Why does anyone like the Fall?

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The Driving Stupid (singular) were from 1966. The correct title of the song in question is "The Reality of (Air) Fried Borsk."

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 26 March 2006 01:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sundazed.com/artists/artistpage_gfx/artist_pics/drvstupid.jpg

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 26 March 2006 01:50 (twenty years ago)

I was contentious w/ Matos on this thread!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 26 March 2006 02:05 (twenty years ago)

Indelicate, one might say.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 26 March 2006 02:11 (twenty years ago)

that driving stupid record is alright!

i prefer the race marbles (both of them), or the nightcrawlers though

of course, cosmic michael is better than all of them

― charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 26 March 2006 02:51 (twenty years ago)

I liked the Move and early Electric Light Orchestra as well, before they turned totally rockist and crap.

I'm hungry for something all of a sudden. I don't know what.

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Sunday, 26 March 2006 03:34 (twenty years ago)

winter (hostel maxi) right now!

― charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 26 March 2006 03:39 (twenty years ago)

Driving Stupid >>> Race Marbles

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 26 March 2006 04:16 (twenty years ago)

I gave the Fall a listen and agreed with the sentiment in the thread title. While I think a person can learn to appreciate anything (Opera, electronic music, etc.) I've made a concerted effort not to learn to appreciate the Fall because the fans I know are a bunch of wieners, and I don't want people to think I'm a wiener, too.

― O-Keigh (O-Keigh), Sunday, 26 March 2006 06:42 (twenty years ago)

We are Damo Suzuki, though.

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Sunday, 26 March 2006 07:04 (twenty years ago)

**I Ludicrous are a good funny Northern band**

yeah...North Croydon!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

That "Preposterous Tales" song is great tho. I thought the bloke's voice sounded Northern.

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)

and I don't want people to think I'm a wiener, too

too late.

― smokemon (eman), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

I mean real life people -- for all I know you're a robot.

― O-Keigh (O-Keigh), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

wiener (hostile-maxi) right now!

― Pangolino 2, Sunday, 26 March 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)

As I read that Melody Maker feature, I heard Mark saying it in my head - if you know what I mean. Weird.

― Harpal (harpal), Sunday, 26 March 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

I, Ludicrous are pretty cool, it's true.

My friend said the Fall are playing here in May. Now do you think I am not going? Because of course I bloody well am. Even if it's crap I'm still going.

― The Sound of Walls (Bimble...), Sunday, 26 March 2006 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Provisional US & Canada tour dates, thanks to Cole from fallnet:

Tues. / May 2nd Austin, TX Stubb's Small Room
Thurs. / May 4th Dallas, TX Gypsy Tea Room
Fri. / May 5th El Paso , TX Devil Bar
Sat. / May 6th Tucson, AZ Rialto Theatre
Sun. / May 7th Phoenix, AZ Scene is Dead Concerts
Tues. / May 9th San Diego, CA House of Blues
Thurs. / May 11th Anaheim, CA House of Blues
Sat. / May 13th Los Angeles, CA Knitting Factory
Sun. / May 14th San Francisco, CA The Independent
Tues. / May 16th Portland, OR True West
Thurs. / May 18th Seattle, WA El Corazon
Sat. / May 20th Vancouver, BC Richards @ Richards
Mon. / May 22nd Edmonton, Alberta Starlite Room
Tues. / May 23rd Calgary, Alberta Warhouse
Thurs. / May 25th Salt Lake City, UT The Depot
Sat. / May 27th Denver, CO Bender's Tavern
Tues. / May 30th Chicago, IL House of Blues
Thurs. / Jun. 1st NY, NY Knitting Factory

I'll be at Dallas for sure.

― Harpal (harpal), Sunday, 26 March 2006 20:31 (twenty years ago)

http://www.iludicrous.co.uk/ (autobiography section)

For confirmation that Will and John are indeed southern softies.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:42 (twenty years ago)

I really should scare up a mix of these songs he's listed. I of course have no doubt he would have created a different list even on the following day.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Suitably perverse: Texas = 3 gigs, New England = 0

― Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 27 March 2006 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha

― TRG (TRG), Monday, 27 March 2006 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Mark E. Smith used the term "rockist" in an interview in 1994?

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)

The term was being used in English music weeklies in the early eighties.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Shh, Ned, we need to make sure people keep thinking we invented it!

― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I forgot to mention I invented techno as well.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:31 (twenty years ago)

I think you'll find Mark E. invented techno.

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Monday, 27 March 2006 21:00 (twenty years ago)

That MM thing is a beauty.

I've just spent 86 of my 90 emusic downloads this month on The Fall.

