Looking back, what's the biggest bullshit, musically speaking, that you fell for in the 00s

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i was thinking of posting a huge screed about how uncharitable and dislikable this thread was but y'know what's the point

thomp, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:45 (sixteen years ago)

this thread was good when ppl were following the original intent but now it's just kind of rehashing arguments abt shit from the early 2000s so

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:48 (sixteen years ago)

to rehash, the strokes' first two albums are quite good, they're a little more interesting than common or garden revivalists because they combined various august nyc types 67-82 ish in an uncanny way that's never quite reducible to any of them, naturally without being a fraction as good as television or w/e but that's beside the point isn't it

nakhchivan, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

i really dont want to get into a debate about the strokes so i am just sticking with my simple "totally fucking dreadful" position which i refuse to back up with facts and charts and figures

HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

THE STROKES SUCK AND I HAVE PROVED IT TAKE OUT YOUR PENCILS

http://www.detailaudio.com/blackboard-lancaster.gif

Mr. Que, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

i used to like cursive and now listening to them makes me hate myself

A piping hot bowl of grits, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

the strokes' first album is one of the only huge rock albums of the last ages that i don't despise so thumbs up to them for that.

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:56 (sixteen years ago)

people who are not aware that the strokes suck should maybe check through their work and see if they forgot to carry a 2 or something

HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:56 (sixteen years ago)

thomp that's of course true but people can be neurotic stockpickers anxiously trying to hoard or cut losses on their former enthusiasms so it's fun to see these often neglected personal histories of spite

nakhchivan, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:57 (sixteen years ago)

so fucking rich of ilxor to 'suggest' bands i've been enthusiastic about for me to hate on - fuck it, i might listen to Mew right now

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

that'd stick it to him

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

ROCK

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

live blog

Mr. Que, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

imna listen to mewtoo

iatee, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

HUGE DRUMS AND GUITARS AND IT IS CATCHY

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

lol

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

THATS WHAT SHE SAID

Mr. Que, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

If you take this back to the 90s I have several almost-candidates for this concept; I feel like by the 00s my skepticism finally calibrated correctly to my musical tastes and I started being better able to filter what I was hearing as opposed to making "this is great!" snap judgments followed 3 months later by "... no wait, actually this is horseshit".

Even with that caveat, it's usually a case where I heard one album by an act and loved it, then ran out and bought a second album and went "wtf is this bullshit" and actively avoided them from that moment out (hi dere Cranes, Sky Cries Mary). I think the only album I've ever actually swung from liking to disliking/hating is... Strangeways, Here We Come.

don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

MEW IS A SOUND A KITTY MAKES

KANTLIPS, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

Alt-country swallowed up a lot more of my money than it should have. This had something to do with Drive-By Truckers' Southern Rock Opera, Neko Case's Blacklisted, and Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot all showing up in my life at about the same time. While I still like those albums a lot (although not without reservations I'm-lookin'-at-you, YHF), I bought a lot of second- and third-tier roots-rock in their wake. A lot of this was honest exploration though - I didn't have a computer back in the early 00s and if I wanted to listen to a CD that I couldn't find used, I'd have to pony up and buy it. Ordinarily, I'm pretty good about just not choosing to like stuff that I don't like, but I held onto some of those records for a while hoping they'd grow on me.

I'd have to say though, in terms of wasted effort and cash, alt-country was my ska-punk of the oughts.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

As an aside, am I the only person who thinks every DBT album after that one has been shitty? God, each one of those was such a let-down to me.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:09 (sixteen years ago)

Incidentally, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot/"reservations" pun entirely unintentional.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

dammit, I wanted so much to totally hate Mew but, aside from the truly annoying guitar part, "Introducing Palace Players" is kind of great

don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

so fucking rich of ilxor to 'suggest' bands i've been enthusiastic about for me to hate on

Hey I purposefully stayed clear of Cardiacs, Ulver, the Fall, Neurosis, VDGG, all the stuff I know you truly and deeply fucking adore beyond all coherency. I was trying to suggest the borderline-good acts that time actually does seem to have soured...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

then ran out and bought a second album and went "wtf is this bullshit" and actively avoided them from that moment out (hi dere Cranes

