― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 01:57 (twenty years ago) link
(Obv I'd have preferred a double CD of etc etc called Druqks as it turns out.)
I still like Strings Of Life but I'm not totally sure how many 18 year olds would. Pretty much all 86-88 stuff sounds really slow now.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 01:57 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 01:59 (twenty years ago) link
Craig David/Artful Dodger - Re-Rewind. R'n b has overtaken this, and the whole UK garage sound now has dated badly.
Reel 2 Reel - I Like to move it. Kids would laugh at this the way kinds then laughed at it.
also, when you think about the dance canon, it makes you realise just how much shit was signed or released that was utterly pointless:
wiseguys, crystal method or monkey mafia, anyone?
and all the careers that survived for years on the basis of a few good early tracks: The Orb, Orbital, Juan Atkins...
― paulhw (paulhw), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:01 (twenty years ago) link
Yes it seems a bit unfair to suggest "I Like To Move It" as a 'sacred cow', I did it at karaoke though and the rap isn't as easy as I thought it would be.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link
i vigorously disagree with the uk garage assessment, i suppose it goes without saying.
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:04 (twenty years ago) link
And why is sounding like a SHANNON record at all bad?!?!?!
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:06 (twenty years ago) link
also, all those old school keyboard patterns sound way more electro than house now, with the hindsight of 10-15 years of history.
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link
Inner City Life was hailed as a classic more out of hope than anything else I think. I can't remember a record from that time that I tried quite as hard to like.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:09 (twenty years ago) link
MAW feat India - "I can't get no sleep"
I think this sounds pretty corny now, much as I used to love it. The minimal US garage sound is kind of timeless but all the disco-ised stuff now sounds like Room 5 (i.e. bad).
Todd Terry - "Weekend"
What a pointless record. The original sounds much fresher and the stuttering beats which are charming on some other records from the era just really grate.
De'Lacy - "Hideaway"
This comes across as really thin and watery. I think we expect monster bass with everything now, and dance tunes that don't have it really suffer.
― Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:09 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:10 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:11 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:13 (twenty years ago) link
On Derrick May again, I was somewhat embarassed by the fact that I nominated my FAVOURITE D May track as my least favourite. The Dance totally rocks my world and always has. I don't know what a teenager would make of it though. It's Strings of Life that I think is over-rated. Especially those string stabs that go all the way thru. They're crap. I like the ambient version but.
Even more controversially, I want to advance the thesis (ooh, thesis!)that it's the brutalist techno that ages well. The noodling bendy string stuff, with fingers studiously avoiding sharps and flats, making pretty tunes, hasn't aged so well. Even here, there's some exceptions, like R-Tyme's 'R-Theme'.
Almost all Alan Oldham's brutalist stuff has aged really well, cos he's so damn funky.
Todd Terry, to my ears, sounds old-fashioned but good, due to his keen structural skills and his rhythm box programming.
Hey I think we need some teenagers to answer these questions.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:13 (twenty years ago) link
I think the Bjorky vocal tracks on that Alex Reece record probably sound a lot better now than they did in '96, I can never even remember Pulp Fiction through.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:14 (twenty years ago) link
"The UK pop R&B scene as far as I can see has 'moved on' to retro-disco (good though some of it is) and fleamarket Destiny's Child knock-offs, witness the hugely disappointing second Mis-Teeq record."
B-b-but Tom the Destiny's Child knock-offs on the second Mis-Teeq record are better than those on the first!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:14 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:14 (twenty years ago) link
wasn't the commotion over "inner city life" more about the "jah: the seventh seal" mix anyway?
i'm not sure derrick may ever appealed to any american eighteen year-olds who weren't there in person at the music institute.
"french kiss" is more relevant now than any other time in the last ten years, same with the other 86-88 tracks mentioned.
you're starting to resort to stuff that wasn't ever in any "canon", jacob.
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:16 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:16 (twenty years ago) link
??? "Nitro"? "Eye Candy"? "Just For You"?
