Once the Inevitable 90s Revival occurs which genre will be the most influetial or popular?

Jimmy Sommerville, for starters. Unlike Boy George, he even sung about it.

who the fuck is Jimmy Sommerville you crazy robot

(bronski beat, communards)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronski_Beat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communards

never heard of them, sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mlpxOaQinE

.... Really?

hey what does "crusty" mean in the UK again?

like in the U.S. it's stinky punx that have tattoos on their faces and listen to bands that sound like inept slayer recorded in a 7-11 bathroom

but in the UK it's like techno music that wants to be Weather Report and everyone has dreads and shit?

As for The Communards, they weren't really all that large in the US. Probably because the lyrics were still considered controversial in the Reagan-era.

Erasure I believe also had some US hits though, and Andy Bell was never afraid to talk about his orientation.

Soft Cell and Pet Shop Boys were definitely huge, but I am not sure whether Neil Tennant and Marc Almond were really "out" back then.

kinda. but here it was linked with a "new age traveller" movement and interloped with several musical genres not just rave-based techno. it got a lot of media coverage between 92 and 96 but did seem to fade into obscurity post nu-Labour. xp

xp: IIRC neither was (Almond, Tennant; also calling Tennant a "heartthrob" is generous at best) (okay it is batshit crazy)

Erasure had 2 top 20 hits in 1988 in the US; their profile here was nothing like their profile in Europe.

it just makes me think of shite like carter usm and the levellers. so please dont let shite like this ever make a comeback.
xp

aw, good old Carter

they were terrible in exactly the right way IMO

its sad he was an unstoppable sex machine

A Grebo revival is def not needed.

xpln the connection btween christina and queerness???

for a while, she dressed and acted like a super tacky drag queen

no it's just that all the super tacky drag queens were acting like Xtina

http://images.google.com/images?q=christina%20aguilera%20dee%20snider&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

(this is the time period I am thinking of)

can't believe they ripped off her style like that, worse than roisin stealing lady gaga's clothes and travelling back in time imo

um, the "beautiful" video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZjr0heZNIw

Also worth pointing out the various climate camps, protests through the City of London, anti-war marches etc that have gone on very regularly and dead set in the centre of the media glare recently. Although the musical soundtrack to this often appears to be psytrance or boshing drum and bass.

the nineties evidently never went away for some

Which is why a 90s revival cannot happen shortly. The 90s will at first have to be the definition of uncool before they can be revived.

Tell me about it, my wife is still looking for those Galliano tapes that I fed to the dog. xp

In order to save the 90s, we have to destroy the 90s

xpost

RSPCA case imo

Yeah, but I doubt they'll be able to re-home her what with the kids and everything.

There's an article in today's G2 about how the dole queue went from "a badge of failure, to one of punk pride and back again".

It seems that at a certain point in history there was a certain romance behind not wanting to conform to getting a day job, wearing a tie, pandering to the man etc.

I think a lot of people, mostly kids from middle class backgrounds I can imagine, became disgusted by the '80s yuppie mentality and Thatcher-era notions of conformity; becoming caught up in grassroots activism, anti-capitalist movements and squatter culture. This is a vein that goes back as far as the fifties, through the hippie movement, and was at its most explicit in punk music (Crass, The Slits, UB40(!))

I suppose back then they considered themselves heroic in a way, but these days it might be considered less so, even villainous to actively withdraw from day-to-day society by contributing as little as possible.

I think it's cos employment mostly sucks but they've made signing on an even bigger pain in the balls tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twZz76Li-8M

but aren't all the "hey remember saved by the bell etc" lols symptomatic of the so-bad-its-good-isms that are the harbinger of revivals

Symptomatic of 19 year olds iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQamw4xxxHY

Symptomatic of 19 year olds iirc

― Allbran Burg (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:46 AM (20 minutes ago)

exactly tho, these revivals are mainly propelled by the romanticisation of an era by a gen. who half missed it.

xposts you could be right, noodle

i think that general attitudes have changed quite a bit though. part of me wonders if it's a personal thing, i.e. the fact i've grown up and got a job and am now thinking about things like how the economy actually works and a belief that people should contribute to society for it to work. then again, i really don't think the average young person wants to bring down the system any more.

teenagers don't aspire to withdrawing from capitalist society any more. it's seen as a cliche. you don't see the characters on skins concerning themselves over such trivialities as "world issues" etc - it seems they have so much inner turmoil already that the wider world is a false cause. the only people in that show who do seem to show off the punk spirit are the parents, for instance Naomi's mother who lives in a communal house, and is portrayed as highly insensitive to her own surroundings and is generally greeted with a despairing rolling of the eyes by the younger characters.

Never underestimate the extent to which aging warps yr opinions, but yeah I think we're living in responsible, post-history times when not aspiring to be a good worker/consumer and contribute to the accelerating annihilation of human beings is looked on as being a lot more oddball than it was 30 years ago.

but please let's kill of that urgh-word Punk, which was always way more about the new narcissism than it was about revololution

these days it might be considered less so, even villainous to actively withdraw from day-to-day society by contributing as little as possible.

Welcome to the 1950s

teenagers don't aspire to withdrawing from capitalist society any more. it's seen as a cliche. you don't see the characters on skins concerning themselves over such trivialities as "world issues" etc

that's possibly not the best source for kidz related knowledge, though granted it's better than having brian eno as yr youth affairs tsar or whatever

but please let's kill of that urgh-word Punk, which was always way more about the new narcissism

Hence "I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair"

Revolution of the Mind, man

No gesture so radical as etc etc iirc

Think withdrawing from capitalist society has always been somewhere near the bottom of most teenagers' priority lists to be honest.

Depends what you mean by "withdrawal"

Not getting a job has been popular in the past

when i was 14 i had a phase of wanting to join the travellers. for the travelling.

Circuses out of favour by then