Primal Scream.

2nd primal scream album is underrated

Vanishing Point is my fave, although I haven't heard an awful lot other than that and Screamadelica.

XTRMNTR only came out in Jan/Feb 2000

wau? i associate it vividly with a very specific time and place in my life, which i'd swear blind was pre-millennial 1999.

<googles, thinks, ponders>

ah, hang on. i got a promo. so although it's obviously later than i thought, i *was* listening to this before the millennium. good. i'm not losing my mind.

the only version thats been kicking around supposedly on mp3 version has been tracks with a 30 second loop stretching the songs out to full length.

uh oh.

this, er, might have been the version that...

...oh, it just doesn't bear thinking about.

a ha ha ha ha.

haha
with bobbys usual repetitive lyrics its probably hard to notice its just a loop.
But I think it's better to wait til a proper rip is out (i know I want to hear it before I buy it after the last album)

Hey, we've all done it.

Haven't we.

http://a0.vox.com/6a00c2251ce3f4f21900e398f379e80004-320pi

http://troubled-diva.com/themanwho.jpg

I got a d/l of "Run" Snow patrol, which was just the first line of the song repeated for 3 mins until it cut. I did think wow how intense in an indie way, until I heard the actual single...

Actually, on UniChall last night, one question referred to the HM Bateman cartoons, and "which three words" were his 'signature' cartoon captions..

"The Man Who"

Which explains that Travis album, all these years later.

I just hope the 30 second loops version isnt better than the proper.

"Sides two and four consist entirely of single tones maintained throughout, presumably produced electronically. This might sound arid, to say the least, but in fact constant listening reveals a curious point: the pitch of the tone alters frequently, but only by micro-tones or, at most, a semi-tone. This oscillation produces an almost subliminal, uneven 'beat' which maintains interest."

that travis record was disgrace, i bort it and took back to shopp ask them where is convoy gb and snooker loopie. he is imposters looks nothing like hairy monstar.

sides two and four consist entirely of single tones maintained throughout

my favourite music-hackery story ever, i think.

I just hope the 30 second loops version isnt better than the proper

i fear it will be.

"DEAR RICHARD THANK YOU FOR YOUR FANTASTIC REVIEW ON OUR WEDDING ALBUM INCLUDING C-AND-D SIDES STOP WE ARE CONSIDERING IT FOR OUR NEXT RELEASE STOP MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING THAT THEY ARE THE BEST SIDES STOP WE BOTH FEEL THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A CRITIC TOPPED THE ARTIST STOP WE ARE NOT JOKING STOP LOVE AND PEACE STOP JOHN AND YOKO LENNON"

Still absolutely the worst band ever.

As the person who gave M t-d the 30 second loop version I must add my shame and apologies before I delete the relevant files. Must confess that I'd listened to the album twice in the background and not noticed, but I was a bit confused when I checked out the supposed highlight 'Over and Over' which is a duet with Linda Thompson and couldn't hear her at all. Obviously she doesn't appear in the first thirty seconds...

I maintain the only really decent thing of Primal Scream is Screamadelica. End of story.

Yes!

Why does XTRMNTR get such props? It sounds like a parody record (Shields remix aside).

what's wrong with parody?

I love HM Bateman. Primal Scream, I can take or leave, though was pleasantly impressed by them on Johnny Ross last Friday night.

XTRMNTR still sounds like a dope pop album to me. I think it sounds different stateside where you don't get any bullshit promo for this band unless you seek it out---from what I gather, the band is pretty overbearing.

The lyrics on XTRMNTR make Rik from The Young Ones look like Friedrich Engels.

SYPHILITIC SWASTIKA
SHOOT IT INTO THE SUN
HIGHER THAN THE SICK SICK SUN
FUCK PARALYTIC DESTROY
I LOST MY GIRL TO A NAZI BOY

So Beautiful Future is rubbish, right? I've not heard it yet but a five-star OMM review is surely a good indicator... Anyway what do people think of the Andy Weatherall remix of Uptown? It's the best thing I've heard in ages...

Weatherall's Uptown remix is fantastic, and the album is not. It spurts to life in a couple of spots, but there isn't much to recommend it.

on a first listen, this is underwhelming as fuck. "glory of love" is OK once but THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS is taking the piss.

it sounds like an album without any balls. none at all. not even one really malformed one.

^ OTM. It's not so much that the album commits any musical crimes, but that it fails to engage on any level at all.

Top Tory broadsheet music writer I, ALEXIS likes it not (he does have a point though).

Point? I think he's spot on!

1) Screamadelica is their most celebrated album.

2) The album with the least singing/lyrical content from BGill is....

The crass Crass remark suggests that he'd think the same no matter who sung or wrote these sentiments or how they were performed or sung. Socialism is so irritating and unsexy, darlings...

Tim Burgess was repping Crass and Rudimentary Peni in the Big Issue recently. That was pretty wtf?

I mean:

Tim Burgess was repping, as a rapper would say, Crass and Rudimentary Peni in the Big Issue recently. That was pretty wtf?

Ah yes, non-tax paying American citizen Tim Burgess...

i like that guardian review a lot.

can i just say re tim burgess : umm wtf is with the new haircut ?
just looks soo wrong.

Petridis so read the ILX reaction to his review of whatever the last Primal Scream record was called. I remember people posting "omg *obviously* he thinks its shit even if he isn't saying so" and "has any band ever had such a free pass from the music press as Primal Scream?"

He hates us but can't live without us.

Do they get a free pass from the music press?

(Take yr point about the Crass mention)

Burgess' haircut is officially the worst haircut since John Mills in Hobson's Choice.

Hisa new haircut is coz he is hanging out at The Old Blue Last w/The Horrors and etc and is having a mid-life crisis of relevancy.

wig morelike.

Anyway, Bobby invented the commune notion which Crass later adopted when he put some string around his pram on a day out at Bothwell Castle, opened a tin of cold baked beans and said ye cannae come in.

Hahahahah

Do they get a free pass from the music press?

of course they do! they're hailed as this swaggering bunch of spirit-of-rock hedonists, who -- when they weren't busy ROCKING or LIVING ON THE EDGE -- invented THE 1990s AS WE KNOW IT, etc. when was the last time you saw a piece saying: "fucking hell, these increasingly irrelevant old tools should swivel?"

last time? Upthread, probably.

first time? Hmmm......

(Well, it was "Give out but" obv)

It works for them though - Primal Scream manage to appear second on the bill at every festival despite drawing a modest crowd each time and not really being that popular.

The low point of the album has to be their cover of Hawkwind's 'Urban Guerilla'. This was mildly embarrassing when Hawkwind wrote it (35 years ago, if memory serves, I bought a copy because it was kind of notorious). Now it's seriously embarrassing.

The Hawkwind original is great! NEVER wanna hear the Primal Scream version.