Rolling Country 2006 Thread

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Oops! Sorry, xhuxx, I thought you'd already mentioned that was the purpose, or at least on the to-"do" list, for your trip (I've got it set to only show recent posts, so thought I'd missed The Announcement and invitations--just keed, guys, he didn't send me an invitation either! Good thing, since I couldn't afford to send a gift [or I could send him a promo, since he doesn't get enough of those any more---maybe this nice Powerman 5000, or teh Fred Durst solo joint?]) Unrst, ist der Metal thread flourishing in mein absence? Good, and I'll get back there after I get back to Rolling Stray Hard Rock after I do Particle, which will be after I finish with Willie. (That sentence looks really wrong, butt so be it.)Buffet sounds better the further back you go (mainly 72-78), and used to brag about smuggling pot on his yacht, speaking of yacht rock, and now claims to be the cousin of Warren Buffet, and gives concerts for his fellow hardworking weekend warriors(is the present premise). Such is the company picnic of Bohemian life now, for those old enough to remember the term's (basically admiring/stratus-status-seeking)common use.

don (dow), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

Just as there are two types of punks (well, there are 7 thousand types of punks) there are two types of bohemians, those who are bohemian by descent and those who are bohemian by convergence. (I think those are the biological terms.) So, you know, some people are punk (or think they're punk) because they've listened to a lot of punk and they're consciously influenced by punk. And there are some people who are punk even if they've hardly heard a note of punk, they just are punks, or were for the three minutes the mic was turned on. Sorta the way Stevie Nicks and Micheal Jackson have moments when they're more punk than Rancid will ever be. (This is not to knock Rancid.) So, some people are bohemians because they've read the beats and listened to the jazz or whatever, or punk or whatever, indie, whatever whatever, and then there are people who are bohemians because they inadvertantly invent their own bohemia. Maybe Buffett's in the latter category.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm doing the antipacking procrastination thing too, just like xhuxk. I need to clear off and clear space away from my desk and dresser tonight, 'cause a friend is coming over to help me move them tomorrow. So, gotta go.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

(are you eloping too, Frank? I won't tell.) Judging by his interviews over the decades, I don't know that Buffet's ever done anything inavertant, imagewise, anyway. From the time he got a j-school degree and became a Billboard stringer, so he could study the Biz and make contacts, he's been pretty calculating (not nec. a bad or good thing, just saying). Anthony, if you get a chance to send your Willieology tomorrow, would be good, cos I gotta finish by Monday. thx & peace out guys(Toussaint & Costello's good live session on World Cafe now, will have to check their album, which xgau digs; hope I finish in time to see Dierks' Summerfest set tomorrow night, but CMT will re-run during next week)

don (dow), Sunday, 16 July 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

frank and i are getting married in vegas by elvis.

(chuck, are you registered anywhere, or is this not elopement?)

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 16 July 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

And speaking of Bill Friskics-Warren, I've been paging through his and David Cantwell's top 500 country singles book from a few years ago *Heartaches By Number* a lot while in the bathroom the past couple weeks, and I like it a lot

Hah! I kept mine in the john for a couple months (hey, it's a long book)...

David's one of my best friends and I've said this before but everybody on this thread should own it. It's a great reference for one but also a provocative and inspiring read--in the sense that it'll send you hunting for a lot of country records you either never heard or had forgotten about.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

And speaking of the Marsh book, have you all seen this?

http://www.lexjansen.com/marsh/index.htm

Very cool online database to the book, plus more lists including Heartaches, Hoskyns' Country Soul book, Doo-wop and R&B vocal groups. No Stairway though :(

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Unrst, ist der Metal thread flourishing in mein absence? Good, and I'll get back there after I get back

My advice is 'don't bother.' Unless, of course, you actually care about an oral history of Slayer, one never actually quoted to any interesting extent, or the occasional "I like [this band that moves more promotional copies than it sells]" doggerel.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Sunday, 16 July 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

OK, so no shocker, but Keith Harris says so much better whatever it is I wanted to say up-thread about the Bottle Rockets new one.

http://www.emusic.com/genre/feature/200606/286.html

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

watching young by chesney on cmt this morning, i figured out chesneys sexuality, its entirely about himself, and nostalgia. i dont know the word for it, but im pretty sure kennys now ideal sexual partner is kenny at 18.

