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No, maybe you did! Still, yeah, I don't know. The album sounds so much more obsessively structured and 'clean,' for lack of a better word, than Screamadelica. The song that would most leap to mind is "Don't Fight It, Feel It."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)

(Er, maybe you did say that upthread rather than expect me to believe it...or something).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I double checked, and I didn't. not a big deal except I could have made my point a lot clearer--probably one of those things I've said alout so much that I figure it'll just make its way into what I type...without my actually having to type it. (kinda like this fucking book!) but I must say, one thing I'm noticing w/a lot of nu-postpunk that I don't think gets remarked on near enough is how close they are in lots of ways to Madchester/indie-dance, only brittler, w/the E-ffect drained out. the Out Hud album is like that a bit, obviously the Rapture strikes me that way...maybe it's just the rock-dance thing that automatically sets those associations off, but I do hear some of it in there.

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)

(don't forget the new !!! single, matos, which is as great as you said...)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)

fyi, www.therapturemusic.com - semi weblog by Mattie from the band.

― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)

was gonna mention that too, yeah...

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone else think "Love is All" sounds like Big Star circa Radio City?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 16 May 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)

man the level of speculation on this thread is reason alone why this record will be huge when it drops. Insane.

― hstencil, Friday, 16 May 2003 17:01 (twenty-three years ago)

it may be the next:
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre500/e597/e59764jsz2c.jpg

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:26 (twenty-three years ago)

now gygax! that's not very nice.

― hstencil, Friday, 16 May 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

in levels of sales i mean.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

;-D

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

(i like both records FWIW)

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

You're unbelievable!

― hstencil, Friday, 16 May 2003 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)

i need your love

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:40 (twenty-three years ago)

haha. "who is this Tom Velraine?" everybody wonders. well i invented him by mistakly while trieng to type:"Tom Verlaine" from Television.
sorry about that.

― rexJr., Friday, 16 May 2003 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

And having seen them...very, very good indeed. More later when I'm not so sleepy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 May 2003 06:34 (twenty-three years ago)

A Rapture story: Not too long ago I was at a warehouse style (huge space but not really a warehouse) party....the party is progressing normally, the dj is playing NYC sleaze electro, various substances are being taken openly, there's a koi pond next to where I'm standing...the crowd is fairly young-ish and fucked up but well behaved. There's a line to get in going down several flights of stairs. Everyone is playing it cool and doing more socializing than dancing. Fuck, the wait for the bathroom is long. It's late. All of a sudden HOJL is dropped by the dj and the place just goes nuts. The floor is literally bouncing. I'm standing there completely awe-struck. It's like the song is the catalyst for this surge of energy, people are jumping up and down. It's some weird synergistic musical experience.

The police showed up soon thereafter kicking everyone out. So that tune both made the party and ended it. I ended up losing my friends and cabbing it home alone, but I must have had a smile on my face the whole way.

― disco stu (disco stu), Saturday, 17 May 2003 23:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Man that EMF comparison is a scary thought.

― disco stu (disco stu), Saturday, 17 May 2003 23:32 (twenty-three years ago)

i want to hear them cover "Unbelievable"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 17 May 2003 23:56 (twenty-three years ago)

No you don't. You evil man.

Okay, so last night -- them headlining, Casiotone for the Painfully Alone (grand as always) and the Modern Units (keep an eye out...their own hype is kicking in and is very well deserved, they might have actually had more people there for them last night!) opening. Very good show, varied, which I liked -- a number of the old songs, about half the new album. "Sister Saviour," "I Need Your Love," "Killing," "Heaven," a couple of other newies and The Two Singles What Made Their Name. "HOJL" closed the main set and was major hysteria and hip action and more, and I like the way the guy sings to the side of the mic (and how the bass feller provides good harmony squeals). The fellow what plays keyboards, sax and cowbell (and damn good cowbell at that in terms of throwing himself bodily into the performance) was kewl too. Encore was a blast in that they started with their cover of the Psych Furs' "Dumb Waiters" (why the hell hasn't some emo band covered "All of this and Nothing" by now, I still have to ask) and THEN...an irony-free fist-pumping rock out cover of Gary Glitter's "Rock and Roll Part Two." Dude.

