SPIN Top 40 Of 2003

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I don't find them "funny" at all, though. Even Ted Leo is funnier.

― chuck, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 23:59 (twenty years ago) link

Electric Six would easily be top 20. (So would Dizzee Rascal, probably.) And I absolutely, totally agree with this, for both bands: "the Darkness...seem pretty one-dimensional compared to the groups they rip from. Though I guess the Rapture do too." (Maybe the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Ted Leo, and Drive By Truckers do too, actually--at least if you're talking Au Pairs, Thin Lizzy, and Lynyrd Skynyrd. Well, okay, maybe not Au Pairs. Their second album really did suck.)

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:04 (twenty years ago) link

i really really wanted to like that rapture album.but i don't like it so much. house of jealous lovers and that other one where he sounds like robert smith really set me up to love it, but i never want to play it.oh well.

― islandscott, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:08 (twenty years ago) link

Does Thursday even have a fanbase? They don't seem popular enough for mainstream radio fans to care, or indie enough for indie fans to care.

If all it takes to make Spin's top 40 is cop a Neil Young line for a hook, I need to start a band, post haste!!

― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:18 (twenty years ago) link

I second islandscott on the Rapture album. I love Out of the Races and Onto the Tracks, but Echoes just didn't do it for me.

― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:18 (twenty years ago) link

Thursday are very popular, especially among mall-punk/nu-emo/whatever kids. And Winona Ryder, supposedly.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:21 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, so latebloomer, forgot about that crowd. Viva MTV2!

― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:22 (twenty years ago) link

Nick Catucci gave the Thursday album four stars in Blender! He's also written every positive Evanescene article ever! (to be fair I like every Evanescence single I just haven't heard the album).

I gotta admit I'm digging Decoration Day a lot more than the cheapo Lynyrd comp called What's Your Name? that I've got. Compared to the Darkness and Rapture guys, Karen O, Patterson Hood and Ted Leo are definitely NOT as monochromatic and empty.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:32 (twenty years ago) link

neither are Mike Colley and Jason Isbell for that matter.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:32 (twenty years ago) link

"50's birthday song"!!

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:33 (twenty years ago) link

COOLEY. my bad (and I've met the guy too! when the DBTs played in town I gave them a copy of my ticket, which was for the Drive-In Truckers).

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:33 (twenty years ago) link

Oops, Radiohead was totally a mistake! I have NO use for that thing!

You couldn't have made more of a mindfuck if you tried! Let it slip in your ballot and then deny ever having thought about it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:33 (twenty years ago) link

>>I'm digging Decoration Day a lot more than the cheapo Lynyrd comp called What's Your Name? that I've got<<

Anthony, I can only chalk this up to your famous "rhythm section problem." (And remember, DBT's considerably less alt country but still not danceable enough previous album topped my list last year, unless you count bands from 25 years ago.) (Also, I didn't compare Ted Leo, etc to Darkness, etc; I compared them to Thin Lizzy, etc.)

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

WOAH. I just realized that they hated on "Re*Ac*Tor" in the reissues deal! It's WAY better than American Stars'n'Bars!

Yeah judging bands on more than their rhythm section IS my problem, Chuck.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:40 (twenty years ago) link

Ted Leo as Thin Lizzy? What the hell? I need to give that a second listen. Did I give up on it before I discovered some "Bad Reputation"-style ass-stomper near the end of the record or something?

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:43 (twenty years ago) link

here's the tracklist for What's Your Name? which along with "Freebird" is all the Lynyrd I've heard. I like the album plenty but I like Decoration Day more (though the Lynyrd album picks up near the end). My favorite song on it might be "Simple Man," which like my preference of Pearl Jam's "Jeremy" over STP's "Unglued," probably means I'll take big-ass drama over glorious rhythm sections that only Chuck talks about reverently.

1. That Smell
2. Workin' for MCA
3. Call Me the Breeze
4. Mississippi Kid
5. What's Your Name?
6. Simple Man
7. Things Goin' On
8. I Need You
9. Swamp Music
10. Sweet Home Alabama

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:47 (twenty years ago) link

ignore that picks up near the end part. the Lynyrd album kinda goes up and down, really.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:48 (twenty years ago) link

and up again.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:49 (twenty years ago) link

I think he means the Pharmacists as Thin Lizzy, Nate. And as that boring-ass Ted Leo solo EP implies, he NEEDS them.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

What, no "Tuesday's Gone"?

And yeah, that's what I was getting at, too, with the Pharmacists. I didn't feel like typing the whole thing.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:58 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I meant. Ted himself is more like Joe Jackson or Paul Weller or somebody. But the band's Lizzy rips are really blatant in a couple songs. And that EP was indeed horrible.

Drive By Truckers have yet to write a song as good as:

1. That Smell
2. Workin' for MCA
3. Call Me the Breeze
5. What's Your Name?
6. Simple Man
10. Sweet Home Alabama

Wittier lyrics, more engaged singing, fuller guitars, sadder beauty. More at STAKE. Not just a better beat, though they swung as hard as any rock band ever. But they were an album band, Anthony. You should buy their albums. The first two are a really fine place to start.

