Once the Inevitable 90s Revival occurs which genre will be the most influetial or popular?

Dearth of electro? In the 90s you had Alter Ego, Jedi Knights, Two Lone Swordsmen, Kerosene, Khan, DJ Hell, Mike Paradinas, etc etc, all of them doing their take on electro. Though I guess you're right that the 00s electro was more about reviving certain parts of 80s electro wholesale, whereas 90s electro was more about building on the foundation of the 80s. (I prefer the 90s style.)

The names you mention were very much underground though.

As in, I mean, there will always be an underground for reviving styles that were popular in the past. Particularly with the net, you can find a revival underground scene for any genre that has ever been popular.

even britpop

Don't know about the others, Tuomas, but I I'd argue that 2LS's '90s stuff wasn't really electro. Obviously there was an influence, same as dub, funk and punk etc but they didn't make a proper electro album till 2000's Tiny Reminders. Same with Mike Paradinas, although granted the Jake Slazenger project could have been interpreted as electro.

oh hey i actually have a real question. what was going on in the 90's that would create/help create the whole german kompakt/microhouse scene/sound? were those guys just listening to minimal detroit techno records in the 90's? were they big idm fans? i think i might have actually answered my own question...

+ several preceding Euro labels e.g. Basic Channel, F Com, Emissions, Ladomat 2000

i'd say Tresor was headed in the very micro-tech kind of direction as well for awhile

I'm trying to work out which record from the 90s will be ripped off the most. I'm thinking Hip Hop Hooray by Naughty by Nature at the moment.

since this thread began i've discovered/rediscovered Credit To The Nation - why weren't this band MUCH bigger than they were? Definitely ahead of their time in the Brit-hop stakes.

Matt DC - I reckon it'll be "Come Baby Come" by K7 - a big dumb party anthem which Djs of the "Boom Shake The Room" variety seem to have slept on.

Come Baby Come will need to appear in a Judd Apatow film first.

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(big, dumb and really really fun, that should say)

Definitely ahead of their time in the Brit-hop stakes.

By sampling Nirvana? hmm

even britpop

Britpop becomes pointless as a retro genre because it was one hundred per cent retro anyway. Even in the mainstream, there is still music that has roughly the same musical roots as Britpop.

tbf i've only heard Call It What You Want (good) and that track he did with Chumbawumba (terrible iirc)

Come on, it is only a matter of time before a grime MC samples Nirvana. Dizzee's people are probably working on it already.

Whither Collapsed Lung?

Actually 'In Bloom' would sound great with I Luv U-style drums and bass bombs.

Incidentally I picked up this week's NME while waiting for a train this morning and they were positively reappraising the Babylon Zoo album. Now I've seen everything.

wait waht

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_CEjQ0vQrM&feature=related

like, really?

The world is still waiting for Styx and Barclay James Harvest to be reappraised.

Using Dalston club nights as a general barometer of emerging hipster tastes - 90s rnb seems to be making a comeback. Ironically of course.

the world can keep waiting

I'm surprised this thread has only just started, hasn't there been 2-step and jungle throwbacks around for a while now? A lot of noisy pavement-ey type bands around too.

Incidentally I picked up this week's NME while waiting for a train this morning and they were positively reappraising the Babylon Zoo album. Now I've seen everything

"They were the MGMT of their day!!"

TBH, they were no Stiltskin.

Jas Mann, now best known for being clowned by Chris Morris.

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Don't know about the others, Tuomas, but I I'd argue that 2LS's '90s stuff wasn't really electro. Obviously there was an influence, same as dub, funk and punk etc but they didn't make a proper electro album till 2000's Tiny Reminders. Same with Mike Paradinas, although granted the Jake Slazenger project could have been interpreted as electro.

Well yeah, maybe 2LS were not the best example, as they've done lots of different stuff, but some of their 90s tunes, like "Black Commandments", sound like electro to me. And the Jake Slazenger material is deinitely. Anyway, my point was that many people were making their version of electro throughout the 90s, all that happened in the 00s was that the sort of electro that was recycling 80s sounds and/or adding vocals to it became popular.

"And the Jake Slazenger material is definitely electro."

hip-hop will get rid of it's DJs, and put mediocre raps on top of electronic beats that were meant for the club. soulless dance music overall will be very popular. what a minute, nevermind...