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

onanopostpedo? Has he ever sung about actually being horny, though? "She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy," but what does he think? Great great video, but the girl's doing all the w-o-r-k, slinking down the cabbage rows climbing up to git him, grabbing, twisting,unbuckling, starting to unzip him. He's exultant, but is it just the attention? Anyway, he doesn't touch her, or look like he wants to. Maybe he'll do dairy when the camera stops, but meanwhile, total boytoy bottom! (If Mary Gaitskill can tell the convincing story of a femme top,they is *he* macho enough to be a butch bottom? Would you please ask her, Frank?) Also, I really like "Anything But Mine," cos finally his nostalgia is for something recent, and for something more interesting than standing around in his high school parking lot etc. But the song, though done cool, is really more bout he's satisfied cos he put his mark/logo(not brand, that would be too hotte) on her, not that he had such a great time doing it.

don (dow), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

thats what im saying, his work really is this obsessive, preening, masculinity, that seems to be above sex, or at least sex with the past...not quite safe but that whole point, of pleasure adn desire, being not connected to bodies but some arcadian construction of space adn time strikes me as the key to his success...

or to put it another way, people want to fuck him but he doesnt want to fuck anyone, (but his desire not to fuck anyone isnt that elegant glacial, refusal, because that being in sixth gear schitck is, in addition to homosocalism, drinking, etc)

there was always a sublimated homoeroticism to the frat boy nonesense, but i never got anything sublimated in chesney...

that said every major male country performer has more of that beatlemania, audience/performer sexual frisson then chesney.

i dont think hes a bottom boy, and i dont think hes butch, i think that he is a really slippery sexual signifer, the binaries we use to talk about people (audience/performer, gay/straight, butch/femme, top/bottom) all fall down around kenny boy.

(how would he be in bed?)

and where would i send this essay if i was to write it

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe The Essay section of Village Voice? Yeah, I guess plenty of performers are basically collections of sexual signifiers, real museum pieces and piece museums (mooseyummms), but you could say that about any sex symbol who doesn't happen to turn you on, but he doesn't even pretend to have the hots. (Does he? I know he's done love songs, and maybe there's songs about his desire on the albums, but can't think of any singles, which are his main thing). And doing a convincing job of being horny usually seems a wise policy if you're a sex symbol (unless your charisma comes from not coming, from being the ICE QUEEN, but can't think of any examples.) Prince and Madonna were (still are, maybe?)usually good examples of balancing the Apollonian and Dionysian, or however you want to put that.

don (dow), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

New Times killed The Essay at the Voice. It don't exist. Alles kaput. Gone. They came, they saw, they conquered.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

My friend Cat says that Buffett's image is not Bohemia but rather Drunken Lout.

(Not that the two need be mutually exclusive.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

see jack kerouac

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

In the 70s, he could be a pretty good singer-songwriter,and xpost journalistic training may've helped, with the introspective-to-observational ballads x cute 'n' clever party singalongs ("Margaritaville" pretty good observational singalong, "old men in tanktops, bermudas and black socks" and all). Like for instance Jerry Jeff Walker, who says he introduced JB to Key West. Nowadays also writes fiction, I think it's supposed to be like that of his friend Tom Robbins, of Even Cowgirls etc (also a 70s thing, mainly)

don (dow), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

those links are the best, xhuxk. if you read this after elope-ment, my best wishes; and I wish I could think of a great present to send; I hope my good thoughts are worth something...

I'm doing stuff on Trent Willmon and the Duhks for the Scene, so I hope I'm getting their back catalog, which I gave away to a friend who's way into them and the Mammals and that sort of neograss.

