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xero (xero), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Cool! thanks, xero.

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Great news!

For the longest time, I could only hear "Evangelist" (from In A Gut's House) off that Blast First! comp Nothing Short Of Total War, which was all mastered on one track, so I had to fast forward to the track manually to grab it.

San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

conviction fucking slays

M@tt He1geson, Rendolent Ding-Dong (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

It does and then some.

Next we will need a CD of the Gynecologists, Nina Canal's pre-Ut no wave band. Apparently the only extant recording, a live tape recorded by Dan Graham, is in the possession of one T. Moore.

xero (xero), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Are the reissues out? I haven't seen them anywhere?

T. Weiss (Timmy), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Me neither. Didn't know about them til this revive.

I've got Griller & Early Live Life on LP but still need the other stuff.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Eh, I hadn't heard anything about this either. Cool news if it happens.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Oo 'eck, a MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/Ut3girls

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

AWESOMMMMME

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone who doesn't know the track needs to listen to Canker.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Did these guys actually invent Throwing Muses?

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Part three of that interview is up:

http://www.warpedrealitymagazine.com/2006/07/ut_part_three.html

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

(Bruce Russell reviewed these reissues in wire.)

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

The Mute site gives 3 October as the release date for both reissues. Doesn't look like there'll be any extra material on them.

Anyone who doesn't know the track needs to listen to Canker.

YES. It's on their MySpace page. (Equally awesome from Griller: "Safe Burning" and "Rummy.") ...Their MySpace page describes them as "Indie / Alternative / Grunge." WAHT.

Did these guys actually invent Throwing Muses?

Ha, the same thing has crossed my mind more than once.

(Bruce Russell reviewed these reissues in wire.)

Hm. It's not online, is it?

xero (xero), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Jacqui Ham is putting out a new CD with her band Dial soon as well.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Cool! Dial's album Infraction (1997) is still available from Forced Exposure. It has been described to me as "noisy ramblings a la Dead C, though w/ a drum machine [...] The first tune sounds like Dead C crossed w/ Big Black." MUST. BUY.

xero (xero), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Curious to hear the new album. I haven't listened to Infraction in a long time.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

That Dial album is nearing completion. Should be on its way soon.

VisaForViolet, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

sweet. i loved the other ones.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 7 June 2007 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

OK, that new Dial album, 168k, will be out very shortly. Forced Exposure, Carrot Top, and NYC shops like Sound Fix + Other Music should have copies really soon, if not NOW.

There's a nice review + MP3 over at Marc Masters' NoiseWeek blog and another here.

VisaForViolet, Sunday, 16 September 2007 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Apparently there was an Ut reunion show in London last week. It was unannounced and only four songs were played (Big Wing, Hotel, Swallow, Confidential) but there are other shows planned.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Now it's leaked that they'll be playing in NY at Issue Project Room as part of something called the Theoretical Music Conference, something organized by David Grubbs.

dan selzer, Saturday, 17 July 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow I missed Elvis's post before - wonder where that happened, I had no idea!

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 17 July 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

It was at a Dial show at the Luminaire, Dial being Jacqui Ham's band.

Look! : http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=4405026&blogId=536728354

A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Saturday, 17 July 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Link to info on NYC "Theoretical Music Conference" show on November 5th: http://events.myspace.com/Event/5799909/Theoretical-Music-Conference#

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 18 July 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Really hoping they'll make it out west.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 18 July 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

That Ut live record is still great.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 July 2010 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.as220.org/images/calendar/UT.jpg

vehemence is mine (Edward III), Thursday, 7 October 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Also this date:

http://www.issueprojectroom.org/2010/09/26/theoretical-music-concert/

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

t/s: ut vs ui

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

vs un

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

would even sfj choose ut over ui? obv he'd prefer esg. too bad there will never be a 3tkf reunion.