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hip-hop will get rid of it's DJs

Has already happened, and it was probably hip-hop's wisest move ever. Now it only needs to get some proper producers/songwriters and get rid of the rhythm fixated bunch they are working with now.

Geir Hongro: destroying hip-hop in order to save it.

Get rid of those talking fellas and replace with proper singers

Hip-hop currently has both anyway. What is needed now is for the stuff performed by the singers to sound less like Aretha Franklin and more like The Beatles.

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Hi, I'm passionate about the 90s, and I need to draw the more from it, which is not easy to do either in libraries or internet (it's normal, we're talking about future here), so here is what I know:

Remember Jamieroquai, Bjork, Aphex Twin broadcasted on TV? We'll first get this: It was fuckin' Nu-Jazz, Downtempo and IDM being broadcasted on TV! Now, it's all about simple genres like hip-hop, pop-rock, indie and pop only inspired by some disco, soul and a bit of Dubstep. It's going to change.

PART 1: The Beginning
I've had the chance to follow the whole Hype/Electro/"New French Touch"/"Nu Disco" things going on from the beginning, and as someone passionate about music, trends and sociologie, here's my experience of these things:
1. Around 2003 whether in Hip-Hop, Rock, House or Electronic, things started to slow down in innovation, "violence" and excitement, at least on a mainstream level. The Electroclash tried in a last attempt to create something new by mixing all genres: 2 many Djs, Miss Kittin, Felix played as much hip-hop, new wave, indie, disco and all those easy genres, as they could. But it got boring and it didn't bring anything new to the table, or at least it couldn't get the mainstream people attention because it was only for thirty-something-old and more, and for very few teenagers like me. The only "new" and exiting things were experimental japanese (dj food, rei harakami, tujiko noriko...), lo-fi (prefuse, flying lo, rjd2..), a bit of beautiful nathan fake/holden electronica and maybe some techno/electro (vitalic, the hacker, kiko...)
2. In every parts of the world, some teenagers we're getting bored of this especially when they were the only one in their school to be open minded enough to have listen to west coast as well as grunge/nu-metal and french house (in frence). They we're nostalgic about their early kid/teen years and some "souvenirs" wrapped around it: colored sweat, sneakers, and happy dancing music. They gathered on internet, because they knew how to use boards and napster, and realising their common' passion for french rap, as well as uk rock and of course french-touch (I'm talking about what happened in France), they decided to share music and toughts. Some labels like Institubes and EdBangers gathered around it, and started mixing the new influence from "ailleurs": In US, some booty/bass music djs started to be interested about Dirty South Crunk, some A&R working in scandinavia started to be interested in those new italo-disco and trancy inspired pop-song, and some rock passionate in France started getting their old punk/post-punk/new wave vinyls out, and they all shared it on internet.
3. 2005/6 BAM, the "revolution" was here. Articulated around some blogs like "Fluokids", a new generation of teens that we're bored of the monotomy and morals of the age, mainstream music, and clothes, decided (pushed by all these 80s/around 70s/early 90s nostalgic) to break the barrier: And so were born the iPod Battles, where little white kids with New Era Caps and Fluo shirts compared their mp3 collections in a club where Justice, Surkin, Dj Mehdi were showing their last track, which were a mix of saturated rock bass and techno as well as Dirty South Bass and House.

> From there till now, I followed how the whole trend and its different forms spread through the "sociostyles" and class of people. For me it's like a Pyramid has been erected with it's apogee in 2003. This whole pyramid of people produces ideas, thoughts that evaporates in a cloud hovering above the pyramid. And when enough ideas or thought of the same kinds are accumulated in the cloud it gets concentrated in a trend and it start raining on the pyramid. Of course the higher you are in it, the more sensible and forwardseeing you will be.
And so, from the first geek and musicos on internet who saw it and made it happened, it then interested other passionates of music, then the specialized medias and blogs, then some brands, clubs and medias, then some regular skater or cool peoples, then student, then casuals etc...

I notice an increasing number of sci-fi-bloggers announcing the future Andy Warhol once described (a society where everyone is a celebrity for five minutes). Well, I still don't believe in that. It will not happen. We may be closer to it, but it will never quite happen. There will always be a need for an "elite" - a few talented people that millions and millions adore and look up to. That's the way it's always been, and it'll always be like that. Even though some sci-fi-freaks believe the Net will change it. It will not.

