The Sundays : C or D

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I ended up digging out "Reading, Writing..." yesterday, because it was driving me crazy trying to figure out exactly what GURL the bloke from Delays sounds like.


Well, when he goes "low" (snort) he sounds like Stevie Nicks!


Yeah, I finally heard the Sundays this year by accident from a radio on Primrose Hill. Then I heard them in a pharmacy in Dupont Circle. Then I heard them in my car on Chapman Highway, and I skreeeeed over to buy the damn cd. They followed me home!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 30 December 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
So how did I forget how well Gavurin pulls off some hero-rock riffs on Blind without ever sounding like a Guitar Center-obsessed goof (see "Goodbye" towards the end and elsewhere).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

You forgot because Harriet is lulling us to sleep? ;)

Seriously, I prefer "R & R & A" – when their shtick was fresher – to Blind.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I must re-listen to Blind sometime...

"A safe, cosy, misty-eyed 'Englishness' that would warm the heart of John Major but leaves me cold." - stevo

I'm not sure I understand these sort of sentiments about RW&A. All that aforementioned kicking of boys until they cry, being sick on one's dress, having thrown up no doubt due to the hideousness of the town, and seemingly just preferring to flee to the lavatory... If that's English for 'cosy' I'll be careful not to visit.

And the aforementioned dissonance and often odd rhythmic structure throughout has almost nothing in common with the supposed strummy whimsy typically ascribed to it.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh God...why don't I have any albums of theirs? I've heard the entirety of Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic and plenty of Blind and Static & Silence and they make my heart ache cathartically. I've also got this b-side of theirs on a CD-R...I think it's called "Nothing Sweet" and it's on the single for "Summertime" and it's soooo ridiculously cute.

"Here's Where the Story Ends" pops up in the weirdest places...I heard it in a Winn-Dixie in Panama City...and in Western Steer steakhouse, which is actually in the same shopping centre as that Winn-Dixie.

one month passes...
my favourite two albums are still readingwritingetc. and static and silence.

i never really got into blind too much, i think i've only ever listened to it less than 10 times the whole way through in my life. i don't really know why, i imagine if i listen to it more, and read the lyrics, i'd like it a lot more.

maybe it's something as superficial as her vocals being too quiet in most songs on Blind, and i always have trouble with songs like that. i like guitars and drums and stuff but i prefer to listen to the singing (and pick out the guitar from the background when i choose to).

ken c (ken c), Saturday, 21 May 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"'Here's Where the Story Ends' pops up in the weirdest places...I heard it in a Winn-Dixie in Panama City...and in Western Steer steakhouse, which is actually in the same shopping centre as that Winn-Dixie."

Maybe this is where they invested their money.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 21 May 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Can I revive this just to say how much I still love them after all these years. I listened to the first two albums back-to-back before work today and was still in awe.

This thread needs a pic:

http://www.ear.fm/Encyclopedia%20S/sundays.gif

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Still love the first album.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

LIstened to Reading, Writing... the other day, actually, and it really took me back to those sepia-toned early 90's.

Are they still a going concern? Not very prolific if so.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm guessing that whole "we're taking time off for our child" thing may still reign...or nobody cares about that sound anymore, and they know it.

http://www.sirensofsong.com/harrietsiren.jpg

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.sundays.de/sunday-band/sundays.jpg

kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeeps.

First album really still is just perfectly right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I never was able to see them live....:( I hope they do SOMETHING again - even if it's just a small "comeback" tour.

kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Listening to "Summertime" by them right now, and it's so gorgeous I could weep.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Oh true love. My Sundays story: I've been in Greece for weeks, moving from one hotel to another without any stereo or CDs or any way to play music, and we're way up north in Thessaloniki where things are less err westernized so all we hear is wailing, grating bouzouki music everywhere we go. One night, out for a drink, we wander into a fancyish cocktail bar and I quickly realize that "Skin & Bones" is playing and I feel like the universe has arranged a treat just for me. Of course when they realize we're all Americans they change to some awful top 40 Celine Dion-style madness and I need to leave quickly so as not to break the enchantment; still, it was very nice.

Laurel, Friday, 11 November 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Reading, Writing and Arithmetic, to my ears, sounded like Cocteau Twins without Robin Guthrie's dreamy guitarscapes, but in their place something ordinary. Perhaps having listened to the Cocteaus before having heard of them ruined them for me.

acb (acb), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

but harriet wheeler has loads more charm than liz fraser. i love the cocteau twins but the effects are almost completely opposite. the sundays as the everyday hero, the cocteau twins as the escapist flirt.

keyth (keyth), Saturday, 12 November 2005 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

classic.

just casting my vote.

andy dale (andy dale), Saturday, 12 November 2005 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link

absolutely classsic debut album. i still think if i'd heard COCTEAU TWINS first it might not have had the impact but still. totally the soundtrack to my firsl love aged 16. i was never a john peel fan as such, so them topping the festive 50 in 89 past me by. no i heard them first on the phillip schofield thuesday night radio 1 show. about as uncool as it gets you'd think, but that show also introduced me to THE THE so go as they say, figure.

piscesboy, Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I love R,W&A and Blind. Another good band in the way of The Sundays are The Innocence Mission

antonio, Sunday, 13 November 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe another album...!?

http://www.phpbbforfree.com/forums/thesundays-about13.html

doubtful, though.

andy dale (andy dale), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Mediocre Sundays (read: most of Static & Silence, and probably anything else they might put out this late in the game) is still a little slice of heaven to my ears, for purely personal and mostly indistinct reasons. Wheeler and Gavurin are just about the most perfectly matched pair in musical history, IMH(and probably not terribly widely-shared)O.