And! Mr. Matos might well have been onto something! The song playing over the PA before the band took the stage: "Higher Than the Sun." CONSPIRACY?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:20 (twenty-three years ago)

ned, you just described the exact same show, note for note that i saw them play in SF 2-3 days earlier

band with set list shockah!

― JasonD (JasonD), Sunday, 18 May 2003 01:48 (twenty-three years ago)

open yr hrt = 5 yrs by bowie

― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 18 May 2003 06:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Those darn setlists!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 May 2003 09:43 (twenty-three years ago)

EMF changed my life. Seriously.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Sunday, 18 May 2003 09:48 (twenty-three years ago)

eat my fcu

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 10:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Ecstacy. Motherfucker. From me to you.

― ss, Sunday, 18 May 2003 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw the Rapture at Coachella a few weeks back and thought they were just okay (and I do like their stuff). Within an hour of their show, I was over at the dance tent watching Felix da Housecat and he dropped HOJL and it was better than watching the Rapture play it. Strange. There must be a Baudrillardian word for this.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Sunday, 18 May 2003 15:15 (twenty-three years ago)

The Ratpure were signed by Gary Gersh's label through Universal Records.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:10 (twenty-three years ago)

jiggawuh?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:12 (twenty-three years ago)

"universal" = "the ratpure," right?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes

(haha, Y, your messages look foolish now)

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

don't they always, tho?

yay, my source wuz rite!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)

oh god posterity is going to be so consufed by this exchange.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Lemme fix it:

The Ratpure were signed by Gary Gersh's label through Ratpure Records.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)

to be nitpicky about it, the rapture will be signed by mercury records (u.k.) with strummer (gary gersh's new endeavor) as the north american partner.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)

whad I miss? It's called Strummer? no fucking way. thataway to preserve Joe's legacy- name a major label after him.

― scott m (mcd), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:21 (twenty-three years ago)

My latest Guitar Center spam was a postcard with "SAVINGS CALLING" on it, done exactly like the London Calling album cover. Talk about preserving a legacy... (still better than BADII's take on it)

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:28 (twenty-three years ago)

what legacy? The guy was on majors practically his whole career (that's not a value judgement, just saying that claiming him for something he never claimed for himself is capital-D DUMB).

but maybe I should just get in my jag-you-wahr and jet the fuck outta here.

― hstencil, Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Claiming I claimed something for Joe Strummer about something to do with what class of label his records appeared on is Capital F FUCKING RETARDED.

― scott m (mcd), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Meaning I just think it's silly that Gary Gersh thought, "Oh gee, I'll do something really nice for Joe, I'll name my label after him." The label could be major, indie, bedroom, world-dominant, with a major distribution deal, or without, I would still think it's silly, esp. so close to his death.

And Joe Strummer's legacy is the music he made with the Clash, his politics, and his late-period stuff w/ the Mescaleros.

― scott m (mcd), Thursday, 22 May 2003 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Whatever man, if you just meant label, then just write label.

― hstencil, Thursday, 22 May 2003 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

scott m writes:

Capital F FUCKING RETARDED

I think I saw them at the hemlock last week.

</spockmorgue>

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)

So I saw 'em last night here in Mtl. Great show. They were terrific--really high energy, very smiley, mr. dancer/saxophone&cowbell fancy-pantser very endearing. Sounds like they played more or less the same set as everywhere else, with a couple minor changes ("Louie Louie" instead of "Rock & Roll Part 2"). The crowd was very excitable and dancy, I was jumping up and down at the front of the stage. A wicked night out, one of the best concerts I've been to in a while (part of this must be attributed to a lot of friends being there & me getting some great news early in the night). Erlend Oye opened, and he was very winning.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 7 June 2003 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

Okay, so I finally heard some version of "House of Jealous Lovers" (my computer is so crap I don't bother trying to download MP3s). My first thoughts:

1) Q & Not U did this better on "Kiss Distinctly American."
2) "HOJL" reminds me of U2's "Two Hearts Beat As One."

― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 4 August 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

two hearts beat as one ain't no disco

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Monday, 4 August 2003 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i DJed HOJL on sat nite and it went ORF something severe

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 4 August 2003 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

when is this coming out now here in the us? i'm v excited

― Vic (Vic), Monday, 4 August 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

stacey q > the rapture > u2

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 August 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

and early october. i have the official date around here somewhere.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 August 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

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