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:18 (twenty years ago) link
Yeah, but it's a much different story elsewhere in the world.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:19 (twenty years ago) link
Those moist ballads on Eye Candy really grew on me after a while as well. Check the harmonies on "Home Tonight"!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:20 (twenty years ago) link
Alison limerick - Where love lives Joey beltram - Energy flash Ce ce rogers - Someday Josh wink - Higher state of conciousness Eric b & rakim - Paid in full Underworld - Cowgirl/rez Mariah carey - Dreamlover Future sound of london - Papua new guinea Joe smooth - Promised land Massive attack - Unfinished sympathy Orbital - Chime Donna summer - I feel love Nightwriters - Let the music use you Fpi project - Everybody(all over the world) Jaydee - Plastic dreams X-press 2-london - X-press(the journey continues) Rhythim is rhythim - Strings of life Jam & spoon - Stella Mr fingers - Can you feel it Inner city - Good life Everything but the gir l - Missing Gat decor -passion Leftfield/lydon -Open up Bizarre inc -Playing with knives Dsk - What would we do Hardfloor - Hardtrance acperience Dj misjah & dj tim - Access Stone roses - Fools gold Itj bukem - Horizons Dave clarke - Red 2(of 3) Phuture - Acid trax Funky green dogsfrom outer space reach for me Sabres of paradise - Smokebelch 2 K-klass - Rhythm is a mystery Moby - Go! Urban soul - Alright Age of love - Age of love Candi staton - You got the love Frankie knuckles/jamie principle - Your love Aphex twin - Digeridoo Goodmen - Give it up Baby d - Let me be your fantasy Circuit - Shelter me Jam & spoon - Follow me Bassheads - Is there anybody out there? A guy called gerald - Voodoo ray Billie ray martin - Your loving arms Ron trent - Altered states Brothers in rhythm -Such a good feeling Empirion - Narcotic influence Sl2 - Djs take control De'lacy - Hideaway Lil' louis - French kiss Degrees of motion - Do you want it right now? Sueno latino -Sueno latino Ravesignal 3 - Horsepower Last rhythm - Last rhythm Shades of rhythm - The sound of eden Slam - Positive education Bucketheads - The bomb! Lionrock - Packet of peace Inner city - Pennies from heaven Glam - Hell's party Hashim - Al naafyish(the soul) South street player - (Who)keeps changing your mind? Marshall jefferson - Move your body(house music anthem) Kariya - Let me love you for tonight Subliminal cuts - Le voie le soleil Mantronix - King of the beats River ocean - Love and happiness Urban shakedown - Some justice Nghtcrawlers - Push the feeling on M people - How can i love you more? 808 state - Pacific state Capricorn - 20 hz Lfo - Lfo Leftfield - Not forgotten Dee patten - Who's the badman? Dan hartman - Relight my fire Frankie knuckles - The whistle song Outlander - Vamp Ruffneck - Everybody be somebody Red planet - Stardancer Nitro deluxe - This brutal house Sterling void - It's alright/runaway girl The prodigy - Out of space Soul 2 soul - Keep on movin' Liquid - Sweet harmony Stetsasonic - Talkin' all that jazz Disco evangelists - De niro Grace - Not over yet Young mc - Know how Robin s - Show me love Rhythm on the loose - Break of dawn Cool jack - Just come D:ream - U r the best thing Robert owens - I'll be your friend Felix - Don't you want me? A homeboy,a hippie and a funki dread - Total confusion Jesus loves you - Generations of love
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:20 (twenty years ago) link
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:24 (twenty years ago) link
I'm sure I remember one though, maybe it was in something else entirely.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:25 (twenty years ago) link
― paulhw (paulhw), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:25 (twenty years ago) link
The Beatles “Tomorrow Never Knows” (EMI 1966)(Revolver L.P.) James Brown “Funky Drummer” (King 1969)(7”) Marvin Gaye “What’s Going On” (Motown 1970)(L.P.) Incredible Bongo Band “Apache” (MGM 1973)(Bongo Rock L.P.) Augustus Pablo “King Tubby Meets the Rockers Uptown” (Island 1976)(7”) Double Exposure “Ten Per Cent” (Salsoul 1976)(12”) Donna Summer “I Feel Love” (Casablanca 1977)(12”) Kraftwerk “Trans Europe Express” (EMI 1977)(King Klang L.P.) Grandmaster Flash “Adventure On the Wheels of Steel” (Sugarhill 1981)(12”) Afrika Bambaataa “Planet Rock” (Tommy Boy 1982)(12”) New Order “Blue Monday” (Factory 1983)(12”) Streetsounds Electro “Volumes One - Eight” (Streetsounds Compilations 1983-5)(12”) Double D & Steinski “Lesson Three” (Tommy Boy 1985)(12” promo) Mr Fingers “Can You Feel it” (Trax 1987)(12”) Phuture “Acid Tracks” (Trax 1987)(12”) Techno “The House Sound of Detroit” (Ten Compilations 1988)(12”) Public Enemy “It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back” (Def Jam 1989)(L.P.) A Guy Called Gerald “Voodoo Ray” (Rham 1988)(12”) Rhythim is Rhythim “Strings of Life” (Transmat/Jack Trax 1988)(12”) De La Soul “Three Feet High & Rising” (Tommy Boy 1989)(L.P.) Lil’ Louis “French Kiss” (FFRR 1989)(12”) Soul II Soul “Club Classics” (Virgin 1989)(L.P.) 808 State “Pacific State” (ZTT 1989)(12”) Primal Scream “Loaded” (Creation 1990)(12”) The KLF “Chill Out” (KLF Communications 1990)(L.P.) Massive Attack “Blue Lines” (Virgin 1991)(L.P.) Joey Beltram “Energy Flash” (R&S 1991)(12”) Leftfield “Not Forgotten (Hard Hands mix)” (Outer Rhythm 1991)(12”) Lennie De Ice “We Are I.E.” (Reel 2 Real 1991)(12”) The Prodigy "Charly" (XL 1991)(12") The Future Sound of London “Papua New Guinea” (Jumpin’ & Pumpin’ 1991)(12”) The