So yeah: very classic, and I'd love to hear another album.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Any Harriet Wheeler sightings? She looks like this, but add a decade and 2 kids. ;)

http://www.sundays.secret-hideout.com/img/harriet01.jpg

Dave M., Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't know the picture was that big. It's filling up my whole screen! Could one of the moderators take it down. Thank you.

Dave M., Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
i can't sleep without listening to that moon landing song these days

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

the sundays are incredible.

the coda, the last four bars, of "hideous towns", are beyond music. they are magic.

the sundays are magic. too good to be true. incredible, etc., etc.

andi, Saturday, 28 July 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yes, "Hideous Towns's" ending is great.

Cunga, Saturday, 28 July 2007 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes.

Bimble, Saturday, 28 July 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

"Hideous Towns" is one of the most perfect songs ever.

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

SO GOOD

Surmounter, Sunday, 29 July 2007 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I listen to my "Goodbye" b/w "Wild Horses" single a lot.

wanko ergo sum, Sunday, 29 July 2007 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i love the five of you.

andi, Sunday, 29 July 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I just love Harriet's lyrics so much - "I joined the army/but it drove me barmy" - who else could sing that so earnestly????

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2007 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Someone who's in Iraq right now? oh wait...

Sorry if this sounds snooty, it's not meant to and I wasn't trying to get political on anyone's ass either. I'm going to pull out Reading, Writing & Arithmetic right now. It's shine has dimmed over time somewhat, but I think a trip down memory lane with it can't be bad.

Bimble, Sunday, 29 July 2007 01:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Also this will sound funny but it always reminds me of the chemistry lab I was in in college. I remember playing it on my walkman in that chemistry lab. It was absolutely stunning, couldn't get the songs out of my head.

Bimble, Sunday, 29 July 2007 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

>I listen to my "Goodbye" b/w "Wild Horses" single a lot

I went through a period last year of listening to Goodbye on repeat play - it would come round on shuffle and then I'd have to hear it several times in a row - by which I mean it's just heartbreakingly fantastic. The final section where Gavurin cuts completely loose and Harriet comes back in with "oh as the heavens shudder baby, I belong to you" makes this into pretty much the best single of the 1990s.

So erm, classic!

Bill A, Sunday, 29 July 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

omg i'm breakin out the cassettes!

i used to imitate professional ice skaters in my basement on roller skates listening to the sundays - ah the life!

Surmounter, Sunday, 29 July 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Reading, Writing and Arithmetic, to my ears, sounded like Cocteau Twins without Robin Guthrie's dreamy guitarscapes, but in their place something ordinary. Perhaps having listened to the Cocteaus before having heard of them ruined them for me.
-- acb (acb), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:24 (1 year ago) Link

OTMFM

stephen, Sunday, 29 July 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

That comparison always strikes me as a bit odd actually. Where is the commonality? Not in the guitars, the singing, the lyrics, the song structures... May as well say "The Sundays, to my ears, sounded like The Bad Seeds without Nick Cave's unholy raving, but in their place something ordinary..."

Better comparison would be The Smiths crossed with Sugarcubes' "Birthday", surely.

Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2007 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

nah, i get the comparison. if liz sang clearly around the time of heaven or las vegas, it'd be a pretty similar thing, i think.

and, what acb said and stephen quoted, i'm about to say this as a sundays obsessive (have their entire discography and about 10 bootlegs), that might be about right. but, that might also be part of what makes them great. but, hm, that's one to chew on.

andi, Sunday, 29 July 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i always loved the Sundays much more than the Cocteau Twins. the performance worked better for me, and i was happy to not have the guitarscapes on Reading, Writing and Arithmetic. easily a favorite album from my youth.

Surmounter, Sunday, 29 July 2007 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i heard sundays before the cocteaus, by the way. if that might matter.

andi, Monday, 30 July 2007 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i think the less lush design of Reading Writing and Arithmetic (sans guitarscapes) made it feel less cluttered and more pure to me. i liked that it wasn't doused in ambient guitar.

Surmounter, Monday, 30 July 2007 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link

my post before my last is silly. replace 'heaven or las vegas' with 'four-calendar', even though the syllables were clearer then, too.

andi, Monday, 30 July 2007 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link

this needs remastering!

and where can u get a cd-quality copy of DON'T TELL YOUR MOTHER in this day and age.

pisces, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link

You can get it in most any dollar bin on the DGC Rarities volume 1 cd.

svend, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Or on Amazon.com for one penny.

svend, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

wow! DGC rarities eh? really? that's genuinely brilliant advice. great stuff thanks!

pisces, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha, dgc rarities is CLASSIC! deserves it's own thread.

andi, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link


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