HÜSKER PÖLL: Warehouse - Songs and Stories

Definitely prefer Bob's album to Grant's. A lot of my favourite Husker Du songs are Grant songs, but not on this album.

there are grant partisans, mould partisans, "hardcore" husker partisans, "pop" husker partisans.

one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.

there are grant partisans, mould partisans, "hardcore" husker partisans, "pop" husker partisans.

i feel like i pinball between all four options on a regular basis when listening to them...

Definitely prefer Bob's album to Grant's. A lot of my favourite Husker Du songs are Grant songs, but not on this album.

I've always been more of a Bob fan even while appreciating a lot of Grant songs but I think I feel stronger about this on Warehouse. But something that hit me the other day while listening to "Charity, Chastity...": it's a great song that's been saddled with a really monochromatic and uninteresting guitar line. So I wonder how much of my indifference to Grant songs on this album may be because of the internal tensions on the album potentially leading to Mould being disinterested in making his bandmate's songs any more than they needed to be...?

Of course maybe it was a case of Grant not wanting Bob's guitar heroics on his tracks?

If you gave me a choice, blind, between a Bob song and a Grant song, I'd pretty much always take the Grant song. But I love my favourite Bob songs far more than my favourite Grant songs.

i love this thread and poll, btw. this album deserves more love.

i said upthread that warehouse is among the best closing albums of an act's career. it got me wondering what other discs would even be under consideration and how they stack-up against each other. i'd also say the smiths' strangeways and lewis taylor's lost album are in the conversation for best final album. there's an existing thread for this, i'm sure.

i've always thought that bob's thing is consistency, wheras grant's bag seems to be wild fluctuations in quality, studded with moments of absolute brilliance (pink turns to blue, 2541, songs about ufos).

I know what you mean ... But "Bob song" summons to me overwrought, proto-emo whininess (hey, I'm over-simplifying), and possible dirginess. "Grant song" says poppiness, which I prefer to angst. So I'll take Grant. But favourite Hüskers songs? Could You Be The One, Celebrated Summer, Makes No Sense At All.

The one album where Grant's definitely better than Bob is Candy Apple Grey.

i said upthread that warehouse is among the best closing albums of an act's career. it got me wondering what other discs would even be under consideration and how they stack-up against each other.

Would count the Pixies Trompe le Monde in this category. There's a lot of hate for that album, but I still think it's one of their strongest...and possibly my fave by them.

trompe le monde is wonderful... i've always thought it felt more like frank black's first solo album than pixies' last, though.

i'd say fugazi's 'the argument' is a pretty sublime final album, though my secret wish for them to record again prevents me from suggesting it.

fugazi never connected with me, but they were at their peak at a time i was pretty oblivious to music (rehashing my favorites from the 80s, content otherwise to listen to grunge burn itself out). i need to give fugazi another chance -- and i think i have the argument from emusic.

When I was pretty young I saw the Could You Be the One video on MTV and it sort of altered my idea of what music was. So that one.

Voted "Ice Cold Ice" just over "Friend, You've Got to Fall". Hart does not do much for me on this album. "You Can Live at Home" is cool though.

i said upthread that warehouse is among the best closing albums of an act's career. it got me wondering what other discs would even be under consideration and how they stack-up against each other.

The Go-Betweens' 16 Lovers Lane (or Oceans Apart, if you like).

yeah, in the go-betweens' case, i think you'd have to consider oceans apart the final disc.

"She Floated Away", with "You Can Live At Home" close behind. Never could tell Mould's songs apart on this one.

I'd never considered how Warehouse would look if it had been stripped down to a single, but now that I have; THIS is exactly (more or less) how it would look.

Standing In The Rain - Mould 3:41
Ice Cold Ice - Mould 4:23
Could You Be The One? - Mould 2:32
Friend, You've Got To Fall - Mould 3:20
Turn It Around - Mould 4:32

Back From Somewhere - Hart 2:16
She Floated Away - Hart 3:32
Tell You Tomorrow - Hart 2:42
She's A Woman (And Now He Is A Man) - Hart 3:19
You Can Live At Home - Hart 5:25

Assuming a 10 song album and 5 songs apiece for Grant and Bob.

Turn It Around and Tell You Tomorrow are the ones I'm least certain about including by each songwriter. The rest are non-negotiable.

