has lcd soundsystem always been about pastiche? the last album had some traces of bowie, talking heads, etc... this new one seems to be a bit more brazen about it with its cars sound-alike and its straight up ripoff of nightclubbing
― dazzle shjips (Future_Perfect), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry, guys, but this album is endless.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
After three listens the guitars and tempos are uninteresting and the vocals listless.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
sounds he works with are often very pastiche but on the songwriting level he's always had his own thing going. if you look at 'losing my edge' / 'all my friends' / 'home' on the sonic level, you can pick out 100 musical references, but if you look at them as songs, pastiche is def not the right word. pretty clear and distinctive songwriting voice.
xp
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i'd say that was true in the past but the steals are much more obvious this time.
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
what song is 'dance yrself clean' a steal of?
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
cold war kids
― dazzle shjips (Future_Perfect), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
All I Want is just gorgeous...his singing towards the end even reminds me of Morrissey.
"Take me hooooome"
― Davek (dave
I agree I love that bit, it's odd hearing him really go for it like that but he totally pulls it off. It's my favourite song on the album at the moment.
I am really enjoying the album after a few days, it's a great follow up to Sound Of Silver. There aren't any songs that get to me quite as much as Someone Great and All My Friends did but I really like every song, even Drunk Girls.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:16 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
More obvious than North American Scums's chorus ripping off Homosapien by Pete Shelly?
I don't agree with people saying they use more pastiches on this record. Great Release sounds just like Brian Eno and his vocals in Get Innocuous! are very like David Byrnes.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
wrong david
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
per jaxon above, "jamaica runnin" by pool. Kinda sux, because I was loving this until I read that. hope it's credited in the liner notes
― Dominique, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
so I just listened to that, and yeah, no doubt he straight up takes those drums, just like he did in 'losing your edge'. but that's still pastiche w/ the sounds not the songwriting.
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's replayed, at least?
btw i had never heard of (the?) pool, but "jamaica running" is dope.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
but that's still pastiche w/ the sounds not the songwriting.
otm
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
That's some "Songs written by Bob Dylan"-level stuff if it's not credited.
― skip, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link
All I Want sounds like a Strokes song that "would have been" with Nigel Godrich at the helm. Not a bad thing imo.
― oscar, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
the vocals are mixed super low on most tracks, huh?
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link
― oscar, Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:35 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
^^^^was thinking the same thing
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link
well, re the strokes. hadn't figured in the godrich thing
guitars are more here come the warm jets than strokes
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
(imo)
At least on "Dance Yrself Clean," yeah. I made a comment about this the day it leaked... dunno what I think about it.
― rennavate, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
ha it does sound like the strokes -- it has that same guitar-as-keyboard thing that they did on room on fire
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Advantages to both!!
― Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I know you can be overwhelmed, and you can be underwhelmed, but can you ever just be whelmed?
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 12 April 2010 22:24 (2 days ago) Bookmark
First listen left me pleasantly whelmed.
― Dwight Yorke, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah its eno circa hctwj all the way on the guitar but i was referring to the soaring vocal style and emotional tone that julian was trying to pull off on later strokes material. also drum patterns.
― oscar, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxp. totally ! this song just made me think of what the strokes might have sounded like if nigel had been kept on board.
― oscar, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
hmmm I can see that
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm on my second listen and gotta say i'm pretty underwhelmed
― dipster purpies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^ more evidence this is an awesome album
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
people need to talk about 'one touch' more
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
― iatee, Wednesday, April 14, 2010 2:56 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
I lol'd.
― rennavate, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
"you wanted a hit" is so dope
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyone want to explain why this is better than SOS?
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
The success of that album convinced him that what didn't work deserved to be extended and attenuated.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know, I think this is pretty spectacular. Better than SOS? Waaaaaaaaaaaaay too early to tell, personally.
― rennavate, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's equally as good -- but they're different albums
i think it will be easier to appreciate this album for some people once they get comfortable with the fact that there's no "yeah" style crazy wig out joint or an Epic Career Standard like "all my friends" -- & that was obviously a conscious decision by jams, cuz there are songs like "pow pow" and "you wanted a hit" where you're just waiting for the 3 min instrumental climax, and it never comes -- then i think it's easier to appreciate the songs "on their own terms" or w/e -- i feel like that about "you wanted a hit" esp -- that song has some great melodies & ideas packed in it and it now doesn't bother me that it just chugs along without the big payoff
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
the template for this album is v much "someone great"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think i'll ever like this more than SOS (or even close), but i am digging it more every time i hear it.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
it's also got a very cohesive sound as a record, which, i don't know...the other lcd records hang together too, but have much broader palettes of sounds & feels imo.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
When I listen to LCD Soundsystem it's for the punk-y numbers like "Tribulations," "North American Scum," and "Daft Punk...," not "Yeah," tbh.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
imo sound of silver sounds sorta drab compared to this. this is funnier and it just feels like it has more life to it.
'one touch' is 'get innocuous' with a bite, 'home' is 'all my friends' w/ more subtlety.
I dunno, I love SOS and maybe will change my mind in half a year when I've played these songs to death too.
― iatee, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
imo sound of silver sounds sorta drab compared to this.
i had this thought too
to me it definitely seems like jams dialed back the ambition and adventure but wrote great "songs" in a rockist sense
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty sure they are songs
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Like he's sold his turntables and bought guitars.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
there's a 15 minute instrumental version of "dance yourself clean" titled "in the pool (no bass)" that jams made for a fashion show or something.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 April 2010 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link
― Dominique, Thursday, 15 April 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^^this. It's easily my favorite on the new album. For me it harkens to the glory days when every other DFA remix was hot snot on a silver platter. Can't wait to hear it in a dance setting.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty much digging this except for somebody's calling me, which is a bona fide dirge.
― the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Hmm...I wrote this off after the first listen. I'll try again.
― seandalai, Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link