Once the Inevitable 90s Revival occurs which genre will be the most influetial or popular?

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grady "cougar" mellencamp (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

No doubt someone who grew up in the 90s will be along to say they remember that cover from TOTP's and how they think it's much better than the original.

I wonder what other 90s songs could be covered by shitty europop bands if there was a revival.

Losing My Religion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5S5OeZIThE

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

^much worse starting point imo

grady "cougar" mellencamp (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

oh shit i just realised, those Creed big hits would be perfect fodder for those american idol wannabe-diva's

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

that's where the revival will begin

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

Which 90's songs are ripe for cover version on American Idol or for shitty europop revival.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

There's a visceral feel - that wigged-out, nihilistic, raging, don't-give-a-fuck sort of attitude- the kind people only hear these days when they remember to put on "In Utero", that's just not happening in recent rock. Compare emo/crabcore's namby pamby black-dye teen dramas with the music of bands like Ministry, Lawnmower Death fuck it- even Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains seem light years ahead in the credibility stakes.

What's strange is that the second we seem to put that angry grunge thing to bed finally it's ready for some sort of revival, or a return to its original form. Nickelback, Puddle of Mud, and so much nu-metal was really just the residue of all that, and that hasn't even completely died.

I will get on my hands and knees and beg the hipsters not to bring certain trends from the 90s back.

Cunga, Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

You might be able to stop hipsters but you cant fight the ordinary guy in the street getting nostalgic for his youth.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

xp I think the point being made is that 2000s post-grunge ISN'T angry and visceral the way OG grunge was.

grady "cougar" mellencamp (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:31 (sixteen years ago)

the second wave of emo was the 90s so with the 3rd wave still existing the 90s is definitely influencing stuff just now.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

Acts such as My Chemical Romance are arguably reviving grunge more than they are reviving 90s EMO/Goth.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 20 March 2010 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

And maybe the orchestral hit will make a comeback.

― MarkoP, Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:39 PM Bookmark

Yes! I think this is very very likely.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 21 March 2010 04:39 (sixteen years ago)

You might be able to stop hipsters but you cant fight the ordinary guy in the street getting nostalgic for his youth.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:30 PM (Yesterday)

I like a lot of 90s bands because they seem like they are actually made by ordinary guys, NOT hipsters. Thats the most refreshing thing about it.

Evan, Sunday, 21 March 2010 05:24 (sixteen years ago)

This question probably belongs on a different thread, but was there really much of a 60s revival in the 80s? I sure don't remember it that way. The first thing that comes to mind along those lines is the 60ish iconography in rave--but musically?

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 21 March 2010 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

We're trying too hard to find patterns here I think...

Evan, Sunday, 21 March 2010 05:33 (sixteen years ago)

paisley underground
also velvet underground were very influential on "college rock" in the 80s
you could argue how popular this stuff really was but it was definitely a thing
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The 19 Most Obvious Sockpuppets of the Decade (velko), Sunday, 21 March 2010 05:38 (sixteen years ago)

Ah, yeah, I did forget the Velvet Underground, probably because they were so new to me in the 80s.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 21 March 2010 05:48 (sixteen years ago)

This question probably belongs on a different thread, but was there really much of a 60s revival in the 80s?

Besides the Paisley Underground, there was also a very evident Motown revival, a lot of songs influenced by "You Can't Hurry Love"'s beat.
There were also the likes of Shakin' Stevens and Stray Cats, although that was probably more of a 50s revival than a 60s one.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 21 March 2010 10:37 (sixteen years ago)

the 90's were a great, great time for tuneful guitar-based experimentation - so if anything comes back I'm hoping it's the massive stack of FX pedals

and maybe lo-fi fuckery - heaven knows we need more rough'n'ready soundworlds

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Sunday, 21 March 2010 10:57 (sixteen years ago)

Yes! Exactly. Absolutely. 100%

Evan, Sunday, 21 March 2010 15:30 (sixteen years ago)

Except about the lo-fi. Lets have the lo-fi fuckery ultimately support the songs, instead of it being a tool to make your so-so material hipper by drowning it. Too many recent lo-fi acts are putting way too much emphasis on lo-fi for style sake, without letting it just create an atmosphere.

Evan, Sunday, 21 March 2010 15:35 (sixteen years ago)

^^^yes, by 'fuckery' i mean meddling about with form via content, not defining the form through a set aesthetic

am currently rocking hood's 'rustic houses, forlorn valleys' on repeat and wondering why so few albums these days have such space, invention, wonder...

i mean, music in the past 10 years has been all sorts of wonderful but there's a certain kind of wide-eyed, sprawling artistic vision that's been lost a little. albums don't sound like they were conjured out of thin air any more, so much

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Sunday, 21 March 2010 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

"This question probably belongs on a different thread, but was there really much of a 60s revival in the 80s?"

there was Doors-mania! and the dead got even bigger. bigger than they had been at the tail-end of the 70's. and bands like sonic youth were all about the whole deathtrip manson 60's sike thing. and there was a big garage rock underground with the lyres and a zillion others. and the whole jangle rock explosion of Byrds-worship. and brix smith was singing about edie and my favorite band felt wished that they lived in a warhol movie and i could go on and on forever....

scott seward, Sunday, 21 March 2010 15:55 (sixteen years ago)

Kind of feel like we're about one or two years into a pretty big '90s revival with indie-rock, no? Also, ditto with UK electronic music -- if Zomby's 'Where Were U in '92' was any more '90s, it'd be the soundtrack to 'Blossom.'

