Once the Inevitable 90s Revival occurs which genre will be the most influetial or popular?

Dodgy and Ocean Colour Scene. When the Powerpop revolution happens :)

Can I be first against the wall, please?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IZsuFLnZYTA/SsoyUbOQaCI/AAAAAAAAA2Q/ktPSyg0C-KU/s400/CocoKilling.jpg

I've only got the vaguest memory of seeing a Local H video, but they seem to have the sort of diehard cult reccomending them that works out well in the long run.

The truth is, I thought it mattered - I thought that music mattered. But does it? Bollocks! Not compared to how people matter.

I'd like to see the revival of post-golden age sampledelic hip-hop. Influencing all music you can think of!

In fact that refers more to Bomb Squad/Dust Bros/Prince Paul. Either way it's one of the last major 80s movements not to be revived yet.

think that's because the cost of doing it legally became prohibitively expensive after that Gilbert O'Sullivan/Biz Markie case??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wb0Xz7Rp6A
This comeback single kind of bombed, so the world is at least not yet ready for the return of the mighty 2 Unlimited.

People like Haddaway and Dr. Alban are doing pretty good on the nostalgia circuit though, there was recently some sort of "back to the 90s" Eurodance tour where they performed, and at least in Helsinki they had a house full of thirtysomethings dancing to the music of their youth.

Some of the stuff from the Fool's Gold label (mostly, Kingdom) has been really strongly embracing that diva-house sound made popular by 2 Unlimited and (the eternal) La Bouche, so there's that as well.

Still, even if there's gonna be a proper Eurodance revival, I find hard to imagine it would be based on anything else than the nostalgia/novelty value of the music. Can't imagine anything hip and new being built on that foundation. (Though those who were teenagers in the 80s probably thought the same about the lipstick pop of their youth, before the 80s revival happened.)

Also, hits like Day N Nite bring back another 90s phenomenon where rappers who shot to fame on the back of a huge dance hit desperately try to build their 'proper' rap career. I still have some solo Turbo B and Ray Slijngaard tracks somewhere I think.

Still, even if there's gonna be a proper Eurodance revival, I find hard to imagine it would be based on anything else than the nostalgia/novelty value of the music. Can't imagine anything hip and new being built on that foundation.

That is true. Any revival of something old will first and foremost be driven by new generations of fans who have found something valuable in the music of old. It was the case of the late70s/early 80s rockabilly revival, it was the case of the Paisley Underground, it was the case of Britpop, it was the case of the early 00s postpunk revival, and it is the case of today's 80s/electro revival.

And probably true regarding Eurodance too. After all, it isn't exactly Samantha Fox and Sabrina who have been revived from the 80s.

Messy Zappa/Beefheart-inspired artrock - was this a thing? dEUS and that Belgian scene for sure, also The Beta Band. It might be possible to shoehorn Gomez in as well, though they were a bit too straightahead.

and shit

(sorry LJ)

they had their moments but I'm not so into 'em as I was

Agreed Gomez were mostly shit - just trying to find support for something I think was in the air (there were also a bunch of Irish bands in this vein that nobody has heard of) but can't cite many definite examples of...

there's crossover with pet LJ thread Unknown, vaguely Cardiacsy prog-pop that only MaresNest and I actually like here for sure - although maybe you're wanting things that are more messy and less jazzy, so Camp Blackfoot are probably out

who else fancied a larkabout...hmm...

someone needs to assume the earl brutus torch

Hipsters are still in 80s revival mode so if the 90s are to become fashionable this year i think it will be from elsewhere.
What decade do american idol/x factor entrants take their songs from mostly?

For the 90s to be revived, it would take the 90s styles to actually become unfashionable at first. The 90s are still around in music, and even more so in fashion. As long as they are, it's hard to see them revived. You cannot revive something that is already largely still around.

Indie music and the suburbs need to reunite. It takes more effort to be unique in Brooklyn, therefore this overcompensation of hipness happens, and you get lots of over-artsy bands that are trying really hard to stand out. Suburban bands don't usually seem like they have the same kind of pressure, and you get music that feels a bit more natural. Just a theory.

Oh and it ties in because lots of 90s bands had a more suburban vibe to me.

everyone keeps mentioning samples being expensive and undoable, but what about when you're just releasing youtube videos and freedownload-able mp3's? this is a plausible venue for 90's-style sampling to come back in a big way, after being fairly verboten for the last decade, yes?

+, we should maybe put this in the context of 90's revivalism vs. 00's revivalism - in the 90's, there was definitely a large amount of influence from the 70's, but it mostly seemed to take the form of sampling, ie. bit's n pieces of actual 70's records being twisted and manipulated into something completely new. whereas in the 00's, aping the actual the sound and style of the 80's quite closely seemed to be the means of revivalism... i mean, outside of rap from 99-04 or so, a lot of the last decade just seemed more backwards looking compared to the 90s (grunge not included i guess) anyway maybe the 10's will be a bit more progressive and innovative again, bringing back the 90's with a more unexpected twists and turns than the whole 80's-are-cool-again zeitgeist of the 00's?

that's kind of a hugely reductive view of the 2000s, yeah?

Indie music and the suburbs need to reunite.