DAN YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT CRANES THEY ARE INCREDIBLE

LISTEN TO CRANES

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:11 (sixteen years ago)

have you actually heard Population Four

don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

can i just say that when Mew "broke" all my lolindie friends were talking about it for weeks, and i thought they were actually talking about μ-Ziq and was like "when did everyone get so hip all of a sudden"? Then i realized it was some shit band.

darwin deej (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

(xp) because anyone who can maintain enthusiastic fandom in the face of that album is a stronger man than I, and I say this as someone who numbers among his favorite bands the group that did Wild Mood Swings

don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

Hey I purposefully stayed clear of Cardiacs, Ulver, the Fall, Neurosis, VDGG, all the stuff I know you truly and deeply fucking adore beyond all coherency. I was trying to suggest the borderline-good acts that time actually does seem to have soured...

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:10 (58 seconds ago) Bookmark

Can't hear you over the sound of DANISH MELODRAMA

(and hey that's my LEAST favourite of the bands you mentioned...christ alive how can Late Of The Pier have soured already? They're younger than me!)

maybe rabbits feel the need to play up their 'lynchian' qualities (acoleuthic), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

μ-Ziq is so hip

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

christ alive how can Late Of The Pier have soured already? They're younger than me!

oh man this zing bait is too easy gotta let it drift

HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:15 (sixteen years ago)

xpost

uh, way hipper than some major label third-generation Elbow clowns, yes.

darwin deej (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

CSS
Dan Deacon for like one second

like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:17 (sixteen years ago)

actually I am trying to get into cascading style sheets right now...

I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

ultra-hip late 90s astralwerks "electronica" acts

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

have you actually heard Population Four

Yes, it's an abomination and an affront to my ears. Wild Mood Swings is an apt comparison. The difference is, I purposefully didn't pick up Pop4 until after a couple years of digesting and falling hard for Forever, Loved, Wings of Joy, Future Songs and 3-4 of the early EPs. Oh, and I bought it in a clearance bin for $.99 and had extremely low expectations (which, yes, were "met"). It's all in how you approach these things!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

HOW CAN U LISTEN TO PRINCE OMG I MEAN THIS IS TEH PERSON WHO PUT OUT CHAOS AND DISORDER!!!!!!11 OMG AND HAVE U HEARD TEH RAINBOW CHILDREN OMGGGGGG

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

I CANNOT LISTEN TO PRINCE EVER AGAIN

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah so imagine that P4 is the second full piece of work you hear by them; why on Earth would you ever investigate the rest of their albums?

(although I do need to get Wings of Joy at some point if only to own a copy of "Starblood")

xp: you do realize that when you do things like that, it makes you look like a massive tool right

don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

Right!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

I'm just saying: would you have stopped at Chaos and Disorder if that was the second Prince album you ever heard?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:06 (sixteen years ago)

No, because I actually liked Chaos and Disorder.

don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:06 (sixteen years ago)

Wild Mood Swings > Population 4 > Chaos and Disorder.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

post-Vision Creation Newsun Boredoms for me. Live is a bit of a different story but I played Seadrum all the way thru maybe once before selling it. All those later Super Roots rehash and then the loud/quiet/loud drum panning got a little formulaic after ohhh idk, 5 years of them playing the same shit?

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

Dan: Try "The Zookeeper's Boy" or "Cartoons and Macrame Wounds" by Mew.

Sundar, Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

DIE ANTWOORD $O$
TONETTA777

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 15 April 2010 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

omg POPULATION 4 ... a real bad black spot in an otherwise excellent back catalogue.

though to be fair, that came out in 1997 ... not the 2000s.

Getting My Volcano On (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 April 2010 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

the Brian Wilson Smile album

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

oh wait i love seadrum/house of sun, though BOREDRUMS shit was aptly named

69, Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:16 (sixteen years ago)

btw, everything ever posted on fluxblog

^.^

█▓▒░ 97 people sleep immediately after seeing this video ░▒▓█ (dyao), Friday, 16 April 2010 00:40 (sixteen years ago)


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