I've talked to Friskics-Warren about the country singles book, and I think he'd admit that those '80s acts are problematic, in there. And Bill's a socially relevant kind of writer; it's not my take on country in some ways, but it's a really useful book. The thing is, there are probably 1000 country singles that are pretty great and essential.

hey Anthony, I got some tomatoes came in, want me to mail you a box of 'em? I am contemplating a crisp, tart BLT today. seriously, Anthony, ain't got the Bennett yet; seems like it takes a while thru customs and so forth.

and got the Rhino Willie Atlantic set; that is music I'm barely familiar with. Xgau rates "Phases and Stages" and "Shotgun" pretty high; so I guess I'll delve into it. I'm a nominal Willie Nelson fan; when he's on, he's on; I like what he tries to do; and even when I saw him as a guest star on "Monk," one of the few TV shows I really try to watch (still trying to decide if I think Traylor Howard is a better sidekick than Bitty Schram, the latter I found kinda sexy, OK, but Traylor has really grown on me), his offhand timing seems to me the whole point, the way his guitar phrases in between his vocals. I guess I wish it were more defined, a bit crazier, or something.

But I am a sucker for singers going to Alabama and sharing a joint with Jerry Wexler in the Tuscumbia Holiday Inn, so I got it up to play.

And I got the new Howard Tate record--his takes on Newman's "Louisiana 1927" and "I'll Be Home" are amazing. We'll see if he actually finds a label or if it's totally self-released. But it's a remarkable piece of work, and actually a song suite, and takes some work to listen to--more work than Joe Henry generally requires, and to my ears far more sophisticated.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 22 July 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

can you mail a box of tomatos, without brusing and the like?

and i ahe no idea where the bennett went, i ahve had so much trouble with the post, i sent something to brooklyn a month ago, and it was sent back, though the address was correct. apparently the building didnt exist according to canada post. i wonder if i am on some government watch lsit. (i feel bad, but scouts honour, i sent that cd)

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 22 July 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

edd otm about bitty schram; traylor howard's hot too, but BITTY SCHRAM

also has everyone given up on los lonely boys? new album dont seem too horrible

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 22 July 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Haiku, try to find Los Lonely Boys with Ronnie Milsap on CNT's "Crossroads," it may not be on youtube, since they've gotten wussier about copyright, but should be around somewhere, or check the series listings on cmt.com, they'll re-run it sometime, maybe soon, with the new LLB album. I never would've thought of putting those artists together, or of the connections that were in fact made.They weren't so hot on "Austin City Limits," a bad sign, since that's an artist/music-hospitable show, but were good with Willie (who introduced them as "The Los Lonely Boys," unless it was "The Lost Lonely Boys, " but he should know better, since he met 'em a long time ago, and provided free studio time), on his "Outlaws And Angels" USA Network special (they also did a concert version of the ZZ Top trib lineup, the orig studio CD of which I reviewed in the Voice, one of my best ever,"Sharp Blessed Men": title re it was also a Charlie Daniels roundup, with a contrast in artist's POVs I should've made a little more explicit, and will, someday)(orig point of paren: USA does like this and they do xpost "Monk," and that's it, quality-wise! Although they had "New Wave Theatre" and "Snub" and Lower East Side local access cable shows like "American Dancestand," back in the early 80s) Willie and the Boys did "Cisco Kid," he played this brittle single-sing solo, good contrast is his thing in guest shots, and some of his own tracks, where the seemingly off-hand thing can signify pretty effectively, at times (of course, he can be pretty uneven,recording alll those albums). My CharLoaf feature about him will be up Wednesday, hopefully not much different than the dutifully revised version (but what the hell, the blogvaganza will unroll some day, probably). Didn't get the Complete Atlantic (which is mistitled, because The Troublemaker was also recorded for Atlantic, but their country section folded, and it came out on Columbia; his daughter Susie Nelson's Heartworn Memories tells like that, anyway). Also most of that live disc already came out on a previous Rhino Willie. But I did say some stuff about Phases And Stages, which is still one of his best.

don (dow), Saturday, 22 July 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

so don, charloaf is about willie? but not about the atlantic sessions?

and anthony, you know I'm pullin' your leg. about the tomatoes. man, this guy hit me in the head with some tomatoes! it hurt! shit, that don't sound like it would hurt so much. yeah, but them tomatoes was in a can.

and the bennett, anthony, it'll arrive; gotta go thru customs. no sweat.