Aphex Twin “Digeridoo” (R&S 1992)(12”) Gat Decor “Passion” (Effective 1992)(12”) Jam & Spoon “Stella” (R&S 1992)(12”) Hardfloor “Hardtrance Acperience” (Harthouse 1992)(12”) DJ Shadow “In/Flux” (Mo’Wax 1993)(12”) L.T.J. Bukem “Music” (Good Looking 1993)(12”) Marmion “Schöneberg” (Superstation 1994)(12”) Dave Clarke “Red 2” (Bush 1994)(12”) Dust Brothers “Chemical Beats” (Junior Boy’s Own 1994)(12”) Goldie “Inner City Life” (FFRR 1994)(12”) Robert Hood “Minimal Nation” (M-Plant 1993)(12”) Basic Channel “Phylyps Trak II” (Basic Channel 1995)(12”) DJ Trace “Mutant Revisited” (SOUR 1995)(12”) Fatboy Slim “Everybody Needs a 303” (Skint 1995)(12”) D’Angelo “Brown Sugar” (Chrysalis 1995)(12”) Misjah & Time “Access” (X-Trax 1995)(12”) Double 99 “Rip Groove” (Northwestside 1997)(12”) Tina Moore “Never Gonna Let You Go” (Delirious 1997)(12”) Stardust “Music Sounds Better With You” (Roulé 1998)(12”)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link
― jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:28 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:29 (twenty years ago) link
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 8 December 2003 02:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
For me Exit Planet Dust is like drinking Belgian fruit beer. Intriguing, a little strange, outwardly appealing but having to take more than a few sips is more than the body can stand. Whenever I hear 'The brother's gonna work it out' and the crunching bass and beats comes in, I'm praying for the record to end.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link
(x-post not esp bothered one way or the other, Dan)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
I wonder if we're watching the normal life cycle of a major genre being played out here.
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link
'Give It Up' is a good example because the 'tribal beats' thing has seemingly disappeared entirely from the Dance palette this decade. Plus, the way that track is structured follows a certain model which I'm not sure exists anymore. The marimba-like riff that comes in halfway through really lights the whole thing up and it feels more like a pop song than an underground club thing as a result. But this line was blurrier then and now seems much more clearly defined. Or maybe I'm wrong and there are similar recent examples of a similar thing today.
Talking about tracks like this in terms of their crossover success I often find useful but then the charts seemed more relevant then than they do now too. I was just thinking that you may well get a 'French Kiss' sort of track in the top 3 today if the gimmick was plugged well enough, but you don't seem to get sublime instrumental dance tracks in the charts today like you once did with 'Pacific', or maybe even Robert Miles 'Children'! So what is their relevance, in that respect?
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link
also:
6th Feb - The Source feat. Candi Staton - You Got The Love (Positiva)
is on EMI's release schedule for 2006 - any ideas what form it's going to take this time?
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Let it be Gabba!
Why hasn't there been an old-skool/jungle-techno revival lately?
― Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― could be on drugs, who knows, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Presumably there has been a bit of this within the scene itself - people like High Contrast remixing 'Renegade Snares' etc.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Yawn (Wintermute), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― jcartledge (jcartledge), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Jacob, do you know the new version of "Hypnotic tango" by Master Blaster? Maybe you should give it a try...
― Rudolf (Rudolf), Monday, December 8, 2003 10:01 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
L.. O.. L.. you've gotta be kidding, right?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 18 July 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link
It's so rediculously over the top, i love that version. Their album is great too.
― Siegbran, Saturday, 18 July 2009 08:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean these guys don't give those italo tunes the reverential treatment at all like the Bunker dudes etc but totally maintain the utter cheesiness factor - 00s style.
― Siegbran, Saturday, 18 July 2009 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link
we need one for rock/indie/etc
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 15 May 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link
The ultimate goal of pop is to eventually (or rapidly) become irrelevant, so congrats to everyone listed in this thread!
― everything, Monday, 15 May 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link
Is that the official statement
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 15 May 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link
we don't need anything for rock/indie
― brimstead, Monday, 15 May 2017 23:10 (seven years ago) link
some sort of vaccine maybe
― The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 May 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link
plenty of syringes in use among artists of all genres
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 15 May 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link
Ryan Adams strikes again.
― how's life, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 09:53 (seven years ago) link