Who Are The Worst Pop Journalists?

Well, aside from that smug fool who writes for the AMG and pretends to know everything about anything -- "Neg Rasbett," I think the name is -- I would have to say that the world could function quite well without a local critic of note here in Orange County, Rich Kane. To his credit, he keeps an eye out for local bands at least trying to do something -- to his spectacular *non*-credit, if you are trying to do anything that isn't somehow grassroots punk/with the kids, you are a head-in-the-sand go-nowhere idiot. The type of man who rips into anyone exhibiting, say, shoegaze tendencies with the slam about 'how old that stuff is' without reflecting on how reliving 77 to 82 again and again just possibly might be a bit older. I oversimplify, but you can understand my frustration with his writings. Then there's Buddy Seigal, but he doesn't even try -- if it's a form of music created past 1975, it is not worth talking about in his universe, so he's easy enough to ignore.

I also agree with Nicole, MM when it turned into a colour A4 mag, was a hideous magazine, full of writers that had no idea about creative music. Indeed some of the most challenging releases scored 1 out of 5, whilst the music they championed was boring, safe and conformist scored over 4. There was no purpose to the magazine, no direction, no quality control, no effort in highlighting interesting music that an informed writer believed in that you follow from week to week.

One of the mistakes that both MM and NME is still making, is that they are not making enough effort to give writers space to promote, enthuse and build up their own perspectives on music. Instead we have isolated reviews, there is little to latch on to particular writer. I cant think of any current NME writer that I believe in, I noticed that Keith Cameron has defected to rival publishers EMAP at Mojo. He was probably fed up with NME.

The only way for NME to recover its sliding readership is to get rid of rigid, and uninspiring and stiffling approach to music, journalists and its readers. Loosen up and allow writers to have the space to communicate and connect. At the moment the NME both online and in print - is stiff, false, inpersonal and forced. It is a written as a collective whole brand, we very rarely get behind the thoughts of individual writers, what music are they particularly looking forward? and join- the-dots analytical overview pieces like Simon Reynolds did so well in the Melody Maker.

Who Are The Worst Pop Journalists? turns into the ethos as a whole maybe it is editorial policies and stiffling approach to individual writers - that turns NME journalists into identikit and useless dummies?

I hated Mark Sutherland, the last editor of MM in particular his naff simplistic editorials that each week got worse and daft believe that Oasis were the most relevant band ever. On another messageboard I saw that he has got the editor position at Later, you know that dull lifestyle magazine for 25+ brigade. Later is the grown up brother of lads mag Loaded.

Jim DeRogatis - Pompous, dictatorial motherfucker who used his principled exit from Rolling Stone for all the microscopic credibility it was worth.

Dave Marsh - Don't even get me started. Take a gander at the Deee-triot (techno) purism in his rockcritics.com interview for a concentrated dose of his chickenshittiness. The God that failed.

Joe Carducci -- Quasi-racist butterfly collector.

Actually, I think the signal to noise ratio in rock/pop writing isn't nearly as bad as it is in other journalisms, meaning it approaches about 1% or so, and the good stuff is getting easier and easier to find. BTW, does anyone know whether Joe Carducci is gay? For some reason I've always just assumed it. The best part of his book was his take on this very subject, incidentally.

Chalk me up as a Chuck Eddy hater, too. He writes well enough, but I don't like his con man angle. I'll still read him, unlike Marsh, but only to be my blood pumping.

Dave Marsh - his populist prejudice blinds him to a lot of great music, and his failure to get into punk and what came out of it means that his current tastes are an ugly mix of boomer pop (Sting/Henley/Raitt) and gangsta rap. But ! When he sticks to what he likes, he's thoroughly readable and knowledgeable, and he has written about music and politics better than any other critic I can think of, especially in his Rock & Rap Confidential newsletter. He's also written several of the great books : The Book of Rock Lists, The Heart of Rock & Soul, The Rock & Roll Confidential Report...

Greil Marcus - he does have a rather professorial tone at times, but he's far away from being the all-brains-no-soul type he's always being dismissed as - a lot of his writing, especially on Mystery Train and In The Fascist Bathroom is so vivid and better than anyone else at conveying why a song/performance/artist matters so damn much.