dan selzer, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

there are quite a few feuds in this scene that continue to this day

sarahel, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI_dD3SMaIg

^ could listen to this forever btw

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

there are quite a few feuds in this scene that continue to this day
― sarahel, Thursday, October 7, 2010 9:22 PM

omg, is that ever true...watch your step around one particular member of ut--just wow

iago g., Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Just pulled out a review I wrote of In Gut's House for the Boston Phoenix in 1988. Haven't listened to the band at all since almost that long, I don't think; pretty sure I used to have the first four records on vinyl (Ut through Gut's House), all of which I mention in the piece, but I sold them decades ago. Anyway, I was clearly fishing for ways to describe what I liked about their music in the review, and didn't have much luck doing it. I compared them to the Raincoats more than anybody else, though there were parts of "I.D." and "Homebleed" that sounded like Eno and Penguin Cafe Orchestra to me. My Gut's House copy was on Blast First, with "10 songs stretched over two 45 RPM EPs" (not sure if that was the only version or not), and I called it "the most affable, least polyrhythmic, least abrasive record Ut have made, and it features their most decipherable songs (that's not saying much). All of which might explain why it's a bit less charming than its predecessors." I thought the one great cut on it was "Mosquito Botticelli," which apparently had lots of dub echo and cut-and-splice, plus double drums and double harmonica parts; called it "outrageously silly," and thought it ranked w/ "Confidential" (from Conviction and the Confidential EP, reminded me of Patti Smith) as their "finest mesh of noises and voices." So there you go.

xhuxk, Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

At their best, there was just something wildly transcendent about Ut as a band and the individual characters involved. My favorite Ut moment is "Safe Burning," the first track on Griller, where Jacqui and Sally both sing and then they're all singing and making noises together at the end. (I think Nina is on there, too.)

timellison, Friday, 8 October 2010 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New site up:

http://www.utmusic.net/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 October 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Did anyone get along to any of their shows?

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ask me on tuesday

death panel of the mods (Edward III), Saturday, 6 November 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ut was great. very... ut-like? weird, playful, caustic, austere. members switched between gtr/bass/drums on almost every song. they did 3 or 4 songs without drums (including "rummy") which was kind of strange. pretty long set, they closed with "sham shack" from the first 12".

talked to nina after the show, asked her about a reissue of conviction and she said they are trying to dig up some backstock of it. sounds like they have returned for the time being and plan to keep doing shows.

about 60 folks showed up, a decent turnout for a rainy monday night in pvd. kind of surprised at the response to their revival, I can't remember that many ut fans running around when they were active in the 80s. they're playing boston tomorrow night.

death panel of the mods (Edward III), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice!

members switched between gtr/bass/drums on almost every song.

Yes, they did this both times that I saw them in the 80s too. THink they also had a bloke playing the drums on some of the rockier songs then though iirc. The name Charlie springs to mind.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Never seen band members switching in between, ever - sounds fun.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHhnHVrLHgk

^ sounds fucking great

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8-5peQ-toE

^ SHam SHack

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bxnImehvyc

^ Hotel

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

was at that brooklyn show. they were good but they literally took anywhere from 1-5 minutes in between every song. really kinda killed the momentum!

original bgm, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

well, it was their first headlining gig in almost 20 years.

death panel of the mods (Edward III), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, I still had a good time. not a diss. just gave things a basement show vibe, which has its charms.

it was pretty disorienting because I couldn't see them at all (stage wasn't elevated) and they didn't really address the audience in between the songs either. I just found out they were switching instruments by reading this thread!

original bgm, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

!!!

UT
Friday 23 September
The Lexington, 96-98 Pentonville Road, Islington, N1 9JB

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 16 May 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

!!!

immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Monday, 16 May 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Conviction is a great record; don't sleep on that one...

excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i almost picked up In Gut's House this weekend, but it was $20 and i didn't know what it sounded like. i knew it was post punk and i think it was on souljazz's new york noise comp, but no one at the store could help me out, so i passed.

jaxon, Monday, 16 May 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Of the top of my head, I think the track on the soul jazz comp was earlier. In Gut's House is pretty great though I mostly return to two longtime faves...Evangelist and Mosquito Botticelli.

dan selzer, Monday, 16 May 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

UT
Friday 23 September
The Lexington, 96-98 Pentonville Road, Islington, N1 9JB

― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 16 May 2011 Bookmark

No fking way!! *marks calendar*

xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 May 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

xp, yeah, the track on New York Noise 2 (if that's the Soul Jazz comp people are referring to) is "Sham Shack," from their 1984 debut EP.

xhuxk, Monday, 16 May 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

here's what you missed out on jaxon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONqP2rnCKo

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Monday, 16 May 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I prolly listen to in gut's house and the first EP more than anything else by them

they never made a bad album, or a non-interesting one

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Monday, 16 May 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

so the uk shows are imminent. who's reachin?

brighton show this sunday - cannot wait! listen to 'in gut's house' all the time, so dense & fractured. love the dead c reference upthread.

ennui soundsystem, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 09:09 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to the London show on Friday.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 09:14 (twelve years ago) link

I'll be at the Brighton show too. I know that Bruce Russell was a big fan of the band cos I remember he talked about them in a review of the Dial album that he wrote in Opprobrium.