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I kinda figured they were an album band. I'll put 'em on my xmas list. And hey, remember that a year ago I was giving you shit for the DBTs! Drawl-By Truckers' Southern Fetish Opera I think I called it. Needless to say, I've been wrong before.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

did spin do the 10 best albums you haven't heard list? Just curious to see what made the list.

― Jonathan (Jonathan), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:08 (twenty years ago) link

no more, Jonathan.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

I doubt Dizzee'd be on the list as an import if they had done the Ten You Haven't Heard list.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

Nah, I disagree -- the Dizzee album's huge. Top ten pazz and jop, I bet. Top 20 at least. Which means (wow, I just thought of this!) it might WIN in 2004, if it carries over enough votes from THIS year....

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:16 (twenty years ago) link

are you serious?! I don't believe it.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:17 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, you sound like me talking about Basement Jaxx, the Avalanches, and Daft Punk two years ago! and they finished 13, 11, and 25, respectively.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

There are plenty of promo copies out there, Michaelangelo. At least there seem to be. And it will get a VERY high point to voter ratio; the people who like it seem to LOVE it, as much as any 2003 album.

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, well, ditto the Avalanches. I still don't think it'll make top 10 and I certainly don't think it will win in '04.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

I can see it do well on Pazz & Jop, but I still think SPIN would have put in the "Top 10 Albums You Haven't Heard" list, since you're talking about PROMO COPIES here.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. I usually think people overpredict these dance-cult things, but I can totally see it finishing higher than, say, the Rapture or Basement Jaxx (and not only because they're not nearly as good, but let's not get into that). Actually, though, the lower it finishes (and it will ABSOLUTELY finish), the MORE chance it has of carrying over its votes to the year of its domestic release.

Avalanches TOTALLY surprised me! I'd barely even heard of them!

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not *predicting* it'll win in '04, mind you; just saying it's a possibility. There are 400 or so more days worth of records to compete with! It just never occured to me that it might have a SHOT at winning that year, and that finishing twice is a foregone conclusion.

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

it will certainly place, just not top 10. I'd be amazed if it did that well. there are just too many people in the midwest (and elsewhere, right) that'll give all their fucking points to Elephant.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

also, what rock were you living under that you'd never heard of the Avalanches?

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

there are just too many people in the midwest (and elsewhere, right) that'll give all their fucking points to Elephant.

because it's a good album that's been released in the midwest?

also, what rock were you living under that you'd never heard of the Avalanches?
yeah, I even knew they sucked by then!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

I bet Outkast will beat Elephant (which could place as low as third, behind Radiohead as well), though.

I heard the NAME Avalanches. Somebody in Canada had pitched me the record. I just assumed it was, like, a popular in Canada thing. I still don't understand what's so great about that album, so maybe that's got something to do with it. But obviously, many disagreed.

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

I figured they were about as important as Dirty Vegas or something!

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:30 (twenty years ago) link

Go play in the traffic, Anthony.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

That's what I'm doing HERE!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

"Simple Man" is the bomb.

I like that Spin's singles list had "No Letting Go" and no "Get Busy" (they're both great, but I like Wayne Wonder's song better).

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:34 (twenty years ago) link

well, considering how BAD most electronic music is, I don't actually blame you, Chuck!

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:35 (twenty years ago) link

I figured they were about as important as Dirty Vegas or something!

That's like saying that Geddy Lee isn't as important a bassist as Quiet Riot's!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:35 (twenty years ago) link

actually it's more like assuming GTR isn't as important as Quiet Riot.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

Me I'm gonna go to a bar and (I'm not making this up) work on updating the pazz&jop letter and list of voters over several Stellas. I've been procrastinating all afternoon, if you couldn't tell.

(By the way, I do think White Stripes DESERVE to beat Outkast and Radiohead -- and *maybe* even beat Dizee Rascal; thats a close one. But what I want to win and what I think will win are two different animals. Of course, most albums that I want to win won't even place.)

And most EVERYTHING music is bad, Michaelangelo. Why should electronic stuff be any different? But I love lots of it, as you know. Or you should.

― chuck, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

my left toenail rocks harder than St. Anger

Don't you have 10 toenails?

― Nick H (Nick H), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

Matos is cloven-hoofed!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:48 (twenty years ago) link

and there's nothing wrong with being a satyr!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:49 (twenty years ago) link

Except the social stigma of satyriasis

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

I know you love lots of it, you fucking freak (sez the guy with one toenail)! I just don't blame you for thinking that off the top, though god knows the Avs' presentation, not to mention the kind of reviews/talk it got, would've indicated otherwise to ME if I hadn't already been aware of what they were doing. I mean, "It sounds like a ravey Paul's Boutique" and "they used 1000 samples" doesn't exactly scream "crap big beat" to me.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

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