man, just tired, kinda seeing everything thru a haze of exhaustion, as my mother enters into what are probably her final weeks if not days. gotta recharge, but it's gonna take awhile. i'm so behind on what I want and need to listen to, not behind on work, and it's real hard to concentrate. tomorrow I'm taking the time to make real good notes on Trent Willmon--doesn't he have a previous record, has anyone heard it?

and yeah, Bitty Schram--she looked like she had a past, one sexy woman. I was kinda hoping Monk and Traylor might, eh, make it, but that's too much to ask in that or any world. Sex is so dirty.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 23 July 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

Revising earlier opinion about Chris Knight record: it's really great, actually, just handicapped by two of the worst songs being in the first five. Good detail writing, angry eco-populism, Mellencamp spunk with a Springsteen voice, all-around goodness.

Also this Los Lonely Boys album is pretty countrified in many places and (despite the fact that they cannot write any kind of lyrics really) I like it. Nice vocal cameos from father Enrique Sr. and Willie on "Outlaws".

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

re xpost Uncle Willie introducing them onstage as "The Los Lonely Boys," CNN newscrawl ditto this weekend,reporting that bass player got busted for pot, and some kind of rowdiness, in Texas, so uh-oh. Speaking of the Mammals and Duhks (whose first album has been reissued), anybody who likes any of that might also like Solas' Reunion Live (members of all lineups ever, grooving seamlessly, and not just jamming).Closer to Bo Diddley, or at least Moe Tucker (vocals too, frequently enough), than to Riverdance. Although they are Irish folkies, and no mistake. I be writing a preview, re their appearance at Dublin OH's Irish Music Festival, for Columbus OH's Independent UWeekly (ILM's own Brian O'Neill is arts editor). Hang in there, Edd.

Rudy Wontfail (dow), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

I was sparked by Fred’s VV piece about “Taking the Long Way Home” to consider the Chicks’ positioning within their genre and with their audience.

Which--at first weirdly--led me to think of the story of Dr. Winifred ‘Fred’ Burkle, the cute/brilliant physicist of Tim Minear and Joss Whedon’s ANGEL.

When we meet her, Fred, the daughter of a stable, middle class Texas family, has been trapped in a ‘demon dimension’ for five years, basically living as a slave to some horrid creatures. Angel aka The Heroic Vampire with a Soul, saves her from this nasty fate, and takes her back to LA, where she joins his investigative squad--which is also benefitting from/being corrupted by a transdimensional Evil Corporate Law Firm.

Anyway--Fred gets home. The firs thing she does?

Puts up a Dixie Chicks poster, which clearly gives her great pleasure.

When Fred thumb-tacked that poster of the Chicks on the wall as a way to imprint her identity on this blank new space, I went “Yes!” instinctively. It was such a great meta moment, was true to Fred the character and illuminating about both the Chicks and their fans.

Fred’s a little ‘country’ (the Texas accent, ‘good’ manners, etc.) and more than a little urban (her exemplary professionalism and don’t-fuck-with-me asskickiness when pushed) and because she’s both, she’d kind of neither--which is where the Dixie Chicks themselves find themselves on this CD--and hence Fred fitting both in metaphorical and dramaturgical terms in into an absurdist milieu that includes such other square pegs as a good-demon karaoke telepath, vampire-with-a-soul, both IS the Dixie Chicks--the cute/non-submissive sexuality

There’s a series of identity negations in Fred and the Dixie Chicks and their fans that creates a kind of amazing and delightful sense of being--like Fred--’outsiders’ deep inside a multimillion-dollar mass enterprise. But that this negation informs all of this is also kind of depressing and kind of accurate. That to be Fred/The Dixie Chicks, that is, to import all the humane stuff of country--the tales of suffering and (usually too neat) triumph, the super-pretty harmonies, the sense of smart and kindness--which runs against the Toby Keith-ian vein of ego-drunk bellicosity--you end up in this new nowhere land populated by tons of people.