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 1 April 2006 23:06 (twenty years ago)

I might go to their NYC show. The label guy e-mailed me (c/o a world music mag!) and offered me a spot on the guest list. So why not?

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:11 (twenty years ago)

I saw them last year(?) the year before(?), when they played CMJ. Mediocre.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 2 April 2006 03:51 (twenty years ago)

Heh. I heard "Shake Off" on some damn Uncut sampler, and then got Extricate. My coworker (also on ILM) made me a four cd mp3 compilation of Fall stuff, and I guess what I really like about them is how they manage to sound so sloppy and tossed off yet connect every time. In a way, it's kind of like watching cats falling, seeing 'em twist themselves around and then come out gracefully. That, and they're catchy as hell. I think they're the most quintessentially British thing that I like, though I have to admit I've never been to England.

― js (honestengine), Sunday, 2 April 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

"...the real meat is in the way their hooks and bits of smoothness just clang out from inside all the steady beating so clearly and surprisingly: you get bonk bonk bonk bonk [big clear wide-open guitar riff hook!] bonk bonk bonk bonk."

"I just like that he says "-ah" at the end of every line.
And the drummer goes whomp-a-whomp-a-whommmp-a."

These appraisals of thee mighty Fall made me laugh out loud at my desk at work...a rare and usually discouraged action, need I say.

Even so, my favorite description of their sound - at least during the 80's - has to be courtesy the disgustingly brill online rockcrit Mark Prindle:
"'Dang dang dang'...that's Brix Smith's guitar sound. Might like it, might hate it - 'sup to you."
Hehe...

― Michael Layne Heath, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Dr. Bucks´Letter from The Unutterable is the ultimate Fall song. It´s dirty, almost frightening. Mark´s vocal delivery is pure perfection. Listen to and make up your own minds...

― obligatory nigger, Saturday, 8 April 2006 10:21 (twenty years ago)

looks like the canadian dates have been cancelled as well as the seattle shows.. bad news as i was so looking forward to seeing them!!

― gwolfcow, Monday, 10 April 2006 01:23 (twenty years ago)

Hip Priest is such a great song.

― Harrison Barr (Petar), Monday, 10 April 2006 01:28 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

My parrot is growling and grunting along with Mark E. Smith. She's whistling and getting very excited.

― patita (patita), Thursday, 27 April 2006 04:24 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

Does anyone know if/where the "Why I Like the Fall?" thread Jess linked to upthread still exists anywhere on the interwebs? Was it Jess's piece or Tom's, anyway?

― pleased to mitya (mitya), Saturday, 20 May 2006 13:53 (twenty years ago)

it was mine and i assume it's still somewhere lurking in the nylpm archives. i'd prefer not to see it again.

― goonie goonie moony juney purple spoonie killa noonie (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 20 May 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)

The links are the there, but the article is gone (as is everything the archives link to at netcom.co.uk)

― pleased to mitya (mitya), Saturday, 20 May 2006 14:08 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

I like cheese hotdogs AND The Fall [for the most part], but I'm not sure if there's a connection between those things. I also like cheese Ritz Bits and Dog-Faced Hermans. If you see a pattern, let me know. :-)

― ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:38 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder how Mark E. Smith feels about the Idle Race... Maybe a bit better than the Move, IMHO.

― ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:41 (sixteen years ago)

What song does he namecheck Idle Race in-- I can't remember. It's an early one, right?

I love Dog Faced Hermans but abhor a cheese Ritz Bit.

― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

Disagree. The Move are better.

― Mark G, Friday, 14 May 2010 07:23 (sixteen years ago)

surely not better than the fall though?

― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 14 May 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not sure about a song, but Mark mentions loiking an Idle Race song in an interview or poll way upthread.

― ImprovSpirit, Friday, 14 May 2010 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

The Move v. Idle Race question is one that I waffle on a bit, but there is one Idle Race song in particular that completely shatters me. Its on the 2nd Nuggets box, called "Day of Broken Arrows" or words to that effect [don't have it in front of me]. Infinitely sublime. One of the best 'power-pop' toonz in the galaxy.

― ImprovSpirit, Friday, 14 May 2010 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

:-/

http://thefallenblog.blogspot.com/2010/10/revealed-after-34-years-identity-and.html

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

aw, that's very sad.

― sleeve, Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

yeah very sad, but glad at least he's finally known

― underrated joe perry project albums i have sold (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

I probably should have floated this idea sooner, but I'm now two days in to 28 Fall Studio Albums in 28 Days of February. I've heard them all at one point or another, but for some it's been a while, and others only got a cursory listen or two. So far, Dragnet is a whole lot better than I'd remembered... Anyway, seemed like a worthwhile project to fill out the dreariest month.

― dlp9001, Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:28 (fifteen years ago)

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