in which the majority hasnt even heard 5 songs by the geto boys

― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

the majority hasn't heard five songs by pulp either!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

My #1 was Tom Waits "Who Are You", which got no love, apparently.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, but there were a lot of black artists on the list - not enough, maybe, but people did vote for them.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh come off it Geto Boys only have 3 good songs!

(kidding)

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

some people. some people voted for five or six pulp, five or six st. etienne and whatever the correct blur one is (not apparently 'song 2' or 'coffee and tv' or 'boys and girls'). really, taking race out the equation (which is doing these people a favor they maybe don't deserve), this is just rampant fanboyism, the sort of daftness that's not even bright enough to qualify as corny indie fuxxthought. ie. has anyone on the 'there was other even better music during the nineties besides british rock revivalism' "side" suggested four or five geto boys should've been there instead of four or five pulp?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I would like to state for the record that "Damn it Feels Good To Be A Gangsta" is my favorite song of all time. Not just favorite rap song, favorite song PERIOD.
If it was nominated on here ol' Tom Waits woulda been #2.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

michael bolton!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(it was me saying no to Boys and Girls, and I hate Blur in their entireity, as with Pulp, though both have one or two good songs. Britpop was mostly awful)

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

My top four votes are slightly humorous in the context of this argument, and may prove or disprove someone's point, I dunno.
1. Tom Waits - "Who Are You"
2. Wu-Tang Clan – “Shame on a Nigga”
3. Pulp - "Common People"
4. Geto Boys - "Mind Playing Tricks on Me"

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

what album is that waits single from?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Bone Machine, recorded in Cotati, CA where I used to live.
I voted it #1 as a hometown pride thing (Waits also lives in Sonoma County, where I grew up). Plus the lyrics, singing and melody are fuckin rad.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

though the g-funk junior high dance canon is actually well represented on the list (Dr. Dre's probably the top producer on the list, right?), I am saddened that "This is how we do it" didn't make it, and would like to lodge a formal complaint with ILM or at the very least find out how it placed. And how did shimmy shimmy ya do, anyways?

― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear, where did the following place?

Sleater-Kinney - "Call the Doctor"
Mogwai - "Mogwai Fear Satan"
Cocteau Twins - "Summerhead"
Tricky - "Christiansand"
Dubstar - "Stars"
Slowdive - "Avalyn"

Also I realized that I'm not a CIF after all. Should I be relieved?

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah and you r0x0r Gear!

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of which, I have no idea how "What's My Name" and "Gin and Juice" weren't nominated -- one or both would have placed.

(xpost to Shmool)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

This is How We Do It was just Slick Rick's "Children's Story" with cornier lyrics wasn't it? Or am I thinking of something else?

Yeah I wanna know the Waits "Who Are You" results as well.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

hey djdee, did you post your ballot?

xp yeah snoop needed to get some love. and you're thinking of something else, aaron (do you mean Black Star - Children's Story? Children's Story is probably the most covered rap song ever)

― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I meant the music. Some rap song ripped off the original music exactly.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really not sure if I've heard Mind Playing Tricks On Me, but I must have.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez Matt, download it. Totally worth it. Get "Damn it Feels Good to Be a Gangsta" and "Mind of A Lunatic" while you're at it.

― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never heard of the Geto Boys! I suspect I would like them though.

Did no one remember I Love Your Smile?! I thought that would be massively popular, but no.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 11 November 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope jess voted in this

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm kinda glad I didn't.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 11 November 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

bah

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Did no one remember I Love Your Smile?! I thought that would be massively popular, but no.

After seeing the video for another track with that Brian Green guy from 90210, my goodwill died stillborn.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, FUCK a bunch of Coffee and TV highest ranking Blur song, and fuck a PANTLOAD of Coffee and TV and Song 2 even placing, harumph, harumph, harumph. ILM, stop getting Blur wrong!

Roxy totally OTM. Song 2 getting into this list is maybe the biggest mindfuck of all.

I also calculated that if I'd remembered to vote for California Love it'd have been at about 21 instead of 29. Boo.

Ang big love to my man Snoop!

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't even consider voting for any Saint Etienne tracks, but trying to equate voting for them to some kind of musical racism is lunacy. You can prefer indie pop to hip hop without having a whites-only musical policy - it's that simple. I haven't checked how many people did vote for white acts only, or almost only, but there are other reasons for tastes leaning in particular directions than racism. (In case I get accused, since I am one of those dubious characters who absolutely loves Pulp, most of my all-time favourite music, and the areas I found most badly underrepresented in this poll, is black.)

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Song 2 is universally popular tho - people who haven't even heard any other Blur songs know and like Song 2. it's appearance here is really just a reflection of it's ubiquity compared to all other Blur singles.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

was 'black music' really under-represented in this poll? it seems 50/50 - unless you suggest that given how most music is of black origin anyway that the ratio should be weighted more in it's favour or something?

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, playing the race card here was pretty dumb
and desperate
and most of all, insulting on many levels

― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

it's too bad we always get bogged down in these political issues. tho you may argue that polls are only ever a political exercise anyway. i'm relatively satisfied with the list tho because i like everything on it apart from the couple i've not heard.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Song 2 is one of only two Blur tracks I like at all (MOR is the other), but it didn't come very close to my votes.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

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