What happened to LUSH?

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it's all about "Scarlet" (if I've got the right song...)

Paul, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

laughed your ass off? cause it was so fantastic? every song on gala is a prize. or maybe you're talking about spooky which isn't that great but still better than the later period material which was pretty ordinary.

keith, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was listening to some of my Lush stuff the other day and was quite surprised as to how little of it wasn't good. It may sound dated but not in an unappealing way.

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But Ladykillers was on their third album, Lovelife... wasn't it?

Mr swygart, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i like lush ok, but if you put it on a mix tape, it always sticks out like a sore thumb. i didn't know you could have so much treble come out of one band!!

Ron, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Treble? Lush? surely some mistake?

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Keith- I laughed my ass off because my memory had (incorrectly) filed Lush next to Sleeper, Menswe@r, and Northern Uproar. I was happily proved wrong.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It is incredingbly hard to find even "Lovelife" these days, not to say any of the earlier albums.

On the Sleeper/Echobelly mistake: they were kind of contemporaries but Emma and Miki had been contemporaries of MBV too, I guess

Arantxa, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The only concert I ever fell asleep at was by Lush. And I wasn't drinking, just tired from queuing for hours to get in as they opened the doors 2 or 3 hours late.

Winkelmann, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The only show I've ever literally fallen asleep at was Sonic Youth. Even at their worst, at least Lush were something to look at. Not so for the `Youth.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
for some reason i am listening to the song 'starlust'

ron (ron), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 04:11 (twenty-three years ago)

'cos it's good?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 04:27 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, but it popped in my head for no apparent reason

ron (ron), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 04:34 (twenty-three years ago)

and i'm ok with that, don't get me wrong :-)

ron (ron), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 04:35 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
Just spotted that Emma from Lush is on The Orchestra Pit programme on Resonance FM at 13.15 BST today, talking about her career.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 21 April 2005 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

This is starting right now if anyone is particularly keen on catching it.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 21 April 2005 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Miki from Lush was still at IPC aabout a year ago. You see her around the building. She still has super-distinctive hair.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 21 April 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I must disagree w/Alex's statement concerning the two bands' respective looks

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 21 April 2005 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the singles compilation. Good stuff; I agree that "Ladykillers" is both atypical and their best song, but that doesn't mean everything else is bad. The music is dated, but not in a bad way.

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I must disagree w/Alex's statement concerning the two bands' respective look

My statement? Well, the bit about falling completely asleep on my feet in front of Sonic Youth is entirely true. I'm not saying Lush blew a new part in my hair and set the room on fire, but they were visually more engaging than Sonic Youth. But, y'know, I've never been a member of Sonic Youth's hallelujah choir, so ya might factor that into your assessment.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Lush were the ultimate mixtape band. They were completely impossible to listen to for more than three songs, but if you put just about anything they did on a mixtape it sounds fantastic.

The idea of getting paperwork or voicemail from Miki Berenyi seems really strange to me. It would be like having Kevin Sheilds fix your plumbing or something. You would sit there thinking "oh my god, oh my god, Kevin from MBV is snaking my toilet."

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think their best song is "De-Luxe".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I interviewed them a couple of times, and they were genuinely the nicest people, Miki and Chris especially. I ran into Chris in London in 1993 (at least a year or so after I'd last interviewed them) at a Neil Young/James/Pearl Jam festival in Finsbury Park, and he completley remembered me (including my name) and bought me more than my fair share of beers. To hear that he took his own life was quite sad.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan Perry is still right.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"De-Luxe" is irrefutably their best song.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

you might be right about that mixtape thing, dn. they were not an album band.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i can still hear, in my quiet moments, dave kendall say "and here's lush with 'superblast.'"
i think it's my fave still.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I had fun flirting with Miki at a show once. She was sweet.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

They did some amazing songs in their early days for sure. I've always been in love with Miki and Emma just for the vocals on Spooky and all the different stuff that was on Gala. Chris was a great drummer too..

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
I was never a huge Lush fan, but good grief I heard 'For Love' for the first time in years last night and now it sounds like the best song in the world.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

:-)

But as the others upthread note, "De Luxe" = winner.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

man, i used to be nuts about that song. i think that was one of the first CDs i ever bought!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Incidentally, I came across Emma from Lush on Friendster once. She didn't say "I am Emma from Lush" but it was her and it was funny.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Re-reading this thread, I have the urge to pick up some of their records again.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Lush are back.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

did she talk about when she auctioned off her bed for charity?

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oi, sarky. (x-post)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't being!

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

what do you mean they're back? back in style or planning to play again?