Robert Christgau - your mileage may vary according to your tastes, but for mine, no one is so reliable and so on-the-money, and covers so much musical ground, as well as being so knowledgeable. His writing can get pretty convoluted, but I find that I do get something out of trying to catch the references and meanings. I wish he wasn't so fond of hip buzzwords, though.

Chuck Eddy - something of a conman at times, but a great writer, and I love his 10000-puns-and-references-and-unexpected-connections-a-minute style. His persona is great, the nerdy suburban ex-army-officer family man, the furthest thing from rock criticism's usual hipster poses, and I highly approve of how he's constantly mentioning his friends and kids in his writing. I love his insistence that music should be fun and snappy and should adapt to your life and not the other way around.

Charles Shaar Murray - I don't know all that much about him, but I love that book about Jimi Hendrix - there should be more like it, analytical books that make connections and that are readable even when you don't care that much about the artist being discussed.

All right now, the ones I can't stand :

Anthony DeCurtis - not him in particular really, he's not that important, just the sort of dull lifeless Rolling Stone-type hack that he represents.

James Miller - wrote a book called Flowers In The Dustbin, taken seriously by people who should know better, that tries to make the point that no rock music worth a damn has been made since 1977.

the whole Steve Albini/Forced Exposure emotionally-stunted indie bully-boy school of writing, where penis length is measured by how much music you reject and how offensively you do it, making sure to throw as many insults around as humanly possible in the process.

In case there was any doubt that I'm a music geek ;)

Marsh's politics are his greatest gift and his most irritating limitation. His musings on the intersection of the music world and political life is frequently right on, and Marsh was the first writer to make me realize just how unavoidable issues of race and class are when discussing American culture. But he sometimes writes as if the *sole* reason rock music was put on this planet was to legitimize the experiences of the American underclass. (Now, yes, rock music *does* do this, and it's a good thing, too, but it's not the *only* thing rock is good for.) Any music that can't be described in these terms -- art-rock, David Bowie, techno, techno-pop, gawd, he even says some cryptically smug things about contemporary African music in The Heart of Rock & Soul -- he treats with suspicion when he doesn't actively hate it. Or else he has to perform some hilarious contortions to explain why it appeals to him, like when he says hears the Chicago blues in house music piano lines.

It's almost heartbreakingly hopeless for a person to demand that one's personal musical tastes correspond to one's political convictions so dogmatically, y'know?

Other issues. If you've ever had the perverse pleasure of reading his clueless, mind-bogglingly arrogant posts on rec.music.springsteen from a few years back, you'll see that when Marsh shoots from the hip, he has the unfortunate habit of aiming at his dick. Also, quoted from memory, his line about the Smiths, written circa '84: "You can take all those sad cafe ballads, and I'll take [Lionel Richie's] "Penny Lover." Meet you on the corner of the centuries, and we'll see which one has lasted."

Michael, I can see what you mean about Ian MacDonald's "lifelessness", and certainly his endless analyses of the specific chord sequences in Beatles or Nick Drake songs and his lofty disdain for contemporary music can be fucking ennervating. However, he *has* written well about post-1970 music - his Uncut piece on Chic was as good as anything I've read on Rodgers & Edwards, but I'd ultimately put him down as a great writer when sticking to what he knows, but all too often an excruciating one when he takes on what he doesn't know. Not too different from a great many boomers, then.

And I say good on him. He's one of the good guys.

No other band has had quite 7-dwarves-ish type names.

(Also, the editor of Salon's books section, which is pop culture if not pop music, anyway I forget her name, but I despise her from start to finish. She's pure knee-jerk hipster reaction.)

But I loathe Kathryn Flett. Don't think she writes about music much tho. Luckily

I'll tell you who's really shit, though - Johnny Rogan. Not strictly a journalist, but a shockingly inept writer nonetheless. Much of that Smiths book is toe-curling, and I just read his Wham! biog, which is snide and really, really excruciatingly written. On "Wham! Rap": "Even more irritating was the glee with which the rapper derided his flabbergasted antagonist, whose point of view remained unuttered." Lads throwing water around at The Final concert are variously described as "repugnantly oafish...salivating animals...bestial water-spitting louts..." existing in "the stench- filled sandpit of infantile degeneracy." But if you really want a laugh, read his slim volume on Van Morrison, which ranks alongside Tony Blackburn's autobiography "The Living Legend" as one of the most unintentionally hilarious books ever.

