― Omar, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
In fact, having kicked AR Kane to the ground yesterday, I've had a nagging wish to actually hear '69' or 'I' again to see if my criticism was valid. That's the problem with my 'culling the runts of the litter policy' (see another thread!) - there's no going back. Maybe Napster will turn up something. Ah well - back to "Louie Louie".
― Dr. C, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Really should give the _Nuggets_ box a long overdue relisten.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― keith, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Kodanshi, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Gavster, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― flowersdie, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 1 November 2002 06:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago) link
― christhamrin (christhamrin), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 25 August 2006 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 25 August 2006 07:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Always the Up Home! EP, always.
― Venga (Venga), Friday, 25 August 2006 07:48 (seventeen years ago) link
pulled Sufi out the other day...didn't hold up as much as I thought it would...maybe more due to the lousy CD quality than the tunes...
― hank (hank s), Friday, 25 August 2006 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Venga (Venga), Friday, 25 August 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― dud Hab 'C' dEva (Dada), Friday, 25 August 2006 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― dud Hab 'C' dEva (Dada), Friday, 25 August 2006 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 25 August 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link
his voice is a big part of this.
but also not enough rock.
― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Friday, 25 August 2006 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 25 August 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 August 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 25 August 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link
gonna throw 69 in next; report to follow.
― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link
But these are obviously just random fractured first impressions, and should be taken with enough grains of salt to kill your grandparents.
― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― blood bitch (blood bitch), Saturday, 9 September 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link
wow! did THE BELOVED just rip off A LOVE FROM OUTER SPACE and just make a whole album based on that one song or what?? i'm shocked. another revelation from SPOTIFY!
― piscesx, Monday, 30 March 2009 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
About damn time!
http://www.factmag.com/2012/07/10/the-singles-of-lost-80s-legends-a-r-kanes-compiled/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 12:48 (eleven years ago) link
i bought these dudes' album like 14 years ago or so and thought it was totally forgettable. maybe time to revisit?
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
they had three albums, first two are classics but quite different from each other
― gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
A slightly obvious and yet also misleading comparison, but in some ways A.R. Kane's early singles are to '69' as Disco Inferno's singles are to 'D. I. Go Pop'. I understood the early hosannas a lot more once i'd heard "Lollita", "Up" and "Green Hazed Daze". '69' is quite an inscrutable album by comparison, at least at first.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
great, closest to the e.ps I get is the Americana cd and that is far from complete and duplicates lp stuff.Looking forward to this.
Were the 1st 2 lps remastered over the last couple of years? I have cds of both of them but I know at least i is pretty ancient.New Clear Child wasn't as good neither was the Sufi material.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
years after ILM (read: Ned Raggett) convinced me to give them a listen, I love "i", and find 69 "totally forgettable". I'd definitely check out a singles comp tho!
― visions of kreayshawn with joanna newsom (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
Tim f otm re: DI comparisons
― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah that's a sharp comparison.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
No remasters for the two albums yet afaik. Rudy Tambala has been answering fan questions here for a minute. He corrected me on the assumption Adrian Sherwood mixed one of their 12"s. I coulda sworn I got that info from his former bandmate...
― Pacific Rinko (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
The albums were rereleased some years back, but not remastered, I think. Could be wrong.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
I saw a 2004 release noted on rateyourmusic but somebody else has said that was a straight reissue of the previous version.Hope that means there was a 90s remaster, otherwise the cds are the same as the late 80s which I don't think can be true.
Hopefully this singles compi will mean somebody looks at redoing the lps.
I think I saw them live once at the Clarendon, Hammmersmith. Can't remember who with. Have hoped that a live set or 2 would appear on Dime or similar.
THey started as a 3 piece live if i'm remembering right. Had a bassist called Russell who went onto play guitar with Terminal Cheesecake and later Skullflower.I think they played live with a drum machine but could be wrong.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 09:44 (eleven years ago) link
He corrected me on the assumption Adrian Sherwood mixed one of their 12"s. I coulda sworn I got that info from his former bandmate...
I had heard this too - maybe even in the press way back when.
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
I bought a promotional copy of this record and it was filled with clippings, an old school one-sheet (stapled), a glossy photo, stickers, and other promo stuff.
Also, it rules.
― purp (roxymuzak), Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
Very cool!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 February 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
<3 this album
― harvester of lols (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 07:37 (eleven years ago) link
"Sun Falls Into the Sea" has turned into one of my favorite songs from the 80s
― my autocorrect is in Spanish right now (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 June 2013 05:27 (ten years ago) link
Enjoyed them a lot live when I saw them way back when
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 June 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
Found this via the "music to get stoned to" thread ... Singles comp is making me :)I hear Lansing Dreiden in here
― calstars, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 01:20 (six years ago) link
Weird thread where people disconnect and connect all the time to this band. The same seems to be happening to me. I remember being very disappointed by 69 when I first listened to it about ten years ago. I thought it was an uninspired mess. Now I listen to this singles comp and "Catch Your Drift" and it kind of klicks. They seem like a quite good blend of Cocteau Twins and MBV with a dash of dub. I have to investigate further. On my streaming service Deezer they are under three or four different names/spellings. Better to look for the songs to find the albums.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
Um, can't believe I missed the Jübl album til now -- it's awesome! Finally fell in love with New Clear Child a few years ago so very much hearing/enjoying it in that context. Guess I should find the Sufi albums...
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:30 (three years ago) link
The first Sufi album is really great. The second, Lovers and Trippers, less so, kinda pedestrian trip hop.
