Looking back, what's the biggest bullshit, musically speaking, that you fell for in the 00s

that should have said "thrash tinged verses"

haha you listened to metalcore! ;)

yep. and paid money for it :). thankfully not too much.

somedays I really wish these kids would watch a Converge show so they can realize they should sell their instruments.

They probably haven't heard Converge tbh. I doubt they ever get on headbangers ball.

haha I don't know why I was harsh on Iron&Wine at first.

I am still retroactively charmed by my own affection for a lot of records I'd never listen to today. a few things I bought & was never impressed by, but otherwise its just different levels of fading intensity, can't think of any significant positive reactions that I've 180'd on. definitely strong feelings that I identify w/ less now though; I was very drunk&lively during a Death From Above 1979 set, not really heard them since but pretty sure that wasn't my finest hour of aesthetic engagement.

I'm just thankful I never got into Mars Volta.

^Again, could be a potential answer of mine, but Frances The Mute and some of the tracks off the other early albums are good enough to dispel this

haha I don't know why I was harsh on Iron&Wine at first.

i mean, i get why people dislike I & W. fwiw, his body of work resonates with me more than almost any other artist of the decade.

maybe it's because i am old.

i don't really like dan fogelberg, tho.

I still love Creek Drank the Cradle.

Me too, Daniel! And I'm not old.

i mean, i get why people dislike I & W. fwiw, his body of work resonates with me more than almost any other artist of the decade.

maybe it's because i am old.

― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:45 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think he's just one of the big "check out this sadsack w/ the beard" type lol indie targets, have never heard his music so i don't know if it's at all justified

i'm not really that old either, mordy. sometimes -- like tonight -- i just feel old.

glad to hear you like I & W!

I'm sure there are some good Mars Volta songs, but every dude I met who really liked that band was completely tweaked-like one of those jam band kids going to Sound Tribe shows and buying crystals.

Or worse, selling them for tickets!

I guess hokey mountain banjo dude shtick combined with so-inoffensive-I-have-to-whisper was too unrighteous for me circa 2004 or whatever, but now I'm better at enjoying things

I wouldn't call Iron+Wine dangerous, but inoffensive isn't really his shtick. More like pensive spiritual.

(or something.)

he should have marketed himself as the easy-listening roscoe holcomb

I bought the first Mars Volta album *and* the first Iron and Whine (lolz) album, how about that?!

Sold both the following year, fwiw.

i like the first iron and wine record too for real

i used to have that sub pop singles club 7" that was like $100 too (/ILV)

i actually might like the last i & w disc second-best (behind the debut). his lyrics aren't as sharp as they once were, but the arrangements are killer. there's a straight-up highlife song on it!

anyway, debut disc was a stunner.

(quiet is the new loud, you may have heard)

dog is the new cat

up is the new down

i actually might like the last i & w disc second-best (behind the debut). his lyrics aren't as sharp as they once were, but the arrangements are killer. there's a straight-up highlife song on it!
yeah, see, I totally support the dude going in different directions in terms of sound/production/etc. But that first album was just sooooo good, that it'd be hard to top it.

no argument from me. one of my favorite discs of my favorite decade of music.

(well, this or the 80s)

this is yr fave from the 80s tho right
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/06974b6f503edf79080f1a21c143cd59/27950.jpg

disc is so good it's my favorite from the 80s, the 90s . . . and today.

creek drank the cradle is one of the most unpretentious bro writin' songs albums i can think of; impossible to imagine it falling into the "bullshit" category

Mew - finally! a good suggestion! although again, some of their stuff still rocks

:( Last two albums are still favourites for me.

Our Endless Numbered Days is actually my fave by him, but yeah -- all his stuff is incredible.

but lol @ anyone who fell for Sigur Ros. whadda crock of shit

― dipster purpies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:15 PM (2 days ago)

http://www.aprilfish.net/?p=990

From CCRU/k punk to SR/teh ardkore nuum to kode9/hyperdub and i'd even throw blackdown and greivous angel on the pyre as well...

...take away the hype and musically they're pretty much running on empty

I'm going to give Endless Numbered Days a good listen. I don't think I ever gave it enough of a chance.

@ Its all about face

Whatever.

I think the Hyperdub label is plenty of evidence that there is some great music going on in there.

Like what Siah Alan ?...not kode9's own stuff, not zomby, not cooly g and not ikonika. King midas sound has got some ok bits as late nite stoner lullabies.

I fell for the ethos in the beginning with sinodub and kode'9's early skippy garage stuff showing some promise but the whole spaceape era was truly dreadful and then to turn around and piss all over mainstream dubstep on the whole was bullshit. In as much as Burial captured the zeitgeist of post 9/11 electronica it was stil boring as all hell emostep and like loefah's halfstep, he painted himself into a corner he now can't get out of...IMHO

If hyperdub is chronicling anything, its the decline of innovative, relevent UK bass music and the ubiquity of self indulgent music for old farts to stroke thier chins to and still feel like they've got anything relevant to say about music. Sure, your opinions will differ but i'm past the hyperstition. Feel free to convince me otherwise though.

Mew - finally! a good suggestion! although again, some of their stuff still rocks

:( Last two albums are still favourites for me.

― Sundar, Thursday, 15 April 2010 03:01 (7 hours ago) Bookmark

They're very good live; plenty of their songs are catchy and powerful, especially at the tail-end of Glass Handed Kites; they never topped 'Am I Wry? No'; their music frequently sounds a bit...clean? Airbrushed where it could be knotty or abrasive. Hence, they sound like they're trying to be more populist and ^crassly* anthemic than their songwriting indicates they should be.

Nonetheless, I retain an open mind to them. Just saying I don't <3 them quite as much as before.

but lol @ anyone who fell for Sigur Ros. whadda crock of shit

― dipster purpies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:15 PM (2 days ago)

http://www.aprilfish.net/?p=990

― k3vin k., Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:02 AM (7 hours ago)

A+

167)Jónsi/Go: Sigur Rós guitar-bower embraces happy, shiny indie-pop; completely over-reads The Books in the process.#4.5

167)Jónsi/Go: "YOU SAY LOOOOOOOOO" "omg i'm crying" #9.5

during the 00s i went autechre, shitmat, modeselektor, andy c (lol?), squarepusher, venetian snares etc. would not repeat.

i went to see

I Don't Believe People When They Talk About How Great Destroyer, Sufjan Stevens, Iron & Wine, M.Ward, & Papa M Are.

fuck joanna newsome and the unicorn she rode in on

oh and the vivian girls. what a shitty band. all the charm of a sarah records band, none of the hooks.