― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link
moron.
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
this seems a salient observation and i agree. though it would be interesting to see Touch do a top 100 albums - one assumes it would deliberately exclude 'NME music' in the way NME deliberately excludes 'Touch music' - the only overlaps being the Bristolian trip-hoppers, Dizzee and Roots.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
It is not something to take seriously unless you are 18 and smoke pot everyday.
Stevie OTM, do fuck off
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
ILM would ignore metal more than any other genre (yes even more than British hip-hop and rnb).
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes some of the 4K and 5K album reviews of the more obscure artists may be OTM - but you can find out about those in Terrorizer or on the web.
Terrorizer £ 3.20 per mouth and Free CD Kerrang £1.95 * 4 issues = is £7.80
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
But Terrorizer have covered all that Nightwish type shit. So it all evens out in my book.
I like the fact that kerrang is open to more indie/alt rock stuff(remember they have covered Cypress Hill and The Prodigy too) It's just a shame they seem to be more concerned with the bigger sellers or bands on big labels than some of the great stuff thats come out in recent years.Isis, Electric Wizard, Jesu, Pelican, Sunno))) have never had Kerrang covers. It's time they did.
Have NME covered those bands at all?
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
pet shop boys! yes! in your face er... every rock band ever!
― piscesboy, Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Isis, Electric Wizard, Jesu, Pelican, Sunno))) have never had Kerrang covers. It's time they did.
Rock Sound magazine covers all those bands, but unfortunately also covers a lot of generic emo / hardcore / commercial rock tripe.
The day the NME puts any other of those on the front cover - will never arrive. Can you imagine the NME trying to promote/understand the brilliance of Jesu - to a bunch of Kaiser Chiefs / Oasis / Doherty / Strokes loving plebs
Although I could see pre Mark Sutherland era Melody Maker covering Jesu, also Sounds would have had them on the front cover.
Britain does need some weekly opposition to the trad-rock songs NME and the no quality control Kerrang.
[correction: Kerrang is £1.99 these days not £1.95]
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link
A weekly mag that covered everything and took risks would be great.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
There is an extreme metal section, they also tend to cover all bases of rock / metal - therefore there are going to be sections that don't interest everyone.
I would say Metal Hammer these days is a combo of Kerrang, Rock Sound and Terrorizer.
However like Kerrang - quality control suffers particularly in the front cover dept, how many times has Him been on the front cover.
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I think poor quality control for front covers is the same for all those magazines at any time of their existence, and not just now.
Remember all those shitty hair metal bands with covers who sold shitloads of albums but never got in writers polls cos they didn't actually like them(sorry ILM hair metal fans)
It's no different now. How many of the bands who get regular front covers actually get in the writers polls?
And NME always get accused of putting stuff on the front cover thatthe writers don't like but the editorial team insists so the magazine will sell.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm sure putting cellophane on magazines must harm sales. Everyone I know likes to read it 1st.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link
1. The list pretends The Beatles never existed2. At least half of the albums on the list are by African American acts.
Better realise you'll never see a list like that.
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), January 26th, 2006 7:23 AM. (GeirHong) (later) (link)
Confession: I only clicked on this thread because I thought I might get some classic Hongro action.
U NVR DISAPPOINT GEIRBOT.
― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
You are insane. I mean, we all remember that time when Muse were on the cover of NME every week even before their debut album had surfaced - those were the days eh? (A better example might be Ash)
Mind you, I don't understand Kerrang's love for Muse bar their guitar tech-wankery articles.
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick at work, Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh, that's Bod, isn't it?
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Toyah did the voiceovers.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
No place for "Urban Hymns" again like with Radiohead and Blur they seem to have swapped the opinion of which they prefer there. Not even attampted to include anything like Duran Duran (Which was in th last top 100 of all time they did.) No "Metal Box", no "Hats", no "Heaven or Las Vegas" and no "Club Classics Vol. One"
― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
No, because then you miss the point about good music, which is that good music is completely timeless. Like the old classical music from the 18th and 19th century, for instance.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Cosh, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Is there any music which works across all cultural contexts? As 'old' classical music from the 18/19th century certainly doesn't.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― enjoy bell woods, Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link
-- DJ Mencap
True I'm not a fan of metal but with my comment I was actually just trying to be funny. If I offended instead, I'm sorry.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Klotz, Friday, 27 January 2006 03:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― GLC, Saturday, 28 January 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Remember they included Andrew WK in their best albums list a few years back and White Stripes - Elephant was in it and that wasn't even out yet.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
In half a year, it sucks bigtime and Arctic Monkeys is some shite bollocks that only sad wankers and old people (20 year-olds, that is) listen to.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― wang aaaaaaaaah!, Monday, 20 February 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Whether or not Arctic Monkeys, Libertines, Futureheads, Kaiser Chiefs belong in a list like this will be more obvious in 5-10 years time. By now, sure, put them at the bottom of the list, put give them some time before you rank them among the ten best albums ever.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link