― henry s, Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link
the first Sufi album has involvement from kevin 'the bug' martin.something i only found out a few months ago.
― mark e, Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
I think Virgin bankrolled the Sufi album as part of their ambient/isolationist series, which Kevin Martin was heavily involved with.
― henry s, Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
good Sunday review on Pitchfork todayhttps://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/ar-kane-69/
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
Never really got on with New Clear Child but I do love the first track on it
Xp - oh wow!
― would a nit be nice? (NickB), Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
It does seem like interest in them is picking up again, Nts radio did a one hour special on them a couple of months back
― would a nit be nice? (NickB), Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
That new review is good to see!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 February 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link
If only we could buy the album. I have never ever seen a copy out in the wild.And given the chaos, I doubt it will be up on bandcamp in the near future
― mark e, Sunday, 14 February 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlh3AmWK3jE
― xzanfar, Monday, 15 February 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link
If only we could buy the album.I have never ever seen a copy out in the wild.And given the chaos, I doubt it will be up on bandcamp in the near future
― mark e, Sunday, February 14, 2021 6:43 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
On CD? The vinyl is still pretty cheap.
― Evan, Monday, 15 February 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link
yeah cd.not a big fan of vinyl.
― mark e, Monday, 15 February 2021 10:38 (three years ago) link
My favorite of Alex's solo tracks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC3AXycUg5M
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 13:46 (three years ago) link
Meantime in good timing, Jübl just sent out this message:
heloo - we been quiet for a while - working ever so s sl o w l y on a handful of remixes and new stuff - will let you know when it comes real - hope the world's treating you good - J
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
https://mixmag.net/feature/exploring-the-black-roots-of-shoegaze-and-dream-pop
seen this doing the rounds a bit - a piece in Mixmag of all places, on the Black roots of shoegaze, featuring an interview with Rudy Tambala. There's nothing new said in it if you've been following AR Kane's online presence lately but it's nice to see it stated so clearly:
that’s what the experimental edge of Black music always does; invent, innovate and create new shit, which is rapidly imitated and assimilated
― boxedjoy, Friday, 28 May 2021 12:10 (three years ago) link
Quite right
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 May 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
Oh my god, that is reveletory. So awesome. I'd been looking for something like black shoegaze forever.
And that black artist database!
So psyched for more mixtape madness.
Thanks.
― Howie Loved Your Mom (I M Losted), Friday, 28 May 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link
yeah thanks for the link!
and I M Losted, you probably know dean blunt already, but if not, this is total dream pop vibes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQfwPziK-SA
― building a hole (NickB), Friday, 28 May 2021 23:26 (three years ago) link
Yeah that Spotify playlist is distinctly lacking Dean Blunt and any recent Yves Tumor
― boxedjoy, Friday, 28 May 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link
Luaka Bop is releasing a new version of Americana on vinyl but the real news in ways is that there's a new Greg Tate piece with it, one of the last things he wrote before his passing. You can read it here:
https://www.luakabop.com/products/a-r-kane-americana
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 December 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link
Wasn't this already a recent RSD release?
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 1 December 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
They did, but this is a new variant per the PR:
Some of you might remember that way back in April we made a limited 2LP gatefold edition of Americana for Record Store Day (thirty years after its first release)—well, we held a few copies back for you. It has the same beautiful cover and artwork as the original (by Fabien Baron of Baron & Baron), but it comes with new notes by the late, great art and music writer Greg Tate, which were among the last things he wrote before he died.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 December 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link
I had the vinyl....you had to sit down and listen to it. It's got noise but also delicate and melancholy, it's got all of these jazz and reggae influences. Tough thing for a young band to pull off.
Funny this thread was revived...it's such a wintry record for me.
― Picture of Chairman Mao (I M Losted), Friday, 2 December 2022 06:59 (one year ago) link
I don't understand the obsession with all the RSD-centric vinyl variants coming out these days.
Seems like such an arcane hobby...
― I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Sunday, 4 December 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link
Arcane, you say
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 December 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link
Per this FB post, remasters of Up Home, sixty-nine and "i" due late June on 12", digital and of course ethereal formats. (Per a followup, no CD plans yet unless there is demand.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 April 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link
Nice! I was pleased to find a decent enough copy of ‘69’ on vinyl in Berlin for €3 a couple of weeks ago in amongst some big crates of vinyl outside a shop. Got a Cardiacs LP too.
― hamicle, Friday, 21 April 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
remasters of Up Home, sixty-nine and "i" due late June on 12"
I keep checking online to see if there have been any updates on this. Surely they should be announcing these reissues any day? Needless to say, I'm stoked
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link
Rudi showed off some test pressings on FB the other day, it's happening.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:38 (one year ago) link
Beautiful news
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
Really enjoyed this NTS show featuring a great interview with Rudy and some music.
https://www.mixcloud.com/NTSRadio/post-punk-britain-ar-kane-19th-may-2023/
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 25 May 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link
^loved that, thank you for posting. His enthusiasm is wonderful, as are his recollections.
― willem, Friday, 26 May 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link
And speaking of fantastic Rudy interviews, a great one here from Joshua Minsoo Kim at Tone Glow
https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-glow-101-ar-kane
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:45 (nine months ago) link
yeah that's a wonderful interview, jmk is one of the best interviewers around
― ufo, Thursday, 14 September 2023 23:29 (nine months ago) link
Yes , very interesting .
― curmudgeon, Friday, 15 September 2023 15:13 (nine months ago) link
Love this
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 15 September 2023 15:50 (nine months ago) link