And so it makes poetic sense that, as Frank pointed out, the new Chicks CD is both terrific and a bit of a letdown--because, in my take, it IS a letdown that these things can’t as yet be fused into one coherent whole.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

decided on the road last week that trent willmon's new album is pretty great after all, a lot better than ronnie milsap's new album, which isn't nearly as great as i thought it was (though its best track "somewhere dry" still is.) outside of "surprise" (which i love for the wife-swapping at least as much as for the bondage), my favorites on the trent LP turn out to probably be "on again tonight" (that's the single, right?), which is basically about breakup sex, and "ropin' pen," which i don't totally follow but appears to be about a place where there's horses and all the men hang out there on friday after work as if were a bar. weirdest song on the willmon might be "a night in the ground," which recommends that everybody gets buried alive at least once. also i noticed that, in "good one comin' on," trent listens to ray willie hubbard, who i don't know if i've ever heard; (so wait, did he have the HIT with "redneck mother"? did anybody else? if not, I MUST have heard him...) anyway, right now i think i'd take the willmon album over either jake owen or randy rogers, both of which i still like a lot, but not over the new rodney atkins, best song on which (possibly the REAL country song of the year) is "cleaning this gun (come on in boy)," about waiting for a boy to bring your teenage daughter back from a date at 10 pm nope 9:30 pm like you told him he better (best song ever about being the dad of a dating teenage daughter, probably), followed i think by "these are my people" (which has great small-town-loser specifics), "in the middle" (as in the middle of tennessee and the middle of nowhere, with tons of names of small towns on the signs on the way home to prove it), and the surprsingly great divorce-with-kids-involved song "angel's hands" (surprising at least in part because of its icky title), with "a man on the tractor" and "if you're going through hell (before the devil even knows)" (and maybe even the uncharacteristically quiet and possibly eerie "invisibly shaken") possibly in the on-deck circle, and the obligatory pandering "about the south" song and the mawkish one about how your four-year-old learns to say "shit" (which o'course isn't said, rodney ain't the president after all) and learns to pray because he wants to be a buckaroo like you at least somewhat bearable. only ten songs, so not much opportunity to go wrong, and lots that goes right, even if rodney does pretend people in small towns leave their doors unlocked. he picks good skynyrd songs to namedrop (hint: not all hits), which somewhat makes up for the more predictable bullshit.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

and oh yeah, my album of the year now (passing up victory brothers) is kentucky headhunters' *flying under the radar*, which cheats by taking the best songs from each of their previous three albums (only two of which i heard), but what the hell, they've never made my top ten before (my REAL not just country top ten i mean), and this year maybe they deserve to. victory brothers are missing *something*; lalena insists they're closer to the barenaked ladies or ween than to big 'n' rich, which i don't buy, but they do come up a little thin, somehow. (though then again, compared to b'n'r's first album, who doesn't?) i don't find them mere cynical hee-hawing wearers of lampshade farmer's hats at parties, though, not even close. and i expect they'll finish toward the top of my top ten. might help if other people would check them out and offer their opinions, though...

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

and oh yeah oh yeah, most entertaining (and silliest, and most rockingly big n rich like) country song i heard on the radio on the road was the (new, i assume?) trace adkins one about "hey batter batter hey batter batter swing." 100 % baseball metaphors, and way better than the phil rizzuto part of "paradise by the dashboard light," how can i NOT love it? so what's the deal, did "honkytonk badonkadonk" turn him into a novelty artist for good? i think he's helped by it, even if he'll never do another "i'm tryin'" again...

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

what do you think of the bocephus/big and rich crib of badonkadonk

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

still haven't heard it. (and by the way, by "rockingly big n rich like," i think i just mean something like "hard rock powerchords plus fiddles used in a way that dances like funk". which may or may not be fully accurate for the baseball hit, which i only heard once.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

>even if rodney does pretend people in small towns leave their doors unlocked<

or even if i pretend that they don't (because, uh, sometimes they DO, you know.)

incidentally when i got home home to queens monday night our front door had the extension cord for the landlord's son's big ass power generator running through it. power had been out here in sunnyside since wednesday, so we took an extra night before coming back; it got turned back on only two and a half hours after we got back in, which meant that all the emergency supplies we'd picked up in bucks county monday morning (battery-run fans and lanterns, candles, a stovetop coffee percolator, lots of backup batteries) will have to go into storage until the next con-ed fuckup. too bad the dry ice won't keep that long. but we only had maybe $50 of rotten groceries in the fridge when we got back, and we obviously picked the right week to out of the burough, even if we missed all the excitement.

