Looking back, what's the biggest bullshit, musically speaking, that you fell for in the 00s

my fav moments with music & friends & music=sitting around in a room, pulling out seven inches*, playing records/songs for one another. it's way useful, fun, social, awesome.

*LOL

Just wait for the thread Bands you used to like but ILX turned you off them thread

i had to whisper "pigfuck" to a coworker today when he asked what pissed jeans sounded like

pulling out seven inches*

Genuine huge LOL @ this.

Mr. Que, it's weird you spend so much time on ILM given how often you dismiss the very idea of talking about music.

*talking or thinking about music.

i like talking about music! i like listening to it more. i prefer to discuss actual bands vs. theoretical genre tomfoolery though.

i had to whisper "pigfuck" to a coworker today when he asked what pissed jeans sounded like

I hope you did this while breathing heavily through your mouth and with a psychotic look in yr eye.

i prefer to discuss actual bands vs. theoretical genre tomfoolery though.

Then, let's go back to ksh's question: "Que: what are some of your favorite bands? genuinely curious"

what office do you work in that you can say "pissed jeans" out loud but have to whisper "pigfuck"?

dry cleaner's

xpost we were looking at upcoming shows and coworker pointed at the screen and the rest is history

i like Slanted and Enchanted a lot because Pavement don't sound like anyone else. the guitars sound ratty and fucked up, like the first amp you get in high school, that shitty solid state sound, but it sounds good, like the songs need those shitty guitars & the songs are awesome and catchy. some of the songs are cool and laid back and some are super wound up and ranty. there are just all these amazing moments. like when the second guitar comes in during the chorus of Perfume-V. like how the second time the chorus of "In the Mouth a Desert" came around, i knew exactly how to sing along. like how the verses of "Conduit For Sale!" i always thought S.M. sounded like an insane, paranoid newscaster. like how "Our Singer" has the Hip Priest beat but who cares. like the falsetto in "Fame Throwa." the fact that a band has a song called "Fame Throwa."

of course you later find out they ripped off some old Fall songs, but that's half the fun of music.

between here and there is even better than here or there

Hey ducky, let's stick the 7 inch in the computer!

I listened to Iron and Wine briefly, when "Creek Drank the Cradle" came out. I can't listen to him at all now. To make matters worse, I think someone on ilm compared him to Dan Fogelberg a while back. That one stuck with me.

hahahaha

what do you have against Dan Fogelberg?

I think someone on ilm compared him to Dan Fogelberg

My 50-something year old mother enjoys the sounds of both of these dudes, fwiw.

what do you have against Dan Fogelberg?

― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier)

a restraining order

long story

that being said, STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY POOL, FOGELBERG!

That guy always shows up at my New Years' parties and I ALWAYS throw him out...

Fogelberg/Iron & Wine comparison is OK. I liked the first Iron & Wine record a lot -- still do! Everything else has been fairly meh. But that first one is special.

Oh that filthy Dan guy! 'Don't Fogelberg that pool' is pretty common slang round here tbh.

i thought it was a different dan that did something in John's pool so was banned from it

'Don't Poco the fridge!'

pfunkboy, I don't get that joke, maybe you could explain it?

no

I also used to listen to Wolf Eyes, Hair Police and some of those bands. Doesn't really interest me anymore. The turning point was when I saw Hive Mind play. Dude was hanging out during the opening acts, then right before his slot he goes out to his car to get a hoodie. But not because it was cold. It was part of his look, the hood pulled as far over his face as possible. I found myself laughing during his set. Then I saw Wolf Eyes without Dilloway and was thoroughly disappointed.

then right before his slot he goes out to his car to get a hoodie. But not because it was cold. It was part of his look, the hood pulled as far over his face as possible.

This = loooooooooooooooool!!

lolz omg how dare a performer have a costume

and a hoodie! my goodness

i still love iron & wine. and the fogelberg comparison might work with the voice (fragile, wispy), but not with the lyrics. fogelberg is all kitsch. sam beam is a very good lyricist.

but whatevs. i realize iron & wine is a pretty devisive act.

I have no problem with costumes! I just thought this was a funny attempt.

Rilo Kiley

fwiw i totally <3 the like "let friends and shows get you into bands" sentiment but uhh this is not my life atm (plenty of friends but only a couple who i can talk music with)--if i want to keep up on new music reading criticism and reviews and shit is kind of key.

Don't know why it has to be an either/or thing. Lots of music out there; lots of places to find out about it.

agreed

why restrict yourself

melodic metalcore. when it first came out, I started with Shadow's Fall's "Of One Blood", and of course Killswitch Engage, and it sounded neat....kind of like a more mainstream version of Sentenced's "Amok" with poppy choruses. I also saw God Forbid live and thought they were neat. I really thought at one point this style was great and that it would keep developing.

The problem was, subsequent releases by some of the 'top' bands of the genre started to sound tepid and stale. Like I still like Killswitch Engage but they seem to make less memorable music with each release (though I found the newest one surprisingly good). The formula of Iron Maiden-cum-thrash tinged versus + emo chorus only had a certain degree of shelf life and since few if any acts seem to want to do anything interesting with it, I've given up on it.

Now I consider myself lucky if I go to one metal concert without hearing some terrible melodic metalcore band.

that should have said "thrash tinged verses"

haha you listened to metalcore! ;)

yep. and paid money for it :). thankfully not too much.

somedays I really wish these kids would watch a Converge show so they can realize they should sell their instruments.

They probably haven't heard Converge tbh. I doubt they ever get on headbangers ball.

haha I don't know why I was harsh on Iron&Wine at first.

I am still retroactively charmed by my own affection for a lot of records I'd never listen to today. a few things I bought & was never impressed by, but otherwise its just different levels of fading intensity, can't think of any significant positive reactions that I've 180'd on. definitely strong feelings that I identify w/ less now though; I was very drunk&lively during a Death From Above 1979 set, not really heard them since but pretty sure that wasn't my finest hour of aesthetic engagement.

I'm just thankful I never got into Mars Volta.

^Again, could be a potential answer of mine, but Frances The Mute and some of the tracks off the other early albums are good enough to dispel this

haha I don't know why I was harsh on Iron&Wine at first.

i mean, i get why people dislike I & W. fwiw, his body of work resonates with me more than almost any other artist of the decade.

maybe it's because i am old.

i don't really like dan fogelberg, tho.

I still love Creek Drank the Cradle.