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 8 May 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry - the former.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Lush quite a few times in the early 90’s. On one particular night they were playing at the trashy Prince club in downtown Los Angeles called Glam Slam. This was the summer of 1994 and they had this unknown band open for them called Weezer. After Weezer played there was this unusual long break in-between bands. I was dating this girl, talking to her and her friends and was telling them about this brand new band called Oasis. If I remember correctly only two singles were out by Oasis at this time and told them to remember their name because they are going to be something special. Finally after a long break they came out on stage and said that Lush’s U-haul broke down, on their way down from San Francisco, and won’t be making it that night. So we came back the next night and got to see Weezer again.

BeeOK (boo radley), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think Split is an incredible album - I'll never get sick of it.

vanessa novaeris (novaeris), Monday, 9 May 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

If I ever got really stressed out from work or whatever, this was my solution: queue up Spooky (followed by MBV's Loveless), run a bubble bath, pour a glass of wine and light a spliff, read New Yorker in bath, always worked a charm.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Teeny truly has great insight!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

If I ever got really stressed out from work or whatever, this was my solution: queue up Spooky (followed by MBV's Loveless), run a bubble bath, pour a glass of wine and light a spliff, read New Yorker in bath, always worked a charm.

Replace Spooky and Loveless with At War with Satan and What's THIS for...!, replace bubble bath and glass of wine with 40 oz of Crazy Horse and eliminate the reading material entirely and you have my solution.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...
Last night I heard a couple tracks from "Spooky", and I was surprised at how uninteresting they sounded. That's not at all how I remember them. I think a teenage crush on Miki may have coloured my original feelings towards their music. They were pretty good the one time I saw them though.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 03:00 (twenty years ago)

what should I think about Sing Sing? I see they have another record out.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Ah sir, I think this thread will give you some good guidance.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 April 2006 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Here's another vote for "For Love" for Lush's best EVER song. What's wrong with you people?

daavid (daavid), Thursday, 13 April 2006 21:35 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Listening to Spooky today, 3 times over. I expect this note to disappear, but if anyone else wants to chime in with praise for this album, it'd make me smile.

paulhw, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

ha, I was on 4ad-l too. With time a lot of these criticisms seem absurd; Spooky is frankly as good as Gala and Split and the differences in production and approach are are fairly slight to me now. I'm still not really a fan of the last album though.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 23 July 2023 16:04 (two years ago)

Berenyi’s autobiography claims Rippon was the weak link in the band.

It used to be a bit of fan lore that when Rippon left the band, he hawked his fictionalized memoir about touring with Lush (under the title Cold Turkey Sandwich) to publishers, but none accepted it. Berenyi mentions nothing about this, and I wonder why. But if interest in Lush remains high enough that Berenyi got to publish a memoir, I’m surprised that Rippon hasn’t just put his old manuscript up on Amazon or another self-publishing channel.

Melomane, Sunday, 23 July 2023 23:33 (two years ago)

I remember seeing a live performance of Covert on Paul King’s 120 Minutes, and being absolutely blown away, and really excited for Spooky. Then I came out, all slathered in worst Guthrie f/x — it frankly sounded like he didn’t have faith in the band and gilded them to death.

There’s a superb remix of Superblast! by Gil Norton, and shows what Spooky could’ve been with more sympathetic mixing. That version is also on the video, peels the skin right off my face every time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uU5DU7P83E

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Monday, 24 July 2023 00:08 (two years ago)

“Then it came out,” brb I got Dr Freud on the phone

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Monday, 24 July 2023 00:11 (two years ago)

I think Guthrie's production is what makes the best bits of Spooky so good (and much prefer it to Sweetness And Light). One of my favourite bits is the swirling guitar sound in Ocean that jumps between your left and right ears when you listen with headphones.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 28 July 2023 22:48 (two years ago)

I am anti-Guthrie on this. much prefer everything else they did apart from the Lovelife album to Spooky

Colonel Poo, Friday, 28 July 2023 23:28 (two years ago)

completely love the Guthrieness

brimstead, Friday, 28 July 2023 23:31 (two years ago)

Her twitter follows are abysmal

PaulTMA, Friday, 28 July 2023 23:36 (two years ago)

I think this has been noted itt

Colonel Poo, Friday, 28 July 2023 23:38 (two years ago)

tbh Emma wasn't much better, wall-to-wall FBPE, but maybe less TERFs

Colonel Poo, Friday, 28 July 2023 23:38 (two years ago)

cool. binning them asap nothing was lost really

PaulTMA, Saturday, 29 July 2023 00:15 (two years ago)

what does "wall-to-wall FBPE" mean

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 29 July 2023 00:17 (two years ago)

FBPE = follow back pro-europe. basically a Twitter siren for centrists for whom nothing matters but Brexit. NB I did not vote for Brexit just tbc. basically a load of "sensible" twats who "hate the Tories" but want to replace them with people who will enact policies that are almost exactly the same as the Tories but they might grimace a bit and say sorry before they do it.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 29 July 2023 00:20 (two years ago)

wonder if a 'Glasgow' label will reissue them next

PaulTMA, Saturday, 29 July 2023 00:33 (two years ago)

ah see I keep seeing references to this but I don't know which label this refers to

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 29 July 2023 00:34 (two years ago)

I appreciate Guthrie’s contributions. I’m not sure that Lush themselves were capable of making a great album 100% all on their lonesome. Guthrie’s production is no different than, say, the strings on Split that give that album the extra edge.