anthony, edd, etc, thanks for the well wishes by the way. and edd, thanks again for the charlie rich burn, which came while i was gone, and which is in my CD changer now. (i also found a used copy of a 1974 comp of '60s charlie called *fully realized* for 50 cents in an antique barn in jeffersonville -- well, the second disc of the double LP anyway -- and brought that back with me. so these should at least help me start getting up to speed. inscription on the back of the comp says it was originally released in 1965 and 1966 as *the many new sides of charlie rich* and *fast talkin' slow walkin' good lookin' charlie rich,* both of which titles sound quite promising.)

also edd, keep your chin up. my thoughts are still with you.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

and what the heck, already posted the entire list on the recent purchases thread, but here are all the country-associated records I bought 50 cents to $1 each, at three antique/junque barns (north side of Route 28 around Arkville, north side of Route 44/55 around Gardiner, just off north side of Route 52 in Jeffersonville) and one used store (Rhino Records in New Paltz) upstate last week; if anybody has any opinions on any of these in any way, please say so:

brewer & shipley - the best of - double LP
dr hook - pleasure & pain LP (not disco-country enough, sounds like)
freddy fender - the best of LP
ian gomm - gomm with the wind LP (pub rock was kind of country, right? so maybe i should list the bram tchaicovsky album here too, but i won't...also won't list gap band's 1976 indie-label self-titled album despite their wearing of cowboy hats or bighorn despite bighorn sheep being rural beasts beloved by southern rockers)
charly mcclain - greatest hits LP (sounds surprsingly good so far)
charlie rich - fully realized LP (second disc only of two-disc set)
t.g. sheppard - i love 'em all LP (also not disco-country enough)
hank snow - the wreck on the old 97 double LP (badass train wreck on cover)
steeleye span - the steeleye span story: original masters double LP (somebody compared a montgomery gentry song to them once)
hank williams jr - whiskey bent and hellbound LP
*viennese waltzes* 10-inch compilation EP (probably influenced country dance music somehow, right?)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

congrats chuck by the way! also continued best wishes to edd, we're all here for you brother.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

thanks, haiku...

i'm also wondering if it's about time somebody came up with a theory about how country's current shoutout thing (trent willmon putting on some ray willie hubbard, jake owen putting on some hank jr, rodney atkins putting on lots of skynyrd in one song and some milsap in another song) should be considered a trend for the post--hop-hop age, but that's just silly since david allen coe and everybody like that did it all the time years ago, right? (but maybe the specific names dropped are getting more interesting? it's so fucking boring when eveybody's always listening to hank and merle all the time. though shooter replacing nugent with george jones was okay, i guess.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Contemporary shoutouts in country music go back at least as far as Tex Ritter's 1961 "I Dreamed of a Hillbilly Heaven," a dream about dead country singers except that Tex ends up reading The Big Tallybook shouting out Red Foley, Ernest Tubb, Gene Autry, Roy Acuff, Eddy Arnold, Johnny Cash, Buck Owens, Marty Robbins, Minnie Pearl, Tex Ritter...TEX RITTER?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

that hank snow album is one of my favourites, there is a good peice of writing on snow in the heart aches by the numbers book--i wonder why he doesnt get as much lvoe as like acuff?

haiku
you are also forgetting the faboulous chick version of hillbilly by reba/dolly/loretta--much better then the original

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

anthony i am not forgetting it but rather answering xxxxx's question about history, plus i didn't really know they did a version of it if i'm being honest but i don't care, reba mcintyre IS DEAD TO ME NOW

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 July 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, gongrats again, xxhuxx, and sorry for spilling the beans, but I didn't know (so maybe I was the chosen White House leaker-pawn). When I get a little more time, I'll dig up Disc 1 of Fully Realized and tape it for you, it's cool. Whiskey Bent And Hell Bound is one of Bosyphilis's better oldies, and Curb has kept that, as well as a lot of his other (remastered) 70s goodies, listed for $9.99, last time I looked. The Solas was a little girlier than I first thought (but in good as well as unmanly ways), should be on UWeekly next week (Particle's on there today, but not country o course). Also today, the Willie feature is on CharLoaf (a tad fardled at one point in the middle, because I was supposed to "clarify"), but mainly okay: http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/content?oid=56647/

don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

reba is awesome, she is better then almost anyone working today, or was until that stupid sitcom.