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

got my eye on Bristol on Saturday but I need transport, also I am going to a cheese festival in the daytime which normally leads to me eating so much cheese I need to lie down all evening

the wrong terry to fuckwit (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

would love to hear all yr thoughts after yr respective shows. i'm also keen to find a copy of bruce russell's wire review of the ut re-issues.

mencap, being "with cheese" shouldn't stop you going out and having fun like everyone else, but i guess i understand.

ennui soundsystem, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

I'll be at the Brighton show too. *excited*

Should actually listen to some other stuff aside from In Gut's House on repeat, mind you.

emil.y, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link

I'm trying to free up my diary to get to Bristol.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 12:03 (twelve years ago) link

I'll be at the Brighton show too. *excited*

Hooray! Their last album, Griller, is on spotify btw (along with In Gut's House):

http://open.spotify.com/album/7GoWZB4mnyBDgod9AAWRBI

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YviHsiTQvmY&feature=related

timellison, Sunday, 1 July 2012 05:51 (eleven years ago) link

I really liked Quint, Sally Young's later folky-proggy outfit. Their lp Time Wounds All Heels is pretty god though they may have been better live.

Stevolende, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

I had no idea they'd reformed until I saw this thread. Thought it would have come up somewhere else.

Stevolende, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

Great video Tim, thx

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

Makes me crazy and mad that i missed them though!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

They were pretty great in Brighton, I will say.

I'd heard of Quint, but never made the connection. Might see if I can find some youtubes.

emil.y, Sunday, 1 July 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

six years pass...

From show in Paris earlier in the month:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ax_OFb1w4

timellison, Saturday, 27 April 2019 04:51 (five years ago) link

I used to have all of their records. I wish they were available on streaming - it kind of sucks that I can't put tracks of theirs in a mix.

Early stuff is here:

https://utmusic.bandcamp.com

Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra? (I M Losted), Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

bought a copy of 'in gut's house' from a guy on discogs marketplace, he included a photocopy of a review penned by none other than mark s!

donna rouge, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

it me haha, hi donna

i'm back at griller today for obvious and sad reasons 😔

mark s, Thursday, 9 May 2024 17:39 (two weeks ago) link

Safe Burning is such a strong start to an album. Just amazing sound, and Ut at their most accessible.

dan selzer, Thursday, 9 May 2024 18:30 (two weeks ago) link

The best they ever sounded. They really went out at their peak.

timellison, Thursday, 9 May 2024 22:28 (two weeks ago) link

I didn't think this when it came out -- it seemed a bit too clenched and I was secretly a little disappointed -- but I think that I do think this now.

"Went out" isn't right though, they still tour now and then!

mark s, Friday, 10 May 2024 09:14 (two weeks ago) link

the drummer makes a big difference to the feel of the music. not sure who he was, looks like he also played with the pastels at some point. saw them live a few times around this point. but that was as the usual three piece all swapping instruments between songs

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 10 May 2024 09:54 (two weeks ago) link

Griller was the first one I bought and I was a little disappointed with it at first, probably because all I knew about them was they were a "no wave" band, and I expected them to sound like Teenage Jesus & The Jerks or something. I bought Early Live Life next which was a bit more like that. of course I grew to love Griller after I'd listened to it a few times

Colonel Poo, Friday, 10 May 2024 09:59 (two weeks ago) link

faintly wondering if "charlie dinsdale" (= the drummer on several tracks, tho not all) is maybe actually a pseudonym, for some arcane in-indie industry reason

if not, the pastels and ut is a p strong CV lol, he shd be inducted into RaRHoF

mark s, Friday, 10 May 2024 10:32 (two weeks ago) link

i mean he's just "charlie d" on the LP sleeve but discogs says it"s "charlie dinsdale"

mark s, Friday, 10 May 2024 10:41 (two weeks ago) link

fwiw it looks like the only Pastels release he was on was their collab with Jad Fair, which might make it more likely it's the same person

Colonel Poo, Friday, 10 May 2024 10:47 (two weeks ago) link

I didn't think this when it came out -- it seemed a bit too clenched and I was secretly a little disappointed -- but I think that I do think this now.

"Went out" isn't right though, they still tour now and then!


i saw them comparatively recently and it was great!

Fizzles, Friday, 10 May 2024 14:49 (two weeks ago) link


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