I love that! Tom, I don't know if FT is still looking for a catchphrase but if so I think you'd have a winner with that.

I hadn't even thought of Rogan, but looking back now I remember thinking how shockingly poor the Severed Alliance was. A good writer, no, even an average writer could have gotten a lot more out of the material he had. But he drew the most uninteresting conclusions in the most uninteresting way. But it was funny the way he was affronted by Morrissey's views on religion.

I associate Miranda Sawyer with Select when it was good, with the result that although I can't remember anything she wrote I see this attack on her as an attack on something I like. Bad.

I find it hard to think of music journos I really loathe, though I would be hard-pressed to remember any I particularly like either. Very few of them have writing styles distinctive enough. Back in my hey-day of Melody Maker reading (some vague point in the very early '90s) all the writers merged into each other for me, as with the exception of Everett True (a bad writer) they all seemed to have the same enjoyably pseudy outlook on everything.

I thought you said he WASN'T rock'n'roll! Get yer story straight!

The NME does have a couple of rather entertaining journos - I've always got a soft spot for Victoria Segal's reviews. Plus I could always pick a Johnny Cigarettes piece in the first two lines. Whatever happened to Mr. Cigarettes?

No indeed.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

There's a concept, Hilburn and I. Bound to be better than My Dinner With Robert.

I don't know. Does she? Does anyone? Plese tell!

Rob Sheffield (a fine writer) manages to irk me every time I read anything he's written - just a turn of phrase, some snarky comment, SOMETHING. Even when I agree with him, he pisses me off. Eric Weisbard, especially during his "the end of Nirvana = the end of everything" phase, managed to push my buttons. I seem to have a pet peeve for folks who A) write end-of-year synopses for Spin (promoting their own agenda) or B) appear on VH1 & MTV specials (again, promoting their own agenda). (I exclude Mr. Douglas Wolk, of course, being the exception for his appearance on some long-forgotten VH1 show discussing Skip Spence. I think I even saw Sasha Frere-Jones on some show once as well. But Alan Light, Joe Levy, Ms. Powers, Mr. John Farley, Ms. Ali, anyone appearing on those VH1 "heavy metal" specials telling me what "rocks" - dear God, STOP IT!) (I think they are, actually - here's hoping.)

I will ask this question until someone brands my tongue with a hot rivet - why do you ask MUSIC JOURNALISTS about what constitutes ROCK STARDOM? You don't ask Alice Cooper about Stockhausen, do you?

You mean you've not gone into print elsewhere on the web with that very para? If not, it genuinely was deja vu and the very strongest case of it I've had in a while. Weird.

Hey, that sentence has now appeared at least twice in the last four posts. Or am I getting deja vu too?

i wonder, too, how much of a role editing and directives from above plays into some critics' brain-deadness. i know many people whose places of work have 'suggested' that they take a more 'populist' (spit ptui) angle -- ann powers was actually saying during interviews for her (terrible) book that she felt lucky at the times because she rarely had to dumb down.

I wondered what on earth Mark S was doing pressing Oasis's canonical Brit claims in 1988.

I wonder what the relevant text is?

(it wz called "look back in anguish" but that title wasn't my idea)

it wz a good idea badly realised, i think: god knows there wz enough rubbishy "celtic soul" polemic in the mag at that time, so i possibly veered against that deliberately

And anyone who works at NME, obviously.

give or take a decade or so of music journalism behind her... hse is pretty bad though...

funny to see the hate poured on hilburn and powers, not so funny to have one replace the other : (

oh wow look at sterling going at juzwiak! how strange.

(so long ago, though)

http://www.fuse.tv/contributors/david-shapiro

not clicking on that but i am glad this is now the thread for updates on this guy

i don't think david shapiro would claim to be a "Pop Journalist"

Just read the new shindig's article on Strawberry Alarm Clock and have just been rereminded why I can't stand that writer. There is just way too much self-regarding noise in the piece.
Tend to find that any time I bother reading that guy. Used to annoy me that he'd get given items I wanted to find out about to review in various psych mags and I'd just be reminded that the guy was in love with himself instead of finding out about the product.

Thank me very much oh wait.

what an odd thread to read over a decade (!) on