Melomane, Saturday, 29 July 2023 00:40 (two years ago)

I dislike both Guthrie’s Christmas tree production and how weak 60% of Spooky’s songs are. Found Emma’s twitter tedious but hadn’t realised Miki was a reactionary as well.

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 29 July 2023 12:08 (two years ago)

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc-qPHoqr74
This film on the criterion streaming?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:44 (two years ago)

Yep, in the US anyway

brimstead, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:56 (two years ago)

two months pass...

The Miki Berenyi Trio just finished a short US tour that alas did not come to me in Washington DC. They did dates out west plus NY and Chicago. Miki is doing book readings in NY Tuesday June 11 and Wednesday June 12.

I saw photos from NY gig on Facebook but no video clips

curmudgeon, Sunday, 9 June 2024 14:28 (two years ago)

SF show was great!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 June 2024 14:38 (two years ago)

one year passes...

And Miki's coming back for another tour soon, with Moose in the band this time, but has also announced this'll be her last North American tour -- to quote her from FB:

Here are the dates for our LAST EVER North America tour. Not trying to be dramatic, it's just how it is. Frankly, it's a miracle that Moose agreed to fly this time, and although the 2024 tour was great, it wasn't the same without him. Plus, much as I love touring the US, it is utterly exhausting to organise and the financial risks are overwhelming. I just don't have it in me anymore!

All that said, we're massively looking forward to this, and so excited to have Gina Birch & The Unreasonables with us. So hurrah and see you there. ❤️

All ticket links at mikistuff.com/live

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I'm already double-booked on the evening so everyone should go in my stead.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2025 16:57 (nine months ago)

October is hella busy but Gina Birch opening sealed it for me

Crispy Ambulance Chaser (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 23 August 2025 17:15 (nine months ago)

I'll be there in Cambridge, my favorite venue.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 23 August 2025 17:35 (nine months ago)

Say hi if you're at the last show at the Roxy. Super stoked that Gina is opening

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 23 August 2025 19:48 (nine months ago)

I'm gonna try to make the DC show (and yes its a busy live music month)

curmudgeon, Saturday, 23 August 2025 22:19 (nine months ago)

one month passes...

Saw the Miki Berenyi Trio tonight in DC . They just arrived at the airport at 4 and were onstage by 9 after a long wait via customs. Meanwhile Gina Burch from the Raincoats didn’t open because she couldn’t get her visa approved in time .

Her voice is great and the guitars sounded good too.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 11 October 2025 05:26 (seven months ago)

Did anyone see this? It's not streaming anywhere (in the UK at least). Surprised it hasn't had a DVD release.

https://vhx.imgix.net/criterionchannelchartersu/assets/da5c201c-bdfb-4c38-96fd-02d71546d419.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&fit=crop&h=720&q=75&w=1280

piscesx, Saturday, 11 October 2025 12:01 (seven months ago)

It's streaming on Criterion in the US. Very poignant to see their youthful vitality and road weariness captured briefly on Super 8.

Sample Clearance Revival (punning display), Saturday, 11 October 2025 13:19 (seven months ago)

Miki has been quite vocal that this is the final time she'll ever tour the US unless costs somehow miraculously come down

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 11 October 2025 18:35 (seven months ago)

I had to skip the DC show, too tired. Would have gone if Gina Birch had made it, so I could get two post punk icons on one bill.

Mr. T's Ballroom (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 11 October 2025 18:56 (seven months ago)

Saw Miki last night, drums were supplied by a backing track but that didn't diminish their power. Great selection of Lush, Piroshka and the new album and Miki just comes across as someone you want to share a drink with, great time.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 13 October 2025 22:20 (seven months ago)

I am bummed I couldn’t make it to the gig but I was just too wiped out

our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Monday, 13 October 2025 22:29 (seven months ago)

The Montréal show was fantastic! Loved the new stuff even more than I already did, the Lush tracks were great fun and really sent me back to my early 20s in a way I'd never felt before. I only wish I brought my copy of chorus for her to sign!

I posted photos & clips & thoughts use: here.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 14 October 2025 05:48 (seven months ago)

four weeks pass...

Far From Home film now up on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow3jEIV0s74

piscesx, Thursday, 13 November 2025 13:57 (six months ago)


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