My version of the album, with some reshuffling:
Standing in the Rain
Too Much Spice
Actual Condition
These Important Years
She Floated Away

Tell You Why Tomorrow
Ice Cold Ice
She's a Woman (And Now He Is a Man)
Up in the Air
You Can Live at Home

I have an unreasonable love for 'Actual Condition' which as a poster above notes doesn't really sound like Husker Du at all, but I take it as Hart's goofy stab at shambolic rockabilly, with Hart doing his best-worst Elvis impersonation. It's also the only Hart-penned track where it sounds like Mould is enjoying himself.
But going with 'Ice Cold Ice' as my favorite, which has always been the song that grabs my ear when I have the album on as background music. I'm a sucker for call and response.
I find the album a little unwieldy, but I have a hard time selecting outright duds. I would still like an album made up entirely of the songs I cut out of my above version of the album. I don't currently care for 'Bed of Nails' very much, though in the past I've found it at least interesting. Now I think it wears out its welcome somewhere around the two minute mark.

No Could You Be The One? Really? That's a surprise, I'd have had that down as dead cert for inclusion in anyone's POX.

She Floated Away and You Can Live At Home are great side-closers.

No Could You Be The One? Really? That's a surprise, I'd have had that down as dead cert for inclusion in anyone's POX.

Mould's lack of inflection in that song annoys me. I usually like the conversational cadence of Mould's singing, but the flatness of his reading in this instance hinders the song. I think one reason I like Hart's songs better on this album is that Hart really sounds like he's experimenting vocally, trying on various personas and styles to suit different songs, while Mould's vocals don't contain many surprises.

Officer Pupp single album OTM except i'd replace 'Turn It Around' with 'These Important Years'.

First and last songs are my favorite. Voted for "These Important Years" but on further listening I think I should have voted for "You Can Live At Home". It's one of the best final songs on final albums there is.

Only time I ever saw them live was this tour, when they were playing the whole thing through in order. One of the more memorable shows I've been to, more than partially because they had such musical power with so little stage charisma. I remember seeing Black Sabbath on the Dehumanizer tour at the same venue, not that long after; a polar opposite in some senses, and yet...

I'm tend to fall further into the Mould camp but "You Can Live At Home" hits with such euphoria from 2.04 onward that it's just wrong to not give it the vote.

But something that hit me the other day while listening to "Charity, Chastity...": it's a great song that's been saddled with a really monochromatic and uninteresting guitar line.

I thought the same thing when listening to "Too Much Spice".

Really heartened to see all the 'You Can Live At Home' love itt.

Did I dream a Zen Arcade poll? I can't find it anywhere.

I don't remember a Zen Arcade poll myself but that would probably be a good one too...really not sure where I'd lean on that one at all!

there should be a poll for individual tracks, and also for sides of vinyl

"Greg's album" would be "Everytime" (B-side of "Could You Be the One")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgh8j8-EUEo

How many uncollected Hüsker Dü b-sides (or compilation appearances) were there? There's Everything Falls Apart And More for the early stuff, but would there be enough to actually warrant another compilation?

judging by all the bootlegs, yes.

i'm going with the opening track here for the high school nostalgia.

I always loved Could You Be the One

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Mould: 40 total votes.

Hart: 27.

wow, i was the only vote for No Reservations? Maybe I just don't ~get~ Husker Du...

As much as I'm a Bob stan, seriously o_O about "Too Much Spice" and "Tell You Tomorrow" getting goose eggs here...but then hey, I'm the only one to vote for "Turn It Around" too, so.

THE RIGHT SONG WON!!!

i prefer the hart songs in hindsight but "too much spice" is by far the worst. "tell you why tomorrow" is great tho and deserved some votes.

So the official reduced 10-track ILM Warehouse would resemble:

Side 1
These Important Years
Could You Be The One?
Friend, You've Got To Fall
It's Not Peculiar
She Floated Away

Side 2
She's A Woman (And Now He Is A Man)
Standing In The Rain
Up In The Air
Ice Cold Ice
You Can Live At Home

While there's some quibble-room here and there, ILM pretty much OTM.

Let's do a Zen Arcade poll! (If i knew how to set one up, I would, but I don't... so...)

Click on the link at the top of the page that says New Poll! And away you go.

The answer is Chartered Trips

An answer to an as-yet-unasked question is about as Zen as it gets!

wow, i was the only vote for No Reservations?

I would have voted for it, if it didn't have the lyric, "Sit by a lake and cry"

man, the beginning of ice cold ice is so "classic rock" and perfect
wish they had stuck it out for at least one more record

hart over mould here by a whisker imo