This is happening already -- see: Real Estate, Titus Andronicus, most bands on Underwater Peoples.

that's kind of a hugely reductive view of the 2000s, yeah?

well, at least it's a whole paragraph! i'd have gone into greater depth with a 64 page thesis but i was late to band practice ;P but i think the overall sentiment is sound if not unassailable

everyone keeps mentioning samples being expensive and undoable, but what about when you're just releasing youtube videos and freedownload-able mp3's? this is a plausible venue for 90's-style sampling to come back in a big way, after being fairly verboten for the last decade, yes?

for example:

http://thru-you.com/#/videos/

let's embed that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tprMEs-zfQA&feature=channel

re samples : the cost implications never stopped girl talk.

for small underground releases, i dont think there is the quite the same level of intensity to track down perps of this type of music as it was back in the heyday of sample it, loop it fuck it

then again, like sonny j (emis attempt at launching upbeat sample based dance pop a few years ago that fell flat on its arse), you could just "recreate" the samples

Indie music and the suburbs need to reunite.
This is happening already -- see: Real Estate, Titus Andronicus, most bands on Underwater Peoples.

― larry_fitzmaurice, Monday, March 22, 2010 1:13 AM (6 hours ago)

Yeah! I love Real Estate. Hopefully the trend continues.

I get the feeling that when Hip Hop was at its commercial peak, say 95-05, backing off on the samples was part of being a team playa in the music industry.

er yeah, from puff daddy to kanye...

I don't know if it's been mentioned already but haven't the 90s kinda been revived through the euro ravey synths used in hiphop rnb over the last years ?
these synths are definitely 90s signifiers for me, just like some other synths (new order's for instance) or drums sounds (prince's) are 80s signifiers

everyone keeps mentioning samples being expensive and undoable, but what about when you're just releasing youtube videos and freedownload-able mp3's? this is a plausible venue for 90's-style sampling to come back in a big way, after being fairly verboten for the last decade, yes?

If you are speaking of the underground, yes. A Youtube/mp3 phenomenon may never cross over beyond the underground.
And there are underground scenes devoted to just about every style and genre since the beginning of time already. I suppose a 90s revival is thought of as a somewhat more mainstream thing though.

I don't know if it's been mentioned already but haven't the 90s kinda been revived through the euro ravey synths used in hiphop rnb over the last years ?
these synths are definitely 90s signifiers for me, just like some other synths (new order's for instance) or drums sounds (prince's) are 80s signifiers

I guess some of those electro/R&B hits are actually borrowing elements both from the 80s and from 90s rave/dance and putting them together.

Seems like a weird time to be asking this question. Cultural reappraisal happens so quickly now that in my opinion the 90s revival is years old already - at least in the underground.

In dance music, the 90s revival started around 2007 with the death of minimal and the revival of deep house and 'real' techno, along with all the heavy-handed signifiers of 'realness' that go with it. Dubstep from the start has also been arguably a revival of certain 90s values - see Dissenus, the 'nuum (sigh) etc. Elsewhere, shoegaze is arguably one of the big underground influences of the mid-late 00s. People were citing that stuff as far back as 2003/2004.

As for an answer to the thread title: for some reason I can see the Industrial and EBM of both the 80s and 90s varieties making a comeback. The later parts of that scene may take a while, as they've been so deeply unfashionable for so long but there's already plenty of rumblings about the early stuff. See Xeno & Oaklander (lol, hardly mainstream but whatever) citing Front 242 as a big influence. It just seems to flow neatly out of the currently growing hipster minimal wave obsession.

00s revival only minutes away

The Industrial/EBM revival is already in place to some extent, with "rock" bands such as Muse, Franz Ferdinand and Kent adding lots of synths to their otherwise still very "rock" style.

front 242 still going strong.

this has just been released :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=dPInPCw4h-o

That's not much different from how Paul Weller was still around releasing albums during the Britpop age, for instance.

Geir, I normally understand your posts, if not necessarily agree with them, but comparing Front242 with Kent is a new level of o_O

incidentally, i'm quite interested in an industrial revival. the 00s have been the most polite and restrained decade since punk broke, and i'd like to see a return to the anti-fashion anti-PC shock and awe of bands like Ministry, Ultraviolence, Napalm Death, Throbbing Gristle et al.

I guess some of those electro/R&B hits are actually borrowing elements both from the 80s and from 90s rave/dance and putting them together.

true. in some cases.
but for instance, I have rihanna's "please don't stop the music" in mind right now and it's clearly 100% 90s, no ?(except the samba makossa part, of course !)

not hearing anything particularly 90s to that. take out the sample and it's too thin/based on flat/surface synth tones, which gives it something in common with some late 90s trance pop but what else?

well you have the filter disco thing too (very 90s french touch).
and 4/4 dance drums that are also very 90s to me.

but for instance, I have rihanna's "please don't stop the music" in mind right now and it's clearly 100% 90s, no ?

Those straight unsyncopated 120BPM 4/4 beats sound very 80s to me. A typical 90s style would be either breakbeats or 135-140 PBM trance, no?

all bands are gonna sound like Polvo

i'm hoping for cathy dennis.

or more shoegaze.