Looking back, what's the biggest bullshit, musically speaking, that you fell for in the 00s

I fell for a lot of bullshit in the 90s but I had a lot better information in the 00s and so I think made fewer bad decisions. Biggest bullshit? Maybe some of the latter day E6-related things at the very end of the 90s/start of the 00s, like the Ladybug Transistor, or Beulah, though even those aren't really that bad, just not really my thing.

00s were too late for me to fall for bullshit. I fell for some in the 90s, and probably a lot in the 80s.

Really surprised no one has mentioned Tool/A Perfect Circle. I was into these guys until 10,000 Days came out with that magnifying glass 3D depth perception cover... owned the APC albums, saw them a few times in concert. I mean, it's not 100% terrible I guess, but maybe it's the Sigur Ros effect -- their fans are so apeshit about it that now, when I hear the music, it's just, "I actually liked this shit?"

No, because nobody fucking liked Arcade Fire in the first place!! Except for that idiot at Pitchfork of course. Sure, people may have "tried to get into it," but that was it.

Obviously you haven't seen an Arcade Fire concert with 50,000 people earnestly singing along to "Wake Up" and "Power Out," knowing every word by heart. They're not a band you really have to "try" to get; it's kinda like U2, the music is bold and bombastic enough that it's almost effortless to feel what it's trying to do.

i still stan for Neon Bible & So This Is Goodbye

YES. Their best albums, both.

xxxp:

I've never been a big Tool fan, but I listened to the first APC a couple weeks ago and it hasn't lost anything that made me like it in the first place.

Yeah, no one in the world liked Arcade Fire, it was all smoke and mirrors and a fiddling with the stock exchange.

and Green Day's "American Idiot."

OTM. I listed this as my album of the year on my 2004 year-end list. :'(

Find it hilarious that Whiney's still hooked, btw.

I'm sure there's a few bands I could list here but I have to go with The Libertines. What a Waster just blew me away and I do still enjoy that song but now I look back and can't believe I stuck with them until that awful that second album which i think i liked for about a week.

People talk about the debut as a classic (Ok mainly the NME do) but a lot of the songs on there are just so bad, The Boy Looked at Johnny springs to mind.

I really think the only talent in that band was Bernard Butler, he managed to make them sound pretty decent. It's no surprise stories came out that he played the guitar parts on the songs he worked on.

I guess I can't regret liking them too much I sold a lot of their singles for an absolute fortune but really I can't defend myself at all here.

it seems like you're in the majority, i was really surprised to find out that the libertines > up the bracket is basically challops. to me it's that s/t is better.

it's so obvious that*

On a related topic, there was an interesting series a couple years ago on Dan Weiss's "What Was It Anyway?" blog, wherein writers reevaluated their top 10 lists from earlier in the decade. (I was one of them; so was Whiney.) Love the refreshing perspective that comes out of stuff like this.

spent about 8 months wasting time and money on trying to get into eg the beatles, bowie, rolling stones, dylan...it was all so, so shit.

i have no regrets about any of the music made in the 00s that i enjoyed. certainly not electroclash

Lex, I <3 you but describing the canonized stuff as "so, so shit" and then repping for electroclash is just O___o all the way. I can see not caring to listen to Bowie, Beatles, etc. (I don't know if I really need to hear any Beatles album again, really) but to write it off as shit is just... it doesn't sit right with me. That's just knee-jerk dismissive reactionary anti-canon bullshit of the highest order.

terrible, depressing thread imo

Yeah, no one in the world liked Arcade Fire, it was all smoke and mirrors and a fiddling with the stock exchange.

yeah, i mean there was this self-described bohemian (read: hipster) girl that I worked with in 04 that I did not like, and I got her the Arcade Fire CD for christmas and she loved it!

You buy presents for people you don't like?

geez i don't even buy xmas presents for my friends let alone ppl i work with who i don't like
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xp yeah well I was trying to be friendly...she was pretty popular around the workplace, and I had to deal with her everyday...

but fuck her anyways, I lent her my Vasleines CD and she NEVER GAVE IT BACK!!! I special-ordered that shit too!!! >:( (I also lent her the third VU album but I don't really care about that so much)

btw a hoy hoy re: DOOM Operation Doomsday & Mr. Hood are both GREAT and I plan someday to listen to every record you talked about...I love DOOM; Madvillainy is my record of the decade, but there's a LOT of stuff on that torrent that I just did not need

I was gonna guess it was a secret santa thing

Another regret from this decade, perhaps just a "Why did I waste so much time...?" thing, is giving the time of day to anything that received JAMC/MBV/etc. comparison in the music press. For every band that's stuck with me (e.g., Black Angels, Raveonettes) I'm sure that I heard a handful of bands that were embarrassingly bad -- Brian Jonestown, Dandy Warhols, BRMC, Warlocks, Editors, post-Bright Lights Interpol, Kills... the list really just goes on. Not that I "fell" for much of this stuff (though I did buy Antics, the first BRMC album, and probably some others I'm forgetting)... I just regret wasting so much time on post-punk/shoegaze "revivalist" music, with very little payoff.