PART 2: The End

Now, I'm fucking pissed about the anoying 80s revival, arrogant pagan teenagers who only know pyramids, easy producable fidget or wobble dubstep, etc. And I think that contrary to the 70/80s revival that happened in a pretty specific time where debauchery, nihilism, easy marketing ideas, and party , this 90s revival will occur in a completely different cycle, whether because of the politic, the art, the spirituality etc...But before coming back on this point, here's is the situation I think

From the main "Blog House" (awful name) which consists in saturated bass, and "Nu Disco" (awful name as well) we have gone far. Hip-hop is boring (Timbaland era finished, Crunk era finished) as well. "Electro", as we originaly and wrongly named it, has first evolved into something more bouncy and powerful, the fidget house, and has the name shows it, it was the first sign that even late teenagers and public getting into electro we're already on the bridge that leads back to house. Wobble dubstep is just the continuation, but is also a bridge closer to Techno and IDM/Electronica.

Opportunist from the Electroclash era are coming back, but in opposition to all the 90s group reforming like Skunk Anansie, they go further. Now every casual people, whether students or "beauf" (coach potatoes, guidos etc...) listen to electro, in it's official form (EdBanger), it's pop form ("Nu Disco" and Pop band/artist such as MGMT, La Roux, maybe-upcoming Little Boots) and even horrible form: David Guetta feat Kid Cudi, Black Eyed Pease, Akon...and that's were I can see the difference with a sometime dumb but way more talented artist like Kanye West.

And as we all now, when the mainstream public has put it's grasp on something, it means that this thing is already dead.

PART 3: The 90s revival - This guy is certainly crazy
But as a sensible guy, even if i'm a bachelor in Business and Politic, I forecast my thought according to what I feel is going to be the next thing, not in term of material element or themes like specific music, clothes, but more than that: I see a connexion between politics, economics, psychology, art etc...

We always picture the 90s, at least when you're young, as an happy and naive decade, where you could wear awful dresses, listen to awful garage, and think it's stylish. But the happy years we're those that just passed, the 2000s decade, because if get back in time a little bit, the 90s were horrible. What is it with all those apocaliptic movie, nuclear green colors ? What with all the riots and burning car images? What about the "No Future" slogan? What about the intriguing word "New Age", the dressing like a vampire/goth trend, and the many fucking collective suicides? What about the "technocrates" and "technogoth" and those people focused on technology, the future, and not at all in an utopic sunny way, but more of "apocalyptic/resistance" way. What about these "psychologic" and fuck the world, my boss, the office movies (trainspotting, fight club, american psycho...) ? What about the first conspirationnists ?

Yes, you're starting to get it. What's the ton of color from most of the movies/pictures/clips? Blue, Green, cold colors. Sometimes some shy and drab crimson.

For me the 90s isn't about the cliche we've all get around, dance music, naive TV shows or movies, but it's something more subtle, dark, blurred...

In term of music, all the genre from the 90s are coming and you can trust me on this one: Maybe it will start with some recent things from the early 00s like Lo-fi and Electronica (wrongly labeled melodic dubstep) and some bad Minimal Techno, but pretty soon it will get down to the most profound discoveries we can found: Leftfield and experimental, nu-jazz and some old soundtrack jazzey songs or New Age singing, Deep Techno and House, Uk Garage, the big nu-metal come back, downtempo, and the new generation of Hip-Hop..

From what I know, one of the biggest genres coming back in art is the "Lowbrow" aka Pop-Surrealism, some Steam Punk, but I don't really know more then that

And that's where it's you turn to share.

tl;sb

arrogant pagan teenagers who only know pyramids

wkiw

Sooner or later normal dudes and gals who listen to Unwound will stop being so self aware about their image and how they can work Afro-beat into their brand of messy Brooklyn Animal Collective, MGMT, MIA, or Grizzly Bear aping, and will just wear shirts and jeans that fit and write songs that aren't overstuffed and will sing without forcing themselves to sound over the top in some awful way.

And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.

omg this thread

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I meant a substantial movement in rejection of those stupid trends.

Sooner or later normal dudes and gals who listen to Unwound will stop being so self aware about their image and how they can work Afro-beat into their brand of messy Brooklyn Animal Collective, MGMT, MIA, or Grizzly Bear aping, and will just wear shirts and jeans that fit and write songs that aren't overstuffed and will sing without forcing themselves to sound over the top in some awful way.

Your comment is rather reactionary.