xxhuxx you might want to check out aaron pritchett in general and hold my beer as a single--its pretty awesome.

http://www.aaronpritchett.com/downloads.php
video here

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 27 July 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Sorry, this is more direct:
http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/content?oid=oid.566647/

don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

sorry (4 hrs. sleep)http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/content?oid=oid:56647/

don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

might be the last / that's doing it, but seemed like I needed it for the linking, anyway you'll see the title,"I Let My Mind Wander," in the lower left margin; click on that pls, and you'll be there, whoopee. Anyway xpost Ian thanks for your thoughts, I'm sure they pertain, but a lot of people, performers and others, are urban *and* country (esp. as processed in city of Nashville), and also what you describe doesn't nec lead to depressing albums, so if (I still haven't heard) new Chicks is a drag, it's their fault, at least as much as the Situation, etc. (not that there aren't plenty of reasons to be depressed)xxhux, the only time us small town folk don't lock our doors is when we're addled and/or hoping for some compny. One mo time:
http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/content?oid=oid:56647

don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

That's the one, without the slash on the end! Also, anybody got a new release date for (the reworked) Ashley Monroe?

don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think everyone in small towns locks their doors now but maybe didn't use to and that's why all the nostalgia for it. (We never did, which was good because when I came home from cruising 82nd in Portland I could just walk right in, and I probably would have lost my keys all the time.) But that whole necrophiliac 'oh the good ol times is gone woe is us' stuff is boring me right now, maybe later.

And Anthony I am referring specifically to Reba getting kuntry kudos for dissing the Dixie Chicks behind their backs. Always a great voice and an appealing personality which doesn't come thru on the show. But she is now part of the Axis of Evil, eff her.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 July 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

line dancing to alan jackson is more fun then it sounds

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 31 July 2006 05:38 (nineteen years ago)

matt reba didn't dis the dixie chix behind their backs until after the dixie chix dissed her behind her back!

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 31 July 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

they didnt though, not really, they were talking about peoples tastes in music, and although it was a dumb statement it wasnt personal the way hers was, and you know all this already

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 31 July 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

what was the anti reba statement?

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 31 July 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Martie McGuire, in Time Magazine: "I'd rather have a smaller following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith. We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do."

This is being taken out of context by a lot of people who have only read part of the quote, or interpreted as "CHIX DISS KUNTRY STARZ CUZ THEY HATE BLU COLLAR TV AND 'PUBLICANZ" but I don't think she meant it like that. Still kind of a dumb thing to admit out loud though.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure I agree with Haiku that the Chicks' clunkily worded Reba diss wasn't "personal" (if you don't want to share space in a CD changer with somebody, or be listened to by "those kinds of fans," whatever the heck that's supposed to mean, how is that not personal, whether Martie meant for it to be taken that way or not? Toby's been in my five-disc changer more than the Chicks this year since he made a better album, so does that mean they don't want me as a fan?), but the claim here is that Reba threw the first stone:

http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/dixie_chicks/message_board.jhtml?c=v&t=727264&m=5543246&o=0&i=4

By the way, that 1970 Charlie Rich album that Edd burned for me, Big Boss Man, is great; my favorite songs on it are "Nice 'n' Easy," "I Can't Even Drink It Away," "Big Boss Man," "Golden Slipper Rose," and the excellently titled "I Do My Swingin' at Home," with probably "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge" next, and the two early '60s singles he added at the end, "Lonely Weekends" and "Who Will the Next Fool Be," at least as good. But I might like the second disc of that Fully Realized twofer LP I bought (aka either Fast Talkin Slow Walkin Good Lookin Charlie Rich or The Best Years, from 1966 on Smash -- Peter Guralnik's liner notes seem confusingly to contradict the note on the back of the album) even more; I'm kinda blown away by how funky the guy could be.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)


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