larry_fitzmaurice, Sunday, 21 March 2010 16:00 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, whats interesting about decade revivals is the artists who move to the forefront as the reassessment goes on. Like the Velvets and Byrds weren't front line bands in the sixties. But there was no point in reassessing the Beatles or Stones, since their presence was still very much felt in pop. Likewise, it would have been hard to predict Gang of Four's rep rising to the top ten years ago with the post punk revival, but there certainly was no point in re-thinking U2, despite these kind of post-punk credentials

http://www.discogs.com/Jah-Wobble--Edge-The--Holger-Czukay-Snake-Charmer/release/31585

bendy, Sunday, 21 March 2010 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

On that tip, which 90s also-rans might move forward when the decade gets reassessed? What's the ingredients: a fairly hefty body of work, little commercial success, and some kind of unique selling point?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 March 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

Dodgy and Ocean Colour Scene. When the Powerpop revolution happens :)

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 21 March 2010 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

Can I be first against the wall, please?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 21 March 2010 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IZsuFLnZYTA/SsoyUbOQaCI/AAAAAAAAA2Q/ktPSyg0C-KU/s400/CocoKilling.jpg

scott seward, Sunday, 21 March 2010 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

I've only got the vaguest memory of seeing a Local H video, but they seem to have the sort of diehard cult reccomending them that works out well in the long run.

bendy, Sunday, 21 March 2010 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

The truth is, I thought it mattered - I thought that music mattered. But does it? Bollocks! Not compared to how people matter.

Armchair Crab (staggerlee), Sunday, 21 March 2010 19:20 (sixteen years ago)

I'd like to see the revival of post-golden age sampledelic hip-hop. Influencing all music you can think of!

Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

In fact that refers more to Bomb Squad/Dust Bros/Prince Paul. Either way it's one of the last major 80s movements not to be revived yet.

Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

think that's because the cost of doing it legally became prohibitively expensive after that Gilbert O'Sullivan/Biz Markie case??

Cankle My Appointments (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wb0Xz7Rp6A
This comeback single kind of bombed, so the world is at least not yet ready for the return of the mighty 2 Unlimited.

Siegbran, Sunday, 21 March 2010 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

People like Haddaway and Dr. Alban are doing pretty good on the nostalgia circuit though, there was recently some sort of "back to the 90s" Eurodance tour where they performed, and at least in Helsinki they had a house full of thirtysomethings dancing to the music of their youth.

Tuomas, Sunday, 21 March 2010 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

Some of the stuff from the Fool's Gold label (mostly, Kingdom) has been really strongly embracing that diva-house sound made popular by 2 Unlimited and (the eternal) La Bouche, so there's that as well.

larry_fitzmaurice, Sunday, 21 March 2010 22:36 (sixteen years ago)

Still, even if there's gonna be a proper Eurodance revival, I find hard to imagine it would be based on anything else than the nostalgia/novelty value of the music. Can't imagine anything hip and new being built on that foundation. (Though those who were teenagers in the 80s probably thought the same about the lipstick pop of their youth, before the 80s revival happened.)

Tuomas, Sunday, 21 March 2010 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

Also, hits like Day N Nite bring back another 90s phenomenon where rappers who shot to fame on the back of a huge dance hit desperately try to build their 'proper' rap career. I still have some solo Turbo B and Ray Slijngaard tracks somewhere I think.

Siegbran, Sunday, 21 March 2010 23:07 (sixteen years ago)

Still, even if there's gonna be a proper Eurodance revival, I find hard to imagine it would be based on anything else than the nostalgia/novelty value of the music. Can't imagine anything hip and new being built on that foundation.

That is true. Any revival of something old will first and foremost be driven by new generations of fans who have found something valuable in the music of old. It was the case of the late70s/early 80s rockabilly revival, it was the case of the Paisley Underground, it was the case of Britpop, it was the case of the early 00s postpunk revival, and it is the case of today's 80s/electro revival.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 21 March 2010 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

And probably true regarding Eurodance too. After all, it isn't exactly Samantha Fox and Sabrina who have been revived from the 80s.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 21 March 2010 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

Messy Zappa/Beefheart-inspired artrock - was this a thing? dEUS and that Belgian scene for sure, also The Beta Band. It might be possible to shoehorn Gomez in as well, though they were a bit too straightahead.

seandalai, Monday, 22 March 2010 00:44 (sixteen years ago)

and shit

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 22 March 2010 00:46 (sixteen years ago)

(sorry LJ)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 22 March 2010 00:47 (sixteen years ago)

they had their moments but I'm not so into 'em as I was

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Monday, 22 March 2010 00:50 (sixteen years ago)

Agreed Gomez were mostly shit - just trying to find support for something I think was in the air (there were also a bunch of Irish bands in this vein that nobody has heard of) but can't cite many definite examples of...

seandalai, Monday, 22 March 2010 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

there's crossover with pet LJ thread Unknown, vaguely Cardiacsy prog-pop that only MaresNest and I actually like here for sure - although maybe you're wanting things that are more messy and less jazzy, so Camp Blackfoot are probably out

who else fancied a larkabout...hmm...

someone needs to assume the earl brutus torch

LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Monday, 22 March 2010 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

Hipsters are still in 80s revival mode so if the 90s are to become fashionable this year i think it will be from elsewhere.
What decade do american idol/x factor entrants take their songs from mostly?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 22 March 2010 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

For the 90s to be revived, it would take the 90s styles to actually become unfashionable at first. The 90s are still around in music, and even more so in fashion. As long as they are, it's hard to see them revived. You cannot revive something that is already largely still around.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 22 March 2010 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

Indie music and the suburbs need to reunite. It takes more effort to be unique in Brooklyn, therefore this overcompensation of hipness happens, and you get lots of over-artsy bands that are trying really hard to stand out. Suburban bands don't usually seem like they have the same kind of pressure, and you get music that feels a bit more natural. Just a theory.

Evan, Monday, 22 March 2010 02:52 (sixteen years ago)


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