Looking back, what's the biggest bullshit, musically speaking, that you fell for in the 00s

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let me go get my list of albums i've loved that i started making at the end of the decade

please don't

there's so much indie i still love y'all, but this is thread for stuff you don't love anymore

so like how much of ur personality do u think uv disowned bc of ilx ksh srs q.

― plax (ico), Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:44 PM (3 minutes ago)

am curious exactly what u mean by this tho

but ksh if you love something, set it free
if it comes back it's yours
if it doesn't, write a shitty song about it and throw it up on myspace

stars were pretty amazing at one point

Shout Out Louds?

― ksh, Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:43 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

good first album iirc

yeah, just sincerely asking b/c i know ppl who are into those bands but i've never heard much of their music

Cold War Kids? The Raveonettes? Silversun Pickups? Datarock? The Kooks?

curious: are the records you guys have remorse about checking out/being excited about now things that you just kinda downloaded because of a good review or a lot of word-of-mouth excitement or something? because i've always resisted putting my time into listening to stuff just because of buzz or critical acclaim -- like if i'm given reason to think it specifically speaks to my taste i'll go for it, but vague "this is the best rock album of the year" kinda talk alone never compels me to listen to a record. i feel like i'm kind of alone in that regard, though.

ppl rep for raveonettes a lot i think

I was kinda curious as to how well A.R.E. Weapons would still hold up, but as soon as the line "Fuck you! Pay Me!" popped into my head I realized they're still worth it.
xp ps-raveonettes are still pretty good

some dude otm

i still like wolf parade pretty much

raveonettes are great! just awesome JSMC and motown rips!

xpost to cad

ok, cool.

i'm just going through iTunes's "Alterna-pop" "iTunes Essentials" playlist, and i've passed over a lot of this stuff

yeah sometimes it's good reviews/good buzz. a lot of times it's something that SEEMS like it should really appeal to me but then later on i realize it just isn't that good.

like i never got to this stage with something like fleet foxes but reading about that record made me think i would really like it.

xpost to some dude

i think for me a lot of the past decade, and even still now, really, has been spent listening to tons of stuff to figure out what "my taste" is, so i've definitely downloaded & bought tons of stuff based on hype, some of which i've liked and some of which i haven't

This thread is for shit where you were like "this is some this pla

The Raveonettes?

Love these guys. Their recent two albums are their best. They keep getting better. Seeing them Friday of next week. Excited. First class band.

whoops

listening to tons of stuff to figure out what "my taste" is

What's your conclusion? What is "your taste," per se?

This thread is for stuff where you were like 'this is some this place chicken!' but now you're all 'man, this is some house chicken'.

totally

I WANT THIS PLACE CHICKEN

mostly noisier indie rock, metal, and also some chartpop & popular rap

xpost to ilxor

how about you?

It's hard to "define" taste without firing off genre names, as you demonstrated...

it's not, really

yeah, it is difficult.

almost forgot, but i would also throw tons of other stuff that falls under the "indie" banner but isn't necessarily noisy to my list too

i don't even like to talk about this kind of thing because i'm afraid of coming off like some haughty "I AM IMMUNE TO YOUR 'MEDIA HYPE'" type jerk, but really even though i know in the download era i know how this is how a lot of people process and learn about music, i don't really get it. it's so much fun to kind of find out about artists through cheesy old school ways like side projects, opening acts, random things you hear in friends' cars or at shows they take you to, the idea of just reading a name a bunch of times and then deciding to go add it to a download queue is such a bummer to me.

no, i agree. most of the music i love, i've been turned onto by the old fashioned method of someone playing it for me at their house, in the car, etc,

it's not, really

Just for you, then, Que...

I'd say that 90% of what I enjoy falls into: krautrock, post-punk, new wave, dream pop/shoegaze, old-school hip hop, '90s electronic, psych/drone/noise, '00s metal, and recent R&B/hip hop/chart pop.

So, curious -- how else would you "define" that particular spectrum of interests?

Aside from "shit music" or some other snarky quip.

i wouldn't! i would just name bands i liked

"dude who reads ilx" sounds appropriate to me

xp

it's a lot easier

So, curious -- how else would you "define" that particular spectrum of interests?

also, trying to define all of that music you listed into a single spectrum is kind of a fool's errand, imho.

krautrock, post-punk, new wave, dream pop/shoegaze, old-school hip hop, '90s electronic, psych/drone/noise, '00s metal, and recent R&B/hip hop/chart pop.

Well I could certainly have listed Can, Neu!, Joy Div/New Order, Wire, Cure, Human League, JAMC, MBV, Public Enemy, EPMD... onward into infinity, but what does that really accomplish that the genre list doesn't?

If anything, it's more exclusive.

xpost

Que: what are some of your favorite bands? genuinely curious

trying to define all of that music you listed into a single spectrum is kind of a fool's errand, imho.

Then that contradicts you saying it's easy to define tastes without making a genre list -- right?

Well I could certainly have listed Can, Neu!, Joy Div/New Order, Wire, Cure, Human League, JAMC, MBV, Public Enemy, EPMD... onward into infinity, but what does that really accomplish that the genre list doesn't?

it gives the person who's asking you what kind of music you like a list of actual bands to check out versus a bunch of genre tags that mean different things to different people

If anything, it's more exclusive.

What's wrong with that?

Then that contradicts you saying it's easy to define tastes without making a genre list -- right?

you're making music, and the listening to it, far more complicated than it needs to be, in my opinion.

it gives the person who's asking you what kind of music you like a list of actual bands to check out versus a bunch of genre tags that mean different things to different people

i actually kinda agree with this, although i think "genre tags" can be a useful shorthand

wonder if any of u r learning things r becoming more fulfilled

in my experience, most of my enjoyment from music comes from people telling me about bands, or playing bands for me so i can hear them, or making mix tapes/CD's and stuff. i don't know where this fetishization for genre comes from but it's really weird and foreign to me. i think it takes the conversation away from the music.

it gives the person who's asking you what kind of music you like a list of actual bands to check out

This usually proves pointless, though. Either I'm listing names for ilxors who've heard all this stuff before, or I'm rattling off what might as well be a foreign language to someone who hears "Can" and goes "uhhh" and that's that!

you're making music, and the listening to it, far more complicated than it needs to be, in my opinion.

I try not to slap definitions on this stuff, generally, but was asked by ksh to define my tastes. A fair question, if not one I'd consider much on my own.

i think a lot of ilxors have tastes that definitely lie heavily in one set of specific genres more than others