Yknow I always feel that there is at least one Dandy Warhols album that deserves a spot in my record collection...I just haven't figured out which one yet. I'm thinking it's the one with "Cool as Kim Deal" on it...

Bright Eyes is another one I don't rate at all now. I was a huge fan after Lifted and Fevers & Mirrors but I never really got into the albums he put out on the same day, then I totally fell out with him at Glastonbury 2005. He headlined the John Peel Stage, came on off his face acting like he didn't want to be there, insulted John Peel, played a whole set from the Digital Ash album then buggered off.

I know bands are capable of having off nights but I could never listen to him after that without picturing him acting like an annoying little kid.

i really don't think it should be surprising that someone into club music prefers electroclash to bowie and the beatles - it's more incomprehensible to me that anyone wouldn't pick miss kittin over either of them

I dunno Golden Years by Bowie is one of my favourite songs ever...

(of course it reminds me of New Face in Hell, that's why...)

Not at all surprised that's your preference. I'm just surprised you'd write off Beatles, Bowie, etc. as "so shit" even though it's not exactly your cup of tea. Like I said... I've heard enough Beatles in my younger years to last me a lifetime, don't currently own the albums, and so forth... but I'd not write it off as "shit" simply because I have stronger preferences now.

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Really surprised no one has mentioned Tool/A Perfect Circle. I was into these guys until 10,000 Days came out with that magnifying glass 3D depth perception cover... owned the APC albums, saw them a few times in concert. I mean, it's not 100% terrible I guess, but maybe it's the Sigur Ros effect -- their fans are so apeshit about it that now, when I hear the music, it's just, "I actually liked this shit?"

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor)

Mer de Noms has a handful of decent songs, but Thirteenth Step is still a solid, solid record imo. i stan for it.

as far as Tool goes, search Lateralus, which is excellent, and a couple songs from Aenima and 10,000 Days (from the latter, specifically search both "Vicarious," both "Wings for Marie" tunes, and "Right In Two, and destroy the rest of it -- fuck bullshit like "Rosetta Stoned" imo)

ok, well, i would! i think they're both actively awful, not just "not my cup of tea". i would have to leave any room they were playing in.

xp

or at least turn them off and put miss kittin on instead.

i also can't follow you guys on Antics, which i still rate (although fucken Our Love To Admire is a songwriting and production disaster), or Bright Eyes circa-2005 (i will still stan for Wide Awake and parts of Digital Ash, specifically "Gold Mind Gutted" and "Easy/Lucky/Free")

ilxor, you're speaking to lex here.

Yes, I've realized this.

fuck bullshit like "Rosetta Stoned" imo

C'mon Maynard, just call it "We Are So Fucking Stoned" and be done with it.

what a fucken silly, bloated mess

what, this thread?

lalz, no. this:

All righty then. Picture this if you will.
10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes,
in my need-to-know post just outside Area 51
Contemplating the whole chosen people thingy when
just then a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but
never really expect to see in a place like this
Cutting right angle doughnuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks
and me yelping... HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Holy fucking shit
Fucking shit
Holy fucking shit
Holy fucking shit
Holy fucking shit...fucking shit...fucking shit

also, the end of the song, where he goes "shiiiiittttt tthhhhheeeeee bedddddddd agaaaaaiiiiin"

i am not making this up y'all

ksh: Listening to latter-day Tool records so we don't have to.

"shiiiiittttt tthhhhheeeeee bedddddddd agaaaaaiiiiin"

just tryin'a save ilx from the pain of ever listening to some of the most O_O shit this side of Brokencyde

if you've been making dumb Scientology references for ten years, stop. just . . . stop

http://images.contentreserve.com/ImageType-100/1384-1/%7B05DD0014-7624-4A1E-93B5-EAC0006C9A6B%7DImg100.jpg

holy fucking shit @ rosetta stoned lyrics.. i can't believe those are real.

http://toolshed.down.net/lyrics/10kdayslyrics.php#08

also i can't believe no one has mentioned screamo/post-hardcore bullshit.. i fell for that hard in the early 00s

And after calming me down
with some orange slices
and some fetal spooning,
E.T. revealed to me his singular purpose.
He said, "You are the Chosen One,
the One who will deliver the message.
A message of hope for those who choose to hear it
and a warning for those who do not."
Me. The Chosen One?
They chose me!!!
And I didn't even graduate from fuckin' high school.

unforgivable imo

knew someone was gonna mention Blood Brothers eventually - BPIB still bangs obv

i need to relisten to this song just to hear how maynard sings the word 'thingy'

Loving the YouTube comments for "Reflection":

It´s all about the fucking music... you don´t have to know anything about the band, just listen to the beautiful music they made for you...
I listen to Tool because i really LOVE their songs, I don´t even care for Maynard´s private life...
btw: Coke Zero sucks...

lolistening now - he's reciting most of the wacky shit which is buried under their standard math-chug. it would be almost cool if this sounded psychedelic in any